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Post by Richikane on Jan 20, 2012 22:59:09 GMT -5
Kofi Kingston. His feud with Orton was fantastic and I've always thought he deserves more than he gets. Not a world or wwe title run just yet, but in the upper upper mid card, mixing in with the main eventers way more.
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Post by Gazza on Jan 20, 2012 23:01:23 GMT -5
Paul Burchill
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 23:35:28 GMT -5
Two people said Goldberg?!?! Really?!?! In his short time with the company he ran through the Rock, Christian, Lance Storm, Chris Jericho, Ric Flair, 3 Minute Warning, Rodney Mack, Randy Orton, Mark Henry, Batista, Matt Hardy, La Resistance, and Brock Lesnar. Triple H was the only one he didn't go over the first time around. Goldberg and his fans bitch about his run because it wasn't like WCW. His matches in WCW were all basically sqaush matches for the first year or two. The fact is he went over everyone RAW had to over, but because he lost a few matches everyone complains. Goldberg was over, yes, but he didn't deserve anything more than he got.
And WWE didn't drop the ball with Kennedy. Kennedy dropped the ball with Kennedy.
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Post by jakks1996collector on Jan 21, 2012 1:16:34 GMT -5
CM Punk. To go from having him feud with likes of Vince, Cena, HHH, and Nash to feuding with lower mid-carders Del Rio, Miz, and Truth is pathetic. Glad he'll be back in a main eventer vs. main eventer feud soon with Jericho.
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Post by nwo4life on Jan 21, 2012 1:46:42 GMT -5
CM Punk. To go from having him feud with likes of Vince, Cena, HHH, and Nash to feuding with lower mid-carders Del Rio, Miz, and Truth is pathetic. Glad he'll be back in a main eventer vs. main eventer feud soon with Jericho. You consider Del Rio,Truth and Miz lower-midcarders. you obviously dont know what a lower midcarder is. all 3 of them are main eventers.
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Bullgod
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Post by Bullgod on Jan 21, 2012 4:11:11 GMT -5
Terry Taylor Hercules Hernendez Harley Race Dusty Rhodes Arn Anderson Tully Blanchard Shane Douglas Vader Flash Funk/2 Cold Scorpio DDP Billy Kidman Hugh Morrus Dean Malenko Perry Saturn Shelton Benjamin Tyson Kidd David Hart Smith Elijah Burke Lance Storm Mike Awesome Paul London Brian Kendrick Chavo Guerrero Raven Paul Burchill Nick Dinsmore Mr Kennedy Tazz Justin Creidble Jerry Lynn Bill Goldberg Scott Steiner Chris Kanyon Scotty Goldman/Colt Cobana Kaval/Low-Ki Mike Sanders Jason Jett Kaz Hayashi all the rest of the WCW wreslters who's contracts were picked up..
I can't be bothered anymore but my point is WWE has misused alot of guys who could have been huge stars..
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Mr. K.O
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Post by Mr. K.O on Jan 21, 2012 4:22:16 GMT -5
Raven. Nuff said
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Post by Sandy on Jan 21, 2012 5:12:52 GMT -5
Raven- When he first entered the WWE I felt they were starting to push him. But something happened and put that on the back burners for awhile and then RVD came and I feel he kinda stole the light from all ECW guys who had entered in or around the same time.
Justin Credible- His matches always seemed flat. But in ECW his matches were classics. I wish WWE allowed him to use more of his moves.
Razor Ramon-should have had a world title.
Santino- I feel like he is a much better wrestler and I hate him being the comedica relief for the WWE.
Brian Pillman
Vader-best big man wrestler....ever!
Goldust(1st run)
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 21, 2012 5:14:26 GMT -5
I don't think WWE has dropped the ball with anybody. Trust me, if there is one thing WWE and especially Vince McMahon are good at is making money.
If any of the people had the potential to draw SERIOUS money for WWE, they would have kept them.
Name one wrestler that WWE had and fired that went on to prove them wrong and be a draw somewhere else?
Shelton Benjamin....awesome talent. NO CHARISMA. No talking ability. He's 1/3 of the package you need to be a successful WWE Superstar and a draw in the business. Having great matches and no personality doesn't get it done. You need to draw the fans in and give them a reason to care about you.
Bottom line, every person that has ever been let go by WWE has ended up wrestling in either TNA drawing no money or ratings, or wrestling in high school gym's and your local town recreation center.
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Post by JoeyBats on Jan 21, 2012 5:15:48 GMT -5
I agree with Hassan, he was a great heel and getting alot of heat.
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Post by Sandy on Jan 21, 2012 5:32:42 GMT -5
I don't think WWE has dropped the ball with anybody. Trust me, if there is one thing WWE and especially Vince McMahon are good at is making money. If any of the people had the potential to draw SERIOUS money for WWE, they would have kept them. Name one wrestler that WWE had and fired that went on to prove them wrong and be a draw somewhere else? Shelton Benjamin....awesome talent. NO CHARISMA. No talking ability. He's 1/3 of the package you need to be a successful WWE Superstar and a draw in the business. Having great matches and no personality doesn't get it done. You need to draw the fans in and give them a reason to care about you. Bottom line, every person that has ever been let go by WWE has ended up wrestling in either TNA drawing no money or ratings, or wrestling in high school gym's and your local town recreation center. Tell that to Bret Hart....
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Post by MichaelTheMartian on Jan 21, 2012 5:39:03 GMT -5
Chris Masters, the last year of his run he became a top 5 in ring competitor and put on good matches with anyone on the roster.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 21, 2012 5:41:59 GMT -5
I don't think WWE has dropped the ball with anybody. Trust me, if there is one thing WWE and especially Vince McMahon are good at is making money. If any of the people had the potential to draw SERIOUS money for WWE, they would have kept them. Name one wrestler that WWE had and fired that went on to prove them wrong and be a draw somewhere else? Shelton Benjamin....awesome talent. NO CHARISMA. No talking ability. He's 1/3 of the package you need to be a successful WWE Superstar and a draw in the business. Having great matches and no personality doesn't get it done. You need to draw the fans in and give them a reason to care about you. Bottom line, every person that has ever been let go by WWE has ended up wrestling in either TNA drawing no money or ratings, or wrestling in high school gym's and your local town recreation center. Tell that to Bret Hart.... I don't understand what you mean by that. I assume you mean WWE dropped the ball by letting Bret Hart go.....but in reality, his WCW run was a disaster, he never had any impact on their company, and the WWF flourished with guys like Steve Austin, The Rock, Kane, Undertaker, Triple H and Mick Foley. So really.....WCW dropped the ball with Bret Hart. Unless you meant something else...let me know and I'll be glad to try and answer you.
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Post by brethartfan97 on Jan 21, 2012 5:58:20 GMT -5
The discussion starts and ends with Jericho. He has done wonder since his first return, but as the Millennium Man, he was posed for greatness and ended up in one of the more pitiful WM main events as a lame duck champion.
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Post by Bullgod on Jan 21, 2012 6:28:12 GMT -5
I don't think WWE has dropped the ball with anybody. Trust me, if there is one thing WWE and especially Vince McMahon are good at is making money. If any of the people had the potential to draw SERIOUS money for WWE, they would have kept them. Name one wrestler that WWE had and fired that went on to prove them wrong and be a draw somewhere else? Shelton Benjamin....awesome talent. NO CHARISMA. No talking ability. He's 1/3 of the package you need to be a successful WWE Superstar and a draw in the business. Having great matches and no personality doesn't get it done. You need to draw the fans in and give them a reason to care about you. Bottom line, every person that has ever been let go by WWE has ended up wrestling in either TNA drawing no money or ratings, or wrestling in high school gym's and your local town recreation center. I understand what you're saying and I agree to an extent but there is nowhere else for them to go and draw money other than TNA who is allmost as bad at misusing talent as WWE. And then theres the wrestlers who were drawing money prior to arriving at WWE who were just never given the opportunity, people like Dusty Rhodes, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, DDP, Goldberg, Scott Steiner, and then theres the ratings draws, Raven & Perry Saturn were drawing some pretty good ratings in there WCW feud during the monday night wars, as were many of the cruiserweights in WCW but when they arrived in WWE they just seemed to get burried. I think alot of wrestlers who have been released could have been draws if they were given the oppertunity to showcase there abilities the way they should have been as oposed to been kept off tv and put in ridiculous angles/matches which just burried them. The trouble with wrestling now is that the only people who seem to draw money outside of WWE are wrestlers who made it in WWE. Its not like the old terratory days, where you had Flair who could draw anywhere, Von Erichs who were drawing in Dallas, Lawler who were drawing in Memphis etc. Im pretty sure that many wrestlers who were misused by WWE can draw a good gate at an indie show, I think if a local indie show were advertised and you someone like Chavo Guerrero then more people would come to see the show than if you advertised just a local indie guy. But drawing money as a wrestler is a very hard thing to do. You need to make it in WWE, or TNA in order to become a drawing wrestler.
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Post by Kassius OhYes on Jan 21, 2012 9:42:31 GMT -5
Dean Malenko Perry Saturn Shelton Benjamin Test McIntyre Ron Simmons/Farooq William Regal- Had everything it took to make a world champ Ultimo Dragon Matt Morgan Nathan Jones Sean O' Haire Mr. Perfect
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Post by Affliction: Elite Trader on Jan 21, 2012 9:54:58 GMT -5
the first one that comes to mind is Tyson Kidd. he's got serious potential and talent but just isn't given any major tv time. maybe he'll never be a world champion but get him in the mix with the US & Intercontinental Titles.
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Post by laythvandam on Jan 21, 2012 10:31:35 GMT -5
The Nexus, it could still be going if they never had Orton or Cena run over all of them at the same time.
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Post by jakksking1 on Jan 21, 2012 10:37:46 GMT -5
Vader's WWF run was horrible and they completely dropped the ball with him. Vader was a monster and huge draw everywhere he went. His first WWF match? The Royal Rumble, in which he got eliminated. Not exactly a great start. Had good feuds with HBK and Taker, and ended up losing both of them, awful feud with Yoko then he just sorta disappeared.
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Post by The Undertaker on Jan 21, 2012 10:56:07 GMT -5
Benjamin, Nexus and Angle in 2006. Why would Angle be in ECW? What a horrible move that was. No wonder he left and went to TNA..
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