Daniel F'n Bryan
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Dec 15, 2011 8:38:20 GMT -5
So basically I was thinking about Bret and had he not left what would have happend. But honestly I really dont see Bret fitting in to the WWF from 98 on. I dont quite know why but i felt like the product was so different and that he wouldnt belong there. I would have loved for him to stay but I just dont see where he could have gone from the end of 97 on. Anybody else feel this way?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2011 13:34:34 GMT -5
we just had a topic on this about a month ago man and nobody knew then either ;D
basically......its way too hard to picture because of what we witnessed in 98.without the screwjob there would have been no Mr McMahon character.....and no feud with Austin.
honestly I feel WWF:98 would have been totally different with Bret.
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Post by mikey1974 on Dec 15, 2011 17:05:10 GMT -5
i really think it would've been Bret vs Austin at WM14,this time with the title on the line...
sadly,though,Bret was not a fan of the edgier WWF stuff,and openly talked about how it was becoming garbage and such,so i don't see him fitting in at all with the Attitude Era....
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Post by kerowack on Dec 15, 2011 17:48:35 GMT -5
It worked out well for the WWE and Bret was able to disappear into the WCW with his money....
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Dec 15, 2011 18:32:07 GMT -5
I mean things definitely would have turned out different in my opinion. But, who could blame Bret for running away with the money at the time.
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Dec 16, 2011 6:33:00 GMT -5
we just had a topic on this about a month ago man and nobody knew then either ;D basically......its way too hard to picture because of what we witnessed in 98.without the screwjob there would have been no Mr McMahon character.....and no feud with Austin. honestly I feel WWF:98 would have been totally different with Bret. My bad for bringing up the topic again. Honestly though I dont understand where they were planning to go with the whole DX/Hart Foundation thing. You have two heel factions going against each other in the top fued of the company. They said the plan was to always keep DX heel and I dont see how a face Hart Foundation would have worked. It could have gone so many ways. Without the MSJ and Michaels breaking his back who knows where the WWE would be today. Lol maybe one day somebody will pull a stewie griffin and go back and change it lol i can dream right? |
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 16, 2011 6:46:43 GMT -5
Maybe he had a crush on Sunny and that was why Bret hard
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2011 10:15:10 GMT -5
we just had a topic on this about a month ago man and nobody knew then either ;D basically......its way too hard to picture because of what we witnessed in 98.without the screwjob there would have been no Mr McMahon character.....and no feud with Austin. honestly I feel WWF:98 would have been totally different with Bret. My bad for bringing up the topic again. Honestly though I dont understand where they were planning to go with the whole DX/Hart Foundation thing. You have two heel factions going against each other in the top fued of the company. They said the plan was to always keep DX heel and I dont see how a face Hart Foundation would have worked. It could have gone so many ways. Without the MSJ and Michaels breaking his back who knows where the WWE would be today. Lol maybe one day somebody will pull a stewie griffin and go back and change it lol i can dream right? the New Age Outlaws said in their shoot that they were told in Feb 98 they were joining DX shortly after WM and that that the group would be going face shortly after due to favorable reactions when not interacting with Austin. and dont worry about bringing this up again-its a great topic. |
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Dec 16, 2011 13:33:27 GMT -5
i think bret would have fit in fine. He's said he had is best matches in that 97 era. Bret siding with Vince to go after Austin or something like that would have been cool
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Post by Himmy! on Dec 16, 2011 16:02:32 GMT -5
we just had a topic on this about a month ago man and nobody knew then either ;D basically......its way too hard to picture because of what we witnessed in 98.without the screwjob there would have been no Mr McMahon character.....and no feud with Austin. honestly I feel WWF:98 would have been totally different with Bret.I agree man, other than his anti-USA stuff, I really don't think Bret fitted in the attitude era so much. |
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Dec 17, 2011 9:39:19 GMT -5
My bad for bringing up the topic again. Honestly though I dont understand where they were planning to go with the whole DX/Hart Foundation thing. You have two heel factions going against each other in the top fued of the company. They said the plan was to always keep DX heel and I dont see how a face Hart Foundation would have worked. It could have gone so many ways. Without the MSJ and Michaels breaking his back who knows where the WWE would be today. Lol maybe one day somebody will pull a stewie griffin and go back and change it lol i can dream right? the New Age Outlaws said in their shoot that they were told in Feb 98 they were joining DX shortly after WM and that that the group would be going face shortly after due to favorable reactions when not interacting with Austin. and dont worry about bringing this up again-its a great topic. Hmm I could have swore I've always heard the opposite but if they said that i guess its true. And to whoever said that the Mr. McMahon character was caused by the MSJ incident I would have to disagree. The roots of the Mr. McMahon character was his feud with Austin for sure, MSJ just furthered that. So I still think we would have seen The corporation possibly with Bret in Rocks position and things like that. |
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Dec 18, 2011 16:32:31 GMT -5
Anything had to be better than him in WCW.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2011 5:59:09 GMT -5
the New Age Outlaws said in their shoot that they were told in Feb 98 they were joining DX shortly after WM and that that the group would be going face shortly after due to favorable reactions when not interacting with Austin. and dont worry about bringing this up again-its a great topic. Hmm I could have swore I've always heard the opposite but if they said that i guess its true. And to whoever said that the Mr. McMahon character was caused by the MSJ incident I would have to disagree. The roots of the Mr. McMahon character was his feud with Austin for sure, MSJ just furthered that. So I still think we would have seen The corporation possibly with Bret in Rocks position and things like that. that was me.and without Montreal the Mr McMahon character wouldnt have taken off.he was still trying to be the good guy in his interactions with Austin pre SS97. after SS97 Vince was convinced he was gonna be the "face" of the situation and viewed with sympathy.Cornette Vince and Dunne were taken off guard by the negative response post SS97 and just channeled it into the Austin feud. the McMahon/austin feud would never have had the same heat without SS97 fuelling fan reaction to Vinnie IMO. |
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Post by IRS on Dec 19, 2011 7:33:14 GMT -5
I have to wonder how The Rock would've fit in if Bret never left because with Bret gone and HBK hurt it opened the door for Rocky to become a main eventer.
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Dec 19, 2011 10:50:57 GMT -5
Well considering that Rock didnt exactly main event till the very end of 98 so I don't think he would have been effected much at all by Bret staying.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2011 2:04:15 GMT -5
Yeah the little spat with Bret after SS97 definitely started the heel Mcmahon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2011 5:42:30 GMT -5
it amazes me that Vince thought he would be viewed as the sympathetic figure here.he thought fans would turn on Bret for walking out on him and running to the evil WCW for more money like Hall,nash,Hogan,Savage and so many others. but man he got that one wrong........but  me did it work out well or what?? |
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Post by Squatch on Dec 20, 2011 9:21:06 GMT -5
Bret wouldn't have fitted in the Attitude Era at all. He would have been as out of place as he was in WCW. The WWF was his home, but he wouldn't have really fit in any promotion. 1998 might have been the worst year for Bret.
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Dec 20, 2011 9:53:11 GMT -5
I think 98 would have been a great year. Bret fit in well in 97 and those two years arent a whole lot different. I feel like 99 would be where things would get shaky if Bret had stayed
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Post by K5 on Dec 20, 2011 19:54:20 GMT -5
he says in wrestling with shadows that he wasn't comfortable with the direction of the product, which is why his comments towards hbk and others behavior was very often heart felt. i think he easily could've become the ultimate heel, and make him side with vince mcmahon as an ultimate sign of him 'selling out' on being good in any way and his original character he'd been for 6 years +. have him and austin continue their feud, with it splitting off to austin/mcmahon.
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