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Post by HHH316 on Nov 7, 2012 1:14:03 GMT -5
This is gonna end a lot quicker than I expected.
I've got a few friends who are photographing Obama's speech tonight at McCormick Place, so I'm looking forward to seeing those photos. I got to do it at his 2008 acceptance speech in Grant Park, & it is still probably the most amazing gathering I've ever seen.
I'm very excited Obama got the win, but I wasn't too worried he wouldn't my mom & sister were freaking out all day at the thought of me getting denied health insurance, thanks to Mitt, but now I don't have to worry about that.
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Post by King Silva on Nov 7, 2012 2:09:49 GMT -5
Very happy with the results.
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Post by J12 on Nov 7, 2012 2:11:58 GMT -5
As usual, this was a "lesser of two evils" victory to me. I wholeheartedly supported Obama in '08, was disappointed with his first term, but had absolutely zero faith in Mitt Romney. In fact, he downright scared me.
I'm glad that who I consider to be the better of the two men won, but it doesn't change the fact that I believe we're voting in a broken two party system and doing ourselves no favors in the long run.
I am incredibly happy, though, to report that Maine has chosen to legalize same sex marriages. I can only hope that this is the last time this issue shows up on our ballots.
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Post by Kliquid on Nov 7, 2012 3:12:26 GMT -5
Oh look, Ron Paul wins Minnesota caucus. Oh look, Mitt Romney wins GOP nomination (despite trailing numerous different candidates in the polls). Oh look, Barack Obama is re-elected. #ThingsIPredictedInFebruary The reality is this, folks. The GOP is continuing to itself by running these half-assed, spineless dickheads at the top of their ticket. Mitt Romney did not energize the masses. That was plain to see. You're not going to win a campaign by *not* being someone.
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Post by Markw on Nov 7, 2012 3:29:29 GMT -5
Coming from outside the USA, I don't believe the Electoral College serves any purpose anymore. I disagree. ;D
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 7, 2012 3:36:46 GMT -5
The bottom line about Mitt Romney is that his aloofness and arrogance about his own wealth while the majority of this country is broke and looking for work was down right offensive.
All of these corporate CEO businessman type guys are the ones who got our economy into the mess we are currently in, the last thing anybody was going to do was to make one of them President.
Mitt Romney and his wife are worth an estimated combined $264 million dollars. I never got the feeling that Mitt Romney gave two craps about the people who are struggling. Maybe it's all an act, but while Obama may be in over his head a little, at least he APPEARS to want to try and help people.
Presidents usually don't accomplish jack sh*t in their first term because since day one all they are focusing on is campaigning to get re-elected. Well, Obama is re-elected, so now let's see what he's really got.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 7, 2012 6:22:15 GMT -5
Im not shocked at all that Obama won. I am shocked at how he won. Romney didn't take a single swing state which is very surprising. I'm alphabetized at how easily Obama blamed all the problems with the economy on Bush and made it look like none of them were his fault at all even though he's been in office for 4 years. I don't thing Obama lost so much as Mitt failed to best him and just gave the election away. Kills me that the Republicans can't run a decent candidate. Kills me that the Dems just have to run a media darling and that's all she wrote.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2012 7:58:54 GMT -5
Im not shocked at all that Obama won. I am shocked at how he won. Romney didn't take a single swing state which is very surprising. I'm alphabetized at how easily Obama blamed all the problems with the economy on Bush and made it look like none of them were his fault at all even though he's been in office for 4 years. I don't thing Obama lost so much as Mitt failed to best him and just gave the election away. Kills me that the Republicans can't run a decent candidate. Kills me that the Dems just have to run a media darling and that's all she wrote. Sent from my GT-P7510 using proboards stfu idiot
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Nov 7, 2012 8:40:35 GMT -5
Im not shocked at all that Obama won. I am shocked at how he won. Romney didn't take a single swing state which is very surprising. I'm alphabetized at how easily Obama blamed all the problems with the economy on Bush and made it look like none of them were his fault at all even though he's been in office for 4 years. I don't thing Obama lost so much as Mitt failed to best him and just gave the election away. Kills me that the Republicans can't run a decent candidate. Kills me that the Dems just have to run a media darling and that's all she wrote. Sent from my GT-P7510 using proboards stfu idiot Sorry Hulk - but "kurtfreakingangle" here makes a more pressing, valid argument.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 7, 2012 8:59:03 GMT -5
Well I'm happy to see Obama win another term. Hopefully now our congress can put the country first and get some positive things accomplished.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Nov 7, 2012 10:21:30 GMT -5
Oh look, Ron Paul wins Minnesota caucus. Oh look, Mitt Romney wins GOP nomination (despite trailing numerous different candidates in the polls). Oh look, Barack Obama is re-elected. #ThingsIPredictedInFebruary The reality is this, folks. The GOP is continuing to itself by running these half-assed, spineless dickheads at the top of their ticket. Mitt Romney did not energize the masses. That was plain to see. You're not going to win a campaign by *not* being someone. To be fair I think most of us predicted Romney getting the nomination and Obama winning. And I disagree, I feel that the best way for the Republicans to win isn't to send out an extremist or TEA Party fan, but to stick to the centre ground. I think Romney lost simply because he wasn't a good enough candidate, and if Republicans put up a TEA Partier in 2016 then they'll lose again.
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Post by HR2X on Nov 7, 2012 11:25:51 GMT -5
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years"
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 7, 2012 11:32:54 GMT -5
Oh look, Ron Paul wins Minnesota caucus. Oh look, Mitt Romney wins GOP nomination (despite trailing numerous different candidates in the polls). Oh look, Barack Obama is re-elected. #ThingsIPredictedInFebruary The reality is this, folks. The GOP is continuing to itself by running these half-assed, spineless dickheads at the top of their ticket. Mitt Romney did not energize the masses. That was plain to see. You're not going to win a campaign by *not* being someone. To be fair I think most of us predicted Romney getting the nomination and Obama winning. And I disagree, I feel that the best way for the Republicans to win isn't to send out an extremist or TEA Party fan, but to stick to the centre ground. I think Romney lost simply because he wasn't a good enough candidate, and if Republicans put up a TEA Partier in 2016 then they'll lose again. Romney lost because he failed to attack Obama and he let the Obama campaign define what he was to the American voters.
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Post by T R W on Nov 7, 2012 12:02:29 GMT -5
Just some random thoughts from me about the elections in general. I'll start by saying that my vote went to Gary Johnson. Call it wasted, or whatever, I don't really care. I voted for my principles. Not that I am a big fan of Gary Johnson, but he by far best represented my ideals. No matter who I voted for, Romney was going to win Georgia which he did handily. Watching the election coverage and people's reaction with no dog in the race was very interesting.
I knew Romney would lose, and it ended up about as close as I expected, which was't very. He was a smug rich guy who never actually defined himself or his campaign, and had little appeal to many people other than the fact that he is Republican and not Obama. Most people I know who voted for him didn't particulary like him, and were basically just voting against Obama. You can't win that way.
I am very happy to see Maine, Washington, and Maryland vote for marriage equality and I am happy to see Colorado and Washington vote against marijuana prohibition (even though I do not partake.) Hopefully this means other states will start joining them at a faster pace.
Mostly I hope this election was a wake up call for the Republican Party. I voted for Bush against Clinton, I voted for Dole against Clinton, I voted for George W. Bush both times, and I even voted for John McCain. However I feel like the Republican party has been listening more and more to the hardcore religious right regarding their stances, policies, and platforms. I feel like they have regressed to the point that in today's world, they look like out of touch dinosaurs. They keep trotting the same type of candidates out there that the American people don't like, and don't identify with. With an awful economy you run Romney? Really? I would love to see the Republican Party leave religion out of their platform, come to modern times with their social beliefs, and focus on actual political conservatism as opposed to contradicting their "small government" claims by trying to legislate the bedroom. Otherwise, I hope this leads to the demise of the party with their outdated tactis, and leads to a rise in the Libertarian Party in their place. And I don't mean the tea party or fringe groups like that. I would love to see the Lib party get better organized, with better structure, and disassosicate themselves with the extremists, and bring over a lot of the disgruntled former Republicans like myself.
I am no fan of the Democratic Party by any means, however they do seem to have their craptogether much more than the Republicans these days, and don't look like someone trying to convince everyone that the world is still flat like a lot of Republicans do right now.
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Post by Markw on Nov 7, 2012 12:33:47 GMT -5
I knew Romney would lose, and it ended up about as close as I expected, which was't very. He was a smug rich guy who never actually defined himself or his campaign, and had little appeal to many people other than the fact that he is Republican and not Obama. Most people I know who voted for him didn't particulary like him, and were basically just voting against Obama. You can't win that way. Obviously as I'm British I didn't follow it that closely, but I got the impression that a lot of those who voted for Obama weren't neccesarily particularly pro-Obama but were voting against Romney. Certainly that's what I would have been doing if I was an American.
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Post by DemonsWiLL on Nov 7, 2012 12:57:52 GMT -5
The bottom line about Mitt Romney is that his aloofness and arrogance about his own wealth while the majority of this country is broke and looking for work was down right offensive. All of these corporate CEO businessman type guys are the ones who got our economy into the mess we are currently in, the last thing anybody was going to do was to make one of them President. Mitt Romney and his wife are worth an estimated combined $264 million dollars. I never got the feeling that Mitt Romney gave two craps about the people who are struggling. Maybe it's all an act, but while Obama may be in over his head a little, at least he APPEARS to want to try and help people. Presidents usually don't accomplish jack sh*t in their first term because since day one all they are focusing on is campaigning to get re-elected. Well, Obama is re-elected, so now let's see what he's really got. So you fell into the liberal campaigning. Just because someone is rich, doesn't mean they don't connect with the minorities. The minorities don't want to connect with the rich. You look at him as someone who doesn't care and who is above everyone else. Almost all people in government positions are rich, have accounts in different countries, and use tax loopholes. Republicans just don't want to attack like that. That's why I thought it was awesome when Romney called out Obama on the debates about the chinese accounts. Romney gave a lot to charity and cares about the people who speaks to. I also blame the media for Romney's loss. During Jimmy Carter's re election campaigning, WHO REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS THOUGHT OBAMA WERE SIMILAR TO, the media was pushing the hostage take over from the US Embassy in Iran and inflation. This led to Jimmy Carter losing re election. (Iran gave back the US hostages) Fast forward to this re election, terrorist attack in Bengahzi, 4 US embassadors dead. National debt. The Media only spoke about bengahzi for a week, even though last week, the CIA had videotapes and phone calls that proved it was a terrorist attack that the president and everyone in the whitehouse knew about before they gave their speeches about the attack. Obama won because this issue wasn't pushed by the media. Fox had it, NPR radio had it, but not cable media/newspapers. This is what it came down too in my eyes. Am i happy Obama won, hell no. But I pray he does better this next term. COME ON AMERICA!!!!!
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 7, 2012 13:51:00 GMT -5
I more identify myself as left but I voted right this time, for the first time since I've been eligible to vote. I have a lot of concerns with Obama and him creating government dependency, taxing people who actually work hard for a living in favor of giving that money away to people who sit on their ass, and then Obamacare, which I personally believe is going to be a nightmare for healthcare come 2014.
I felt Romney was a solid candidate and his background in Massachusetts balancing the budget and with education led me to believe he could translate that to a national scale. Plus, as a guy with an MBA I have massive respect for his professional career and what he was able to accomplish, and I related to that to be honest.
I voted for Obama in 08, and he doubled the deficit, and spent a lot of his time just marketing himself as a great guy over 4 years as opposed to being productive imo. He does seem like a great guy, but not a guy I'm confident can turn the economy around and I hope what he claimed about bipartisanship is true because that's what our country is going to need to climb out of this hole. I'm skeptical to say the least, and Russia and China celebrating to his re-election scares the sh*t out of me. That to me says America had a candidate that could mold the budget and evaluate exports and imports and possibly bring us to rival China on an international economic level once again, but he lost. Obama isn't capable of that kind of financial efficiency, as made clear by the deficit.
Listen, you're black and you voted for the 8% black guy, hispanic and feel neglected, a single women, gay, I get it. But that stuff divided our nation, that's a bunch of personal agenda bullish*t that doesn't help the greater good of our country imo. What does help is economic stability. The stock market is already reflecting the re-election less than 24 hours later and it will continue to be that way for the foreseeable future unless Obama can work with the right on the budget.
Is Obama the right guy? I personally don't think he is capable, but it's spilt milk as of today and it's time to move forward. If anything, at least I can thank him for the amazing mortgage rates right now, as they can't possibly get any lower and I'm looking to buy a house. So bravo for making the economy so sh*tty that interest is rock bottom for home owners.
There's a divide. Obama is closing the gap between upper and lower class citizens and projecting class warfare like we are living Atlas Shrugged. In the process he is completely eliminating the middle class. The rich can afford the tax hit, but it's the middle class who can't. He's dragging the middle class into lower class and thus making people dependent who have never been before. Ask not what you can do for your country, but rather, what your country can do for you. It's a sad day imo.
I think Marco Rubio will end up being the Republican candidate for 2016 so I'm interested to see how the nation will take to him, given his Cuban heritage, and I know South Florida has a strong right Cuban community already. However, I see him running against Hillary on the left, so it should make for one of the most intriguing elections in our history. Lets just hope they have something worth running for come 2016. I think Hillary is going to be one of the strongest candidates we have seen in the last two decades.
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Post by robinsonben36 on Nov 7, 2012 15:55:21 GMT -5
What's funny is that in your first sentence you say that you lean left, yet everything you wrote after that is almost verbatim criticism from those on the far right.
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Post by T R W on Nov 7, 2012 15:59:12 GMT -5
Hillary won't be running 4 years from now. She will be 69, and she has said she won't run again. Biden being almost 74 for the next election, I don't think he will run either.
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Post by Unleashed in the East on Nov 7, 2012 16:09:08 GMT -5
I'm not pleased with the results....I'm afraid of what will happen to this country in the next 4 years...
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