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Post by thehardys4life on Apr 5, 2012 22:56:39 GMT -5
Figures like Colin Delaney.
But Mattel says can't make people like Hawkins,Rekks, Singles Tyson Kidd.
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Post by Joejitsu22 on Apr 5, 2012 23:11:47 GMT -5
Quality > quantity, Seriously.
Also being profitable is important. Putting out figs that 10 people will buy is not good business.
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Post by anglefan80 on Apr 5, 2012 23:13:36 GMT -5
one of the two things Jakks was better at was getting broader assortments out there. Alot of it has to do with using so many of the same parts, but they were even able to get unique guys like Colin & Khali out in less then 8 months.
(the other being distribution)
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 5, 2012 23:13:51 GMT -5
I dont believe Mattel ever said they COULDNT make them...they said they didnt WANT to make them. Obviously, if you're not on TV you're probably not going to sell to well. Mattel makes smart business decisions. Jakks just half assed figures.
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Post by anglefan80 on Apr 5, 2012 23:14:45 GMT -5
Also being profitable is important. Putting out figs that 10 people will buy is not good business. Skip Sheffield kills that theory... |
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Post by thehardys4life on Apr 5, 2012 23:18:35 GMT -5
Quality > quantity, Seriously. Also being profitable is important. Putting out figs that 10 people will buy is not good business. I understand that they aren't huge stars but let me tell you the big stars aren't selling great either (Orton,Cena).If they would produce someone new it might sell. Even if it's 1 per case in every other series. |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Apr 6, 2012 0:21:22 GMT -5
Jakks had bigger production runs of their regular figures and put out a greater quantity of sets. Mattel, on the other hand, focuses on smaller, higher quality production runs on a few sets.
Basically, it was a different time for the economy.
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Post by Rob Furious on Apr 6, 2012 0:46:12 GMT -5
Because Jakks put out 70000000 figures a month for no real reason.
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Post by mrhoss on Apr 6, 2012 2:27:47 GMT -5
I love Mattel way more than Jakks and I think they produced a good portion of the roster but the notion that Mattel doesn't put out quantity is ridiculous. Although I think the Mattel defenders really bought into the "tv time" notion. I guess they would rather see repaint after repaint than a new character.
This is probably an unfair example but did you know the Star Wars line is built 90% on characters with 6 seconds of screen time and 0 lines?
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Post by "Original Broski" jonjon535353 on Apr 6, 2012 2:59:09 GMT -5
Colin Delaney would've probably still been made by Mattel. He actually DID have a storyline and a good amount of screen time. They tried to use the Mikey Whipwreck angle with him, but it didn't exactly work out. This complaint is crap, and has no real backing, seeing as how we're getting Jinder Mahal, Trent Barretta, and we got Zack Ryder when he was barely ever on t.v. We're probably gonna be getting Hawkins. I don't know about Reks or a new Kidd, but Hawkins definitely.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Apr 6, 2012 4:13:28 GMT -5
I will never understand why they went out of their way to make a whole new body for Colin - something you had to twist their  ing arms to ever do - and yet, so many guys were stuck with that awful heavyweight torso and the Jolly Green Giant manager legs. Like, why Colin? Of all the people you could make and enhance with a variety of parts, why in the world did Colin Delaney get the five star treatment from Jakks? It boggles my mind. |
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Post by Branchise on Apr 6, 2012 4:23:55 GMT -5
Yeah, but Hawkins and Reks are in the same spot Delaney was: On the third tier show, wrestling every week, and have storylines. In actuality, they might actually get more TV time then Delaney did because Superstars wasn't around when he was. This also doesn't account for the fans these guys have due to the social networking that's around currently.
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Post by James St. James on Apr 6, 2012 5:16:05 GMT -5
The reason Mattel hasn't made any of them yet is because you have to go on the internet to watch their matches, or even know who they are. I'm still not positive what any of these people look like or what their gimmicks are because there are a million other things to do on the internet.
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Post by Rob7274 on Apr 6, 2012 6:28:15 GMT -5
The reason Mattel hasn't made any of them yet is because you have to go on the internet to watch their matches, or even know who they are. I'm still not positive what any of these people look like or what their gimmicks are because there are a million other things to do on the internet. Not if you live in the UK and other countries. It's shown on TV. But I understand what your trying to say. All they need is a new headsculpt and attire designs. There's no new body parts needed... |
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Post by Kidd For President on Apr 6, 2012 6:47:35 GMT -5
"Cant" = F**K Jobbers. We need more Cenas and Ortons.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Apr 6, 2012 8:13:17 GMT -5
Because Colin was heavily featured on TV and if they didn't release him with all the parts they tooled they would lose money. They talked about it on the AOW podcast
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Post by punksnotdead on Apr 6, 2012 8:21:51 GMT -5
We are getting Barreta, and I would guess Hawkins is getting a figure in the not too distant future as well. I like that you are going, "hey, the company that lost the WWE license did this, why isn't Mattel." It's sort of self explanatory. Mattel created a strategy to work in figures like Vickie, Barreta and even Ryder back in B10 before he got more popular. I think they will continue to do a similar thing moving forward and be successful with it, wherein we can get the figure and they will make money.
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Post by kenlarchtin on Apr 6, 2012 8:42:20 GMT -5
I like how Mattel legends are a better quality roster than Jakks. We don't need Ron Bass but Randy Savage is a must.
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Post by Joejitsu22 on Apr 6, 2012 8:53:07 GMT -5
Also being profitable is important. Putting out figs that 10 people will buy is not good business. Skip Sheffield kills that theory... Skip was part of the hottest stable at the time, also was a stand out act early on until injury. So it does not kill my theory. It supports it. |
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Apr 6, 2012 9:37:48 GMT -5
There would be a lot of factors. For one the economy was in a far different shape back then so it wasnt as risky putting figures out in a climate like that. Secondly, youve got to consider how much production costs differ between now and then especially with the price of oil (and plastic). Secondly, jakks used a much smaller inventory of parts. The more unique parts you introduce the igher the production and tooling investment so the more you need to know its going to sell or youve wasted money. Mattel are getting their way around to other guys, you've got to keep in mind mattel are currently 2 and a bit years deep in with the line, jakks had in excess of 10 years at that point. Theres a whole range of reasons, risk has a fair bit to do with it Id imagine.
And plus, jakks had gone through a whole catalogue of guys at that point, fresh faces like that are necessary to keep mixing things up. Much like mattel are slowly incorporating new faces into the line e.g. mcgillicutty, baretta, cole, etc.
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