scoobypat
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Post by scoobypat on Jul 12, 2012 18:51:59 GMT -5
I think the vaseline thing is a violation of the spirit of the rule, but maybe not an actual violation. The dispersement of vaseline on the body is probably not illegal because it happens simply from the fight, but no one in their right mind would say it's a fair tactic. So while it may be not "illegal" I don't feel like it's not in some ways cheap or unfair.
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Post by Sonnen on Jul 12, 2012 18:53:19 GMT -5
I just don't like how many people on here dismiss what Chael did to Anderson, not only in the their first fight, but in the second as well. They make it sound like he got "whooped" in their second fight. I wouldn't say he "whooped" at all. Apparently, they missed the entire first round which Chael DOMINATED. It took Chael 4 seconds to take Anderson down and keep him down and even got full mount position!! When was the last time ANYONE other than Chael did that to Anderson in the UFC?? Maybe Travis Lutter and that's it and that was friggin' YEARS ago, people!! NOBODY has been able to do to Anderson Silva what Chael has done. He proved it. Granted, he lost both fights, but still did WAY better than anyone else before him in the UFC. People clearly aren't giving Chael Sonnen the respect he deserves. You're not getting the point that even though Sonnen took him down the whole round, he didn't do ANY substantial damage. Was Silva's face bloodied up? No, did Silva seem like he was EVER in grave danger? No. Sonnen only got the full mount at the end of the round and still didn't muster up any strong shots that rocked Silva. If you think what Chael did was so great, how come he didn't repeat what he did round 2? I think in my honest opinion, with all the hype and emotion, Silva let Sonnen ride his emotions for a bit and took him out. If you saw the whatever the spinning backfist that was, Sonnen doesn't throw crap like that and it was probably because he let his emotions get the best of him. Like I said before in my other post, this fight showed how the fighters react when things aren't going their way, Silva stayed calm and didn't let Sonnen do much damage, while Sonnen attempted a spinning backfist, Silva ducked and the rest is history. I'm not a Sonnen hater but when people say Sonnen lost this fight, he slipped, yada yada. In MMA you gotta take advatage of your opponents mistakes and counter on it. Silva is up 2-0 on Sonnen.5 rounds Sonnen 2 rounds Silva STILL YOUR PEOPLES CHAMPION! CHAEL! P SONNEN!
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 28, 2012 12:43:34 GMT -5
Anybody else seethe reports of Nick Diaz calling out Anderson Silva? Thats really interesting.
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Post by scoobypat on Jul 28, 2012 13:34:42 GMT -5
Silva v. Diaz intriques me. Silva v. GSP feels like it would be a snooze fest and is almost guaranteed to go to judges decision.
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Post by Sandy on Jul 28, 2012 15:18:14 GMT -5
The striking between Diaz and Silva would be awesome...imagine all the taunting between the two during the fight...
BOOK IT, Dana!
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 28, 2012 15:27:35 GMT -5
Yeah seriously I have no idea how those two would match up striking wise.....both guys are so confident with their striking that you can almost gaurentee a stand up war.
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Post by Sonnen on Jul 30, 2012 17:50:18 GMT -5
Diaz has an over rated striking game, Anderson would kill him...
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Post by hammer on Jul 30, 2012 19:37:03 GMT -5
nick or nate having an overrated striking game is straight up funny.
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Post by Sonnen on Jul 30, 2012 19:53:22 GMT -5
I'm not saying he has a bad striking game, it's pretty solid but people speak of it was to highly. I've seen a few fights where he gets dropped, the only reason he hangs on and comes back is because has a solid chin. I think because of the way he fights and all the mind games he plays it's get more a reputation.
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 30, 2012 20:00:32 GMT -5
Nick and Nate have the best boxing in their respective weight classes IMO and saying either has overrated striking would be insane......look at their fights with BJ Penn and Donald Cerrone respectively.
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Post by Sonnen on Jul 30, 2012 20:11:16 GMT -5
If Koscheck was to stand and bang with Nick Diaz, I could see him dropping Diaz much like Daley did, the guy seems great on the offence but I decided to educate myself about him after watching the Daley fight and it's not like he is hard to drop, if he didn't have such a solid chin I don't think he would do so well.
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Post by Sandy on Jul 31, 2012 0:35:22 GMT -5
so because Diaz got dropped by Daley, who arguably has the biggest KO power in his hands at 170, you think Diaz has an overrated striking game....
..interesting.
I know Diaz was dropped by Zaromski, Gomi, and Noons...but that was more because Diaz gets a little carried away with his taunting...
whether you like it or not, his style works. Look how fast those fighters started to fade after dropping Diaz, and Diaz popping back up. He has won every fight where a fighter dropped him (minus the first noons fight).
Diaz vs. Silva would be a mixture of a great stand-up war and a bjj clinic...
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Post by James Hetfield on Jul 31, 2012 1:08:57 GMT -5
Diaz puts guys into a false sense of security. He knows they can't deal with his pace.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 31, 2012 6:50:31 GMT -5
I think Diaz would be tailor-made for Silva... Silva loves aggressive guys that are willing to bang (Leben, Forrest, Belfort). Diaz is better than those guys, but I still think it would be over fairly quickly.
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Post by Sonnen on Jul 31, 2012 10:12:37 GMT -5
I think Diaz would be tailor-made for Silva... Silva loves aggressive guys that are willing to bang (Leben, Forrest, Belfort). Diaz is better than those guys, but I still think it would be over fairly quickly. Pretty much this, I love watching Diaz scrap, he is one the most entertaining fighters out there, but the reality of it is he'll just get dropped again but won't be getting up if he fights Anderson. His overall striking game I'd argue isn't the best in the WW division, and Anderson Silva is a whole other animal.
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