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Post by ICW on May 24, 2012 0:37:30 GMT -5
THAT'S IT! That's EXACTLY it, I especially remember the part of New Jack/Cena being in a feud. That was copied and pasted from a dirtsheet website, I remember reading it on there.
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Post by scoobypat on May 24, 2012 10:08:31 GMT -5
Most dirt sheets right in the default "but plans could change" line to avoid boxing themselves in by their own walls of crap. A few potentially start with a nugget of truth but they stretch that into something absurd. So you'll probably never see something flat out wrong but something with an ounce of truth surrounded by a crapton of lies.
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Post by jfinnomore on May 24, 2012 10:18:39 GMT -5
Come on people, I want hard evidence, from real sources. Remember ALL pro wrestling news on the internet originates from 3 sources The Wrestling Observer www.f4wonline.comThe Pro Wrestling Torch www.PWTorch.comPWInsider www.pwinsider.comAny report that doesn't originate at one of these places is likely untrue. So come on, let's see some examples, I defy you to find any. And no, "I remember reading this" doesn't count, that's anecdotal evidence. Do you work for one of these rags or something?
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Post by wabarrett on May 24, 2012 10:24:03 GMT -5
Come on people, I want hard evidence, from real sources. Remember ALL pro wrestling news on the internet originates from 3 sources The Wrestling Observer www.f4wonline.comThe Pro Wrestling Torch www.PWTorch.comPWInsider www.pwinsider.comAny report that doesn't originate at one of these places is likely untrue. So come on, let's see some examples, I defy you to find any. And no, "I remember reading this" doesn't count, that's anecdotal evidence. Do you work for one of these rags or something? My thoughts exactly. His every post involves having a go at people who criticize dirtsheets. Frankly, virtually everything I ever read on a dirtsheet I pass of as either speculation or straight up bulls***.
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Post by Daniel Bryan Says No on May 24, 2012 11:05:24 GMT -5
Come on people, I want hard evidence, from real sources. Remember ALL pro wrestling news on the internet originates from 3 sources The Wrestling Observer www.f4wonline.comThe Pro Wrestling Torch www.PWTorch.comPWInsider www.pwinsider.comAny report that doesn't originate at one of these places is likely untrue. So come on, let's see some examples, I defy you to find any. And no, "I remember reading this" doesn't count, that's anecdotal evidence. Okay. Those sites were claiming the Revolution videos were for a new or returning superstar and named Matt Morgan as a big possibility. It's for a video game.
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Post by comintogetcha on May 24, 2012 11:35:05 GMT -5
Come on people, I want hard evidence, from real sources. Remember ALL pro wrestling news on the internet originates from 3 sources The Wrestling Observer www.f4wonline.comThe Pro Wrestling Torch www.PWTorch.comPWInsider www.pwinsider.comAny report that doesn't originate at one of these places is likely untrue. So come on, let's see some examples, I defy you to find any. And no, "I remember reading this" doesn't count, that's anecdotal evidence. Okay. Those sites were claiming the Revolution videos were for a new or returning superstar and named Matt Morgan as a big possibility. It's for a video game. They were? Where? I don't ever remember reading that, please, link me. I don't work for any site, but I have yet to see any convicing evidence that they are not truthful. Every time this discussion comes up, I ask someone for evidence of their untrustworthiness, and no one can ever give me any. Based on how that New Jack story was copied and pasted, it's clear that it came from a site like Wrestlezone which is not trustworthy. They steal news from the three real sites, and toss in their own made up BS. These sites are characterized by the links at the bottom which claim to direct you to outrageous stories like "Kelly Kelly nude in Playboy pics inside" or "Major WWE superstar on his death bed!", and then when you click on the links it redirects you to a half dozen other crap sites full of Malware. These sites don't count, and you can hardly point to them to discredit any real sites.
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Post by jfinnomore on May 24, 2012 11:54:28 GMT -5
Okay. Those sites were claiming the Revolution videos were for a new or returning superstar and named Matt Morgan as a big possibility. It's for a video game. They were? Where? I don't ever remember reading that, please, link me. I don't work for any site, but I have yet to see any convicing evidence that they are not truthful. Every time this discussion comes up, I ask someone for evidence of their untrustworthiness, and no one can ever give me any. Based on how that New Jack story was copied and pasted, it's clear that it came from a site like Wrestlezone which is not trustworthy. They steal news from the three real sites, and toss in their own made up BS. These sites are characterized by the links at the bottom which claim to direct you to outrageous stories like "Kelly Kelly nude in Playboy pics inside" or "Major WWE superstar on his death bed!", and then when you click on the links it redirects you to a half dozen other crap sites full of Malware. These sites don't count, and you can hardly point to them to discredit any real sites. www.pwinsider.com/article/68642/wwe-revolution-update-spoiler.html?p=1Them claiming the revolution is Ambrose.
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Post by comintogetcha on May 24, 2012 12:06:20 GMT -5
They were? Where? I don't ever remember reading that, please, link me. I don't work for any site, but I have yet to see any convicing evidence that they are not truthful. Every time this discussion comes up, I ask someone for evidence of their untrustworthiness, and no one can ever give me any. Based on how that New Jack story was copied and pasted, it's clear that it came from a site like Wrestlezone which is not trustworthy. They steal news from the three real sites, and toss in their own made up BS. These sites are characterized by the links at the bottom which claim to direct you to outrageous stories like "Kelly Kelly nude in Playboy pics inside" or "Major WWE superstar on his death bed!", and then when you click on the links it redirects you to a half dozen other crap sites full of Malware. These sites don't count, and you can hardly point to them to discredit any real sites. www.pwinsider.com/article/68642/wwe-revolution-update-spoiler.html?p=1Them claiming the revolution is Ambrose. If you slow down the video frame by frame, he does appear in the video, so it seems reasonable to suspect he is the one the videos are about. Of course it doesn't help that WWE fueled the fire and led people to think it was something a little bigger than another video game www.wwe.com/inside/revolution-looms-is-the-wwe-universe-readyAt least PWInsider was honest about the fact that initial reports were incorrect. pwinsider.com/article/68671/latest-on-wwe-revolution-campaign.html?p=1
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Post by jfinnomore on May 24, 2012 12:12:06 GMT -5
Point is they take plenty of shots in the dark and cover it with ''may be'' they might be the most credible dirt sheets but they are still just that, a dirt sheet.
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Post by Daniel Bryan Says No on May 24, 2012 12:18:12 GMT -5
Point is they take plenty of shots in the dark and cover it with ''may be'' they might be the most credible dirt sheets but they are still just that, a dirt sheet. The words "may be" and "could" are used so often in dirt sheet reports so when their "sources" are wrong they can cover their own tracks. There was a time where dirt sheets were very reliable but in the age of twitter and people trying to get the story out first and drive traffic to their website there are plenty of errors.
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Post by comintogetcha on May 24, 2012 12:26:52 GMT -5
Point is they take plenty of shots in the dark and cover it with ''may be'' they might be the most credible dirt sheets but they are still just that, a dirt sheet. The words "may be" and "could" are used so often in dirt sheet reports so when their "sources" are wrong they can cover their own tracks. There was a time where dirt sheets were very reliable but in the age of twitter and people trying to get the story out first and drive traffic to their website there are plenty of errors. You're absolutely correct, but the issue at hand is that things DO change, sometimes on the day of the show, sometimes multiple times. Case in point, Kharma, who was backstage at Backlash, was supposed to beat the Bella Twins for the title, and even revealed this fact on Twitter, was taken out of the match solely because the news had been revealed on the Internet. Hell, there have been interviews with Punk and Cena where they are asked who they are wrestling tonight, and they admit to having no clue, and that it's probably changed six times since the start of the interview.
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Post by jfinnomore on May 24, 2012 12:50:20 GMT -5
The words "may be" and "could" are used so often in dirt sheet reports so when their "sources" are wrong they can cover their own tracks. There was a time where dirt sheets were very reliable but in the age of twitter and people trying to get the story out first and drive traffic to their website there are plenty of errors. You're absolutely correct, but the issue at hand is that things DO change, sometimes on the day of the show, sometimes multiple times. Case in point, Kharma, who was backstage at Backlash, was supposed to beat the Bella Twins for the title, and even revealed this fact on Twitter, was taken out of the match solely because the news had been revealed on the Internet. Hell, there have been interviews with Punk and Cena where they are asked who they are wrestling tonight, and they admit to having no clue, and that it's probably changed six times since the start of the interview. Cause what stars say on twitter is always truth ...
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Post by scoobypat on May 24, 2012 12:53:46 GMT -5
So? That's still nothing but rampant speculation with zero base being passed of as insider information. The freaking site name has insider in the name and they had zero leg up on the story than say any of us and still published a story about it just taking a blind swipe in the dark. Also posting an article after the fact where it tells what is actually true does no excuse publishing an incorrect article to begin with. Firstly they never actually admit to being wrong, they simply state that it was previously thought (as if this was a consensus for everyone, not the result of them perpetuating a false story) and they don't mention their own incorrect reporting nor apologize for it. Secondly I laughed at the "in speaking with several people" line, it makes it sound like he spoke with several of those related to the WWE but in all honesty the new of this being a video game likely leaked from pre-E3 events that gaming journalists were invited to last week. So there goes that... I guess my biggest problem is that you're comfortable with them publishing an erroneous story and then a few days later publishing a new one that basically says "Oh yeah all of that stuff before was wrong... but this time." They have zero credibility in my mind, and they hold themselves to zero journalistic standards and ethics. I wouldn't dream of publishing a story based off of my own speculation and then just banking off of the fact that if wrong I can just repost a new one a few days later. I mean this story deals with a video game so it's relatively innocuous, but so often these stories deal with people's profession or their personal reputation and the damage done by erroneous tabloid journalism because of that cannot be undone. You take a persons life and you begin to make accusations and it can cause them a lot of stress with you intend to or not. I mean my sig is a great example, years back it was wildly reported Orton pooped in some diva's bag, he later admitted that it was tanning cream and he had no idea where the poop story originated but there you go. I'm not saying that he's necessarily a victim in this story but all you need is some half assed journalist to here "Orton put a bunch of crap in some girls bag" and he takes it literally and you've forever created a cloud that hangs over a person.
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Post by Joejitsu22 on May 24, 2012 13:09:54 GMT -5
I remember both lance cade or mark jindrak was reported to be in evolution, a spot Orton eventually held.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2012 13:14:00 GMT -5
I remember both lance cade or mark jindrak was reported to be in evolution, a spot Orton eventually held. Never remember it being reported about Cade, but that was true as far as Jindrak is concerned.
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Post by Daniel Bryan Says No on May 24, 2012 13:17:22 GMT -5
Remember when they all had Lance Cade doing an HBK gimmick and they were actually going to call him HBCade. You can't make this stuff up.
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Post by comintogetcha on May 24, 2012 14:16:51 GMT -5
So? That's still nothing but rampant speculation with zero base being passed of as insider information. The freaking site name has insider in the name and they had zero leg up on the story than say any of us and still published a story about it just taking a blind swipe in the dark. Also posting an article after the fact where it tells what is actually true does no excuse publishing an incorrect article to begin with. Firstly they never actually admit to being wrong, they simply state that it was previously thought (as if this was a consensus for everyone, not the result of them perpetuating a false story) and they don't mention their own incorrect reporting nor apologize for it. Secondly I laughed at the "in speaking with several people" line, it makes it sound like he spoke with several of those related to the WWE but in all honesty the new of this being a video game likely leaked from pre-E3 events that gaming journalists were invited to last week. So there goes that... I guess my biggest problem is that you're comfortable with them publishing an erroneous story and then a few days later publishing a new one that basically says "Oh yeah all of that stuff before was wrong... but this time." They have zero credibility in my mind, and they hold themselves to zero journalistic standards and ethics. I wouldn't dream of publishing a story based off of my own speculation and then just banking off of the fact that if wrong I can just repost a new one a few days later. I mean this story deals with a video game so it's relatively innocuous, but so often these stories deal with people's profession or their personal reputation and the damage done by erroneous tabloid journalism because of that cannot be undone. You take a persons life and you begin to make accusations and it can cause them a lot of stress with you intend to or not. I mean my sig is a great example, years back it was wildly reported Orton pooped in some diva's bag, he later admitted that it was tanning cream and he had no idea where the poop story originated but there you go. I'm not saying that he's necessarily a victim in this story but all you need is some half assed journalist to here "Orton put a bunch of crap in some girls bag" and he takes it literally and you've forever created a cloud that hangs over a person. The Orton story is true. The woman in question was Amy Weber.
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Post by Duke Silver on May 24, 2012 14:48:34 GMT -5
I think I got it. You want to prove that you know what's going on in the business and you disprove almost everyone's statements because somehow you know all the facts; shows are being rewritten multiple times and what wrestler are saying. Do you work for WWE? Because I need a job. *by the way, stop taking everything so damn seriously - enjoy the show instead of pretending to know everything.
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Post by scoobypat on May 24, 2012 14:50:56 GMT -5
So? That's still nothing but rampant speculation with zero base being passed of as insider information. The freaking site name has insider in the name and they had zero leg up on the story than say any of us and still published a story about it just taking a blind swipe in the dark. Also posting an article after the fact where it tells what is actually true does no excuse publishing an incorrect article to begin with. Firstly they never actually admit to being wrong, they simply state that it was previously thought (as if this was a consensus for everyone, not the result of them perpetuating a false story) and they don't mention their own incorrect reporting nor apologize for it. Secondly I laughed at the "in speaking with several people" line, it makes it sound like he spoke with several of those related to the WWE but in all honesty the new of this being a video game likely leaked from pre-E3 events that gaming journalists were invited to last week. So there goes that... I guess my biggest problem is that you're comfortable with them publishing an erroneous story and then a few days later publishing a new one that basically says "Oh yeah all of that stuff before was wrong... but this time." They have zero credibility in my mind, and they hold themselves to zero journalistic standards and ethics. I wouldn't dream of publishing a story based off of my own speculation and then just banking off of the fact that if wrong I can just repost a new one a few days later. I mean this story deals with a video game so it's relatively innocuous, but so often these stories deal with people's profession or their personal reputation and the damage done by erroneous tabloid journalism because of that cannot be undone. You take a persons life and you begin to make accusations and it can cause them a lot of stress with you intend to or not. I mean my sig is a great example, years back it was wildly reported Orton pooped in some diva's bag, he later admitted that it was tanning cream and he had no idea where the poop story originated but there you go. I'm not saying that he's necessarily a victim in this story but all you need is some half assed journalist to here "Orton put a bunch of crap in some girls bag" and he takes it literally and you've forever created a cloud that hangs over a person. The Orton story is true. The woman in question was Amy Weber. No, he put tanning cream in her bag, it was reported as he "put crap in her bag" which evolved into "he took a crap in her bag". Orton himself fessed up to this in an interview with WWE magazine (when it first switched over from (Raw/Smackdown magazine) in the same interview he talked about getting busted for smoking a joint outside of a show so I hardly doubt he was lying.
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Post by iamgreatness on May 24, 2012 17:05:48 GMT -5
ListSports is new and upcoming. And, even though the guy who posts articles on it is very, very smart and impressive, he's a bit of an bunghole. There was this famous blog post he did when he talked about HHH stealing the spotlight from the younger talent.
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