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Post by T R W on May 31, 2012 11:20:07 GMT -5
I love revisionist history in sports, and talking about the draft lottery made me want to go and look back at what the NBA draft might have looked like if there was no lottery, and the picks had been given to the teams in order of worst record. Now this isn't going to be perfect, and I know that the draft selections would likely have altered future standings, so this is pointless. But it IS fun to think about. So I have taken what the 6 worst teams were each year from 1985 to present, and decided to take a look at what teams players might have gone to in this What If scenario. I am not going to change who was picked, just change the team they went to. But I would like to open this up for discussion. Feel free to talk about how these altered picks could have changed a franchise, or the NBA as a whole. Also, feel free to go further down the draft order if you wish. I did not have time to do that right now. Anyway, here goes: 1985| 1 Patrick Ewing original team: Knicks New Team: Pacers | | 2 Wayman Tisdale original team: Pacers New Team: Warriors | | 3 Benoit Benjamin original team: Clippers New Team: Knicks | | 4 Xavier McDaniel original team: Sonics New Team: Clippers | | 5 Jon Konkak original team: Hawks New Team: Sonics | | 6 Joe Kleine original team: Kings new team: Kings |
| 1 Brad Daugherty original team: Cavs via Clippers New Team: Knicks | | 2 Len Bias via Sonics original team: Celtics New Team: Pacers | | 3 Chris Washburn original team: Warriors New Team: Cavs | | 4 Chuck Person original team: Pacers New Team: Warriors | | 5 Kenny Walker original team: Knicks New Team: Bulls | | 6 William Bedford original team: Suns new team: Celtics via Sonics |
| 1 David Robinson original team: Spurs New Team: Clippers | | 2 Armen Gilliam original team: Suns New Team: Knicks | | 3 Dennis Hopson original team: Nets New Team: Nets | | 4 Reggie Williams original team: Clippers New Team: Spurs | | 5 Scottie Pippen original team: Sonics New Team: Kings | | 6 Kenny Smith original team: Kings new team: Cavs |
| 1 Danny Manning original team: Clippers New Team: Clippers | | 2 Rik Smits original team: Pacers New Team: Nets | | 3 Charles Smith original team: Sixers New Team: Warriors | | 4 Chris Morris original team: Nets New Team: Kings | | 5 Mitch Richmond original team: Warriors New Team: Suns | | 6 Hersey Hawkins original team: Clippers new team: Spurs |
| 1 Pervis Ellison original team: Kings New Team: Heat | | 2 Danny Ferry original team: Clippers New Team: Hornets | | 3 Sean Elliot original team: Spurs New Team: Spurs | | 4 Glen Rice original team: Heat New Team: Clippers | | 5 J.R. Reid original team: Hornets New Team: Bulls via Nets | | 6 Stacey King original team: Bulls via Nets new team: Kings |
| 1 Derrick Coleman original team: Nets New Team: Nets | | 2 Gary Payton original team: Sonics New Team: Magic | | 3 Chris Jackson original team: Nuggets via Heat New Team: Nuggets via Heat | | 4 Dennis Scott original team: Magic New Team: Hornets | | 5 Kendall Gill original team: Hornets New Team: Timberwolves | | 6 Felton Spencer original team: Timberwolves new team: Kings |
| 1 Larry Johnson original team: Hornets New Team: Nuggets | | 2 Kenny Anderson original team: Nets New Team: Heat | | 3 Billy Owens original team: Kings New Team: Kings | | 4 Dikembe Mutombo original team: Nuggets New Team: Hornets | | 5 Steve Smith original team: Heat New Team: Nets | | 6 Doug Smith original team: Mavericks new team: Mavericks |
| 1 Shaquille O'Neal original team: Magic New Team: Timberwolves | | 2 Alonzo Mourning original team: Hornets New Team: Magic | | 3 Christian Laettner original team: Timberwolves New Team: Mavericks | | 4 Jimmy Jackson original team: Mavericks New Team: Nuggets | | 5 LaPhonso Ellis original team: Nuggets New Team: Bullets | | 6 Tom Gugliotta original team: Bullets new team: Kings |
| 1 Chris Webber original team: Magic New Team: Mavericks | | 2 Shawn Bradley original team: Sixers New Team: Timberwolves | | 3 Anfernee Hardaway original team: Warriors New Team: Bullets | | 4 Jamal Mashburn original team: Mavericks New Team: Kings | | 5 Isiah Rider original team: Timberwolves New Team: Sixers | | 6 Calbert Cheaney original team: Bullets new team: Bucks |
| 1 Glenn Robinson original team: Bucks New Team: Mavericks | | 2 Jason Kidd original team: Mavericks New Team: Bucks | | 3 Grant Hill original team: Pistons New Team: Pistons | | 4 Donyell Marshall original team: Timberwolves New Team: Timberwolves | | 5 Juwan Howard original team: Bullets New Team: Bullets | | 6 Sharone Wright original team: Sixers new team: Sixers |
| 1 Joe Smith original team: Warriors New Team: Clippers | | 2 Antonio McMcDyess original team: Clippers New Team: Bullets | | 3 Jerry Stackhouse original team: Sixers New Team: Timberwolves | | 4 Rasheed Wallace original team: Bullets New Team: Sixers | | 5 Kevin Garnett original team: Timberwolves New Team: Warriors | | 6 Bryant Reeves original team: Grizzlies new team: Pistons |
| 1 Allen Iverson original team: Sixers New Team: Grizzlies | | 2 Marcus Camby original team: Raptors New Team: Sixers | | 3 Shareef Abdur-Rahim original team: Grizzlies New Team: Raptors | | 4 Stephon Marbury original team: Bucks New Team: Bucks | | 5 Ray Allen original team: Timberwolves New Team: Celtics via Mavs | | 6 Antoine Walker original team: Celtics via Mavs new team: Timberwolves |
| 1 Tim Duncan original team: Spurs New Team: Grizzlies | | 2 Keith Van Horn original team: Sixers New Team: Celtics | | 3 Chauncey Billups original team: Celtics New Team: Spurs | | 4 Antonio Daniels original team: Grizzlies New Team: Nuggets | | 5 Tony Battie original team: Nuggets New Team: Sixers | | 6 Ron Mercer original team: Celtics new team: Mavericks |
| 1 Michael Olowokandi original team: Clippers New Team: Nuggets | | 2 Mike Bibby original team: grizzlies New Team: Raptors | | 3 Raef LaFrentz original team: Nuggets New Team: Clippers | | 4 Antawn Jamison original team: Raptors New Team: Warriors | | 5 Vince Carter original team: Warriors New Team: Grizzlies | | 6 Robert Traylor original team: Mavericks new team: Mavericks |
| 1 Elton Brand original team: Bulls New Team: Grizzlies | | 2 Steve Francis original team: Grizzlies New Team: Clippers | | 3 Baron Davis original team: Hornets New Team: Bulls | | 4 Lamar Odom original team: Clippers New Team: Nuggets | | 5 Jonathan Bender original team: Raptors New Team: Nets | | 6 Wally Szczerbiak original team: Timberwolves new team: Wizards |
| 1 Kenton Martin original team: Nets New Team: Clippers | | 2 Stromile Swift original team: Grizzlies New Team: Bulls | | 3 Darius Miles original team: Clippers New Team: Warriors | | 4 Marcus Fizer original team: Bulls New Team: Grizzlies | | 5 Mike Miller original team: Magic New Team: Hawks | | 6 DerMarr Johnson original team: Hawks new team: Wizards |
| 1 Kwame Brown original team: Wizards New Team: Bulls | | 2 Tyson Chandler original team: Clippers New Team: Warriors | | 3 Pau Gasol original team: Hawks New Team: Wizards | | 4 Eddy Curry original team: Bulls New Team: Grizzlies | | 5 Jason Richardson original team: Warriors New Team: Hawks | | 6 Shane Battier original team: Grizzlies new team: Nets |
| 1 Yao Ming original team: Rockets New Team: Bulls | | 2 Jay Williams original team: Bulls New Team: Warriors | | 3 Mike Dunleavy original team: Warriors New Team: Grizzlies | | 4 Drew Gooden original team: Grizzlies New Team: Nuggets | | 5 Nikoloz Tskitishvili original team: Nuggets New Team: Rockets | | 6 Dajuan Wagner original team: Cavs new team: Cavs |
| 1 Lebron James original team: Cavs New Team: Cavs | | 2 Darko Mikicic original team: Detroit via Grizzlies New Team: Nuggets | | 3 Carmelo Anthony original team: Nuggets New Team: Raptors | | 4 Chris Bosh original team: Raptors New Team: Heat | | 5 Dwayne Wade original team: Heat New Team: Grizzlies | | 6 Chris Kaman original team: Clippers new team: Bulls |
| 1 Dwight Howard original team: Magic New Team: Magic | | 2 Emeka Okafor original team: Bobcats via Clippers New Team: Bulls | | 3 Ben Gordon original team: Bulls New Team: Wizards | | 4 Shaun Livingston original team: Clippers via Charlotte New Team: Bobcats via Clippers | | 5 Devin Harris original team: Wizards New Team: Hawks | | 6 Josh Childress original team: Hawks New Team: Suns |
| 1 Andrew Bogut original team: Bucks New Team: Hawks | | 2 Marvin Williams original team: Hawks New Team: Hornets | | 3 Deron Williams original team: Jazz New Team: Bobcats | | 4 Chris Paul original team: Hornets New Team: Jazz | | 5 Raymond Felton original team: Bobcats New Team: Blazers | | 6 Martell Webster original team: Blazers new team: Bucks |
| 1 Andrea Bargnani original team: Raptors New Team: Blazers | | 2 LaMarcus Aldridge original team: Bulls New Team: Knicks | | 3 Adam Morrison original team: Bobcats New Team: Hawks | | 4 Tyrus Thomas original team: Blazers New Team: Bobcats | | 5 Sheldon Williams original team: Hawks New Team: Raptors | | 6 Brandon Roy original team: Timberwolves new team: Timberwolves |
| 1 Greg Oden original team: Blazers New Team: Grizzlies | | 2 Kevin Durant original team: Sonics New Team: Celtics | | 3 Al Horford original team: Hawks New Team: Bucks | | 4 Mike Conley Jr. original team: Grizzlies New Team: Hawks | | 5 Jeff Green original team: Celtics New Team: Timberwolves | | 6 Yi Jianlian original team: Bucks new team: Blazers |
| 1 Derrick Rose original team: Bulls New Team: Heat | | 2 Michael Beasley original team: Heat New Team: Sonics | | 3 O.J. Mayo original team: Timberwolves New Team: Timberwolves | | 4 Russell Westbrook original team: Sonics New Team: Grizzlies | | 5 Kevin Love original team: Grizzlies New Team: Knicks | | 6 Danilo Gallinari original team: Knicks new team: Clippers |
| 1 Blake Griffin original team: Clippers New Team: Kings | | 2 Hasheem Thabeet original team: Grizzlies New Team: Clippers | | 3 James Harden original team: Thunder New Team: Timberwolves via Wizards | | 4 Tyreke Evans original team: Kings New Team: Thunder | | 5 Ricky Rubio original team: Timberwolves via Wizards New Team: Grizzlies | | 6 Jonny Flynn original team: Timberwolves new team: Timberwolves |
| 1 John Wall original team: Wizards New Team: Nets | | 2 Evan Turner original team: Sixers New Team: Timberwolves | | 3 Derrick Favors original team: Nets New Team: Kings | | 4 Wesley Johnson original team: Timberwolves New Team: Wizards | | 5 DeMarcus Cousins original team: Kings New Team: Warriors | | 6 Ekpe Udoh original team: Warriors new team: Sixers |
| 1 Kyrie Irving original team: Cavs New Team: Timberwolves | | 2 Derrick Williams original team: Timberwolves New Team: Cavs | | 3 Enes kanter original team: Jazz via Nets New Team: Raptors | | 4 Tristan Thompson original team: Cavs New Team: Wizards | | 5 Jonas Valanciunas original team: Raptors New Team: Kings | | 6 Jan Vesely original team: Wizards new team: Jazz via Nets |
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Post by s13driver on May 31, 2012 14:42:36 GMT -5
Damn, the Timberwolves got ROBBED!!!
Shaq, Stackhouse, Evan Turner, Jeff Green, Harden, IRVING!!!
Granted, I'm more happy that the T-wolves got Garnett instead of Stackhouse but damn!!! I think the Timberwolves would have been a great team had they not got screwed by the lottery over and over and over!!! I hate the stupid lottery. Just an excuse for Stern to rig the NBA.
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Post by Quanthor on May 31, 2012 15:05:23 GMT -5
Portland probably still trades Felton down to get Webster which is easier to deal with than trading Deron Williams to get Webster. Still irked about that one. One of the many Trail-Blazers draft blunders.
Rose on the Heat is interesting. Do they keep Wade and still play for LBJ? Trade Wade?
What would the Vancouver Grizzlies be without "Big Country" Bryant Reeves?
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on May 31, 2012 17:17:55 GMT -5
Kevin Durant to the Celtics = Boner
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Post by T R W on May 31, 2012 23:01:25 GMT -5
I wonder though, if Durant did go to the Celtics, does the Big 3 happen? DO the Celtics get that championship with Pierce and Durant?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 23:16:02 GMT -5
I feel bad for the Wolves xD
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Post by T R W on Jun 2, 2012 17:40:35 GMT -5
The Wolves and Grizzlies are two teams that got screwed over a lot over the years.
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Post by LA Times on Jun 2, 2012 18:40:54 GMT -5
I wonder though, if Durant did go to the Celtics, does the Big 3 happen? DO the Celtics get that championship with Pierce and Durant? Tough question. They mightve, and that is a big might, won in 2010, but not in 2008. I thought expansion teams do not get the #1 pick in the draft until after 2 yrs, so the Grizz would not have gotten #1 in 1997 with that rule. If the Celtics had gotten Tim Duncan, the Celtics-Lakers rivalry wouldve been rekindled in 2000-2003. |
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jun 2, 2012 19:18:23 GMT -5
I wonder though, if Durant did go to the Celtics, does the Big 3 happen? DO the Celtics get that championship with Pierce and Durant? No big 3, but you gotta remember its Pierce, Rondo, Durant too. Title? Maybe, maybe not. But I bet it would have come eventually. I'd take that Big 3 |
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Post by LA Times on Jun 2, 2012 19:56:09 GMT -5
I wonder though, if Durant did go to the Celtics, does the Big 3 happen? DO the Celtics get that championship with Pierce and Durant? No big 3, but you gotta remember its Pierce, Rondo, Durant too. Title? Maybe, maybe not. But I bet it would have come eventually. I'd take that Big 3 They still would have a good starting 5 SF-Kevin Durant PF-Al Jefferson (a 20-10 guy) C-Kendrick Perkins SG-Paul Pierce PG-Rajon Rondo |
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Post by Quanthor on Jun 4, 2012 13:05:39 GMT -5
The funniest thing about looking at these is not just the draft busts, but being a kid and getting giddy finding their rookie cards. That crap was like worth it's weight in gold back then. If you had Tom Gugliotta's RC, you were the coolest kid on the block.
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Post by LA Times on Jun 16, 2012 19:46:21 GMT -5
Damn, the Timberwolves got ROBBED!!! Shaq, Stackhouse, Evan Turner, Jeff Green, Harden, IRVING!!! Granted, I'm more happy that the T-wolves got Garnett instead of Stackhouse but damn!!! I think the Timberwolves would have been a great team had they not got screwed by the lottery over and over and over!!! I hate the stupid lottery. Just an excuse for Stern to rig the NBA. With their lottery picks, draft day trades and other trades since 2007, the Timberwolves couldve fielded this team this season F-Derrick Williams F-Kevin Love C-Al Jefferson G-Wesley Johnson/Malcolm Lee G-Ricky Rubio Looks like it wouldve been a #8 seed, but something to build on |
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