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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 7, 2012 21:16:21 GMT -5
I've heard many people say they hope Aries takes the title at DX. I've heard many people say they actually believe he will take the title at DX. Me? I think its too soon. I think putting the belt on Aries right now is a mistake. I'm gonna explain why. But I'm also wondering what each of you think? How would you book Aries for the rest of 2012? Does he beat Roode at DX? Does he lose? Does he get the belt at all in 2012?
Here's mine:
Aries/Roode DX: These 2 men will get a solid 25 minutes to show case their talents. In the end, after numerous close calls....including Roode getting a foot on the rope after a Brain Buster......Roode grabs one of Storm's beer bottles from ringside, with the ref down. Storm, not wanting Roode to win this way....rushes down to ringside, taking the beer bottle from Roode. Storm goes to hit Roode with bottle.....Roode ducks and Aries gets blasted. Storm is shocked, as Roode tosses him to the floor and the ref comes too. Roode for the cover and the victory. Roode retains the World Title.
Impact: Aries is pissed. He asks Hogan for another opprotunity and is denied. He has relinquished his X Division title and got screwed at DX. He blames Storm. He wants a match with Storm tonight. That match ends in a no contest. It is also announced on this episode that due to the injury AJ Styles suffered at DX, he will not be able to compete during the BFG series any longer. Crimson demands he gets the spot. He was undefeated for 470 days and deserves this chance. What will Hogan do?
Impact the following week: Hogan says he has a made his decision concerning the BFG replacement. The person to take Styles spot and his 0 points will be.....enter Crimson. Crimson comes out boastfully. Hogan says he isnt done. He believes Crimson deserves a chance....but so does this man....cue Austin Aries. Aries and Crimson tonight, winner takes AJ's spot. Aries defeats Crimson and now dead last in the BFG series with 0 points, while Storm is out way ahead.
From then on out.....the story is Aries trying to race to the top of the BFG series to pass storm. Roode continues his path to BFG as champion. Aries and Storm meet in the finals with Aries winning the BFG series and THEN challenging Roode at BFG and THEN winning the World Title.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Jul 7, 2012 21:34:58 GMT -5
I'd agree with this storyline but honestly I think it should be Bully Ray taken out instead, he's involved in a storyline with Abyss/Joseph Park for who knows how long....but in an ideal situation this is what I would book...
Aries beats Roode at DX
Aries beats Roode again at HJ
Roode frustrated costs Storm the BFG series at NS
Angle wins BFG series at NS
Aries beats TV Champion at NS
BFG card looks like this:
Aries vs Angle
Storm vs Roode
Daniels vs Styles
Those 3 matches by themselves should sell a payperview, not too mention numerous other big draws still remaining to book...
for example book a TV title ladder match:
Hardy vs Anderson vs RVD vs Bully
Tag Team Title match:
Samoa Joe/Magnus vs The Pope/Devon vs The Robbie's
X-Division Title match:
Williams vs Kazarian vs Dutt vs King
add a KO match and some random match and you got yourself a pretty stacked card lead by 3 major main events...
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 8, 2012 0:12:10 GMT -5
I'd agree with this storyline but honestly I think it should be Bully Ray taken out instead, he's involved in a storyline with Abyss/Joseph Park for who knows how long....but in an ideal situation this is what I would book... Aries beats Roode at DX Aries beats Roode again at HJ Roode frustrated costs Storm the BFG series at NS Angle wins BFG series at NS Aries beats TV Champion at NS BFG card looks like this: Aries vs Angle Storm vs Roode Daniels vs Styles Those 3 matches by themselves should sell a payperview, not too mention numerous other big draws still remaining to book... for example book a TV title ladder match: Hardy vs Anderson vs RVD vs Bully Tag Team Title match: Samoa Joe/Magnus vs The Pope/Devon vs The Robbie's X-Division Title match: Williams vs Kazarian vs Dutt vs King add a KO match and some random match and you got yourself a pretty stacked card lead by 3 major main events... The reason I went with Styles over Bully was b/c Styles is a face. Its more sympathetic. Also, I figure this could easily transition to a Styles vs. Aries match in the future. And it gets Daniels more over as a top heel. Bully could work in the sense that you have Abyss take him out. So I definitely see where you are coming from and both are good choices. |
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Jul 8, 2012 0:25:52 GMT -5
I'd agree with this storyline but honestly I think it should be Bully Ray taken out instead, he's involved in a storyline with Abyss/Joseph Park for who knows how long....but in an ideal situation this is what I would book... Aries beats Roode at DX Aries beats Roode again at HJ Roode frustrated costs Storm the BFG series at NS Angle wins BFG series at NS Aries beats TV Champion at NS BFG card looks like this: Aries vs Angle Storm vs Roode Daniels vs Styles Those 3 matches by themselves should sell a payperview, not too mention numerous other big draws still remaining to book... for example book a TV title ladder match: Hardy vs Anderson vs RVD vs Bully Tag Team Title match: Samoa Joe/Magnus vs The Pope/Devon vs The Robbie's X-Division Title match: Williams vs Kazarian vs Dutt vs King add a KO match and some random match and you got yourself a pretty stacked card lead by 3 major main events... The reason I went with Styles over Bully was b/c Styles is a face. Its more sympathetic. Also, I figure this could easily transition to a Styles vs. Aries match in the future. And it gets Daniels more over as a top heel. Bully could work in the sense that you have Abyss take him out. So I definitely see where you are coming from and both are good choices. I don't mind Styles being out but I don't see the point of having him getting injured in basically the number 1B storyline in the company and leaving Daniels in the series. One other thing I don't like is Kazarian basically being left out of the series, doesn't really help the storylines to much imo... |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 8, 2012 14:24:22 GMT -5
The reason I went with Styles over Bully was b/c Styles is a face. Its more sympathetic. Also, I figure this could easily transition to a Styles vs. Aries match in the future. And it gets Daniels more over as a top heel. Bully could work in the sense that you have Abyss take him out. So I definitely see where you are coming from and both are good choices. I don't mind Styles being out but I don't see the point of having him getting injured in basically the number 1B storyline in the company and leaving Daniels in the series. One other thing I don't like is Kazarian basically being left out of the series, doesn't really help the storylines to much imo... I went with Styles to further develop this story between he and Daniels. If Daniels and Kaz put him out, it gets them more over. They dont have to ride this out for months, just a month or month and a half. Leaving Daniels in the series should only agitate matters. In fact, Daniels should make it to the final 4 as well and have AJ cost him his chance when he makes his return. As far as Kaz goes.....he is Daniels lackey. Keep him there. I certainly wouldnt mind a return to the X Division down the road, but he aint heavyweight material. For the first time Ive liked what you said. This idea is brilliant. But you know wish in one hand and sh*t in another. TNA will end up having him win too soon and then lose it really quick and then fade into the background. But hey who knows it could be played out well and it could turn into this. With TNA's new direction and better booking as of late....I have faith they wont  this up. However, I still think they are sticking with Storm/Roode BFG....eventhough I think that window closed at Lockdown. |
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Post by Adam on Jul 8, 2012 15:30:03 GMT -5
I think Destination X is too soon for Aries to win - but for a different reason. Obviously they're going for Roode vs. Storm at Bound for Glory, so it doesn't make sense to have Aries win it now. Even if Roode were to regain, he loses a lot of momentum. If he goes into BFG with this long reign, it makes Storm winning a bigger deal. The crowd is still really hot for Storm, so it makes sense to follow through on that payoff.
I probably wouldn't have Aries win it until next year's BFG (or Slammiversary). He's at a great spot right now where he can jump between both the X-Division and the Heavyweight. There are certainly new feuds he can have in the Heavyweight division to further cement his place in TNA; while at the same time occasionally jumping into the X-Division to boost the profile of some of those guys.
They showed Aries talking to Kenny King last week on Impact. Why not have Kenny win the title and Aries lose his match against Roode? Aries goes to King, wanting a match for the belt he relinquished; and King doesn't want to give him one. A feud between them would establish Kenny King in TNA right away.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 8, 2012 16:19:20 GMT -5
Im liking the ideas your putting out man. I think it would be great to have AJ out and the screw Daniels over at the end. I would be pretty upset because that would mean the Roode/Storm fued wouldve been going on close to a year. I mean sure they dont face every show but it gets boring cause you can only do so much with them. I say give Aries the title at BFG only cause hes really great and he proves it every night. Sure storm is good but i dont wanna see Storm vs Roode 24 at BFG. Like you said have Aries come so close tonight and he gets in the BFG series and then its a chase between Aries and Storm to the finals. Id say have the semi finals be Aries vs Kurt and Daniels vs Storm. We get a 5 star match out of aries/angle and we get the AJ screwing over daniels match. Hell they could even have AJ accidentally hit storm and daniels win then we could get Daniels vs aries in the finals. That has a 0% chance though. AJ/Daniels has gone on for a year. I just think this feud kind of settled a bit at Lockdown. Its not like Roode spent weeks goading Storm out of his semi retirement. Storm said he came back to become TNA Champion. Doesnt mean it has to be against Roode. I could see an Aries/Storm 1 offer following BFG and then a triple threat with Storm/Roode/Aries. I think Destination X is too soon for Aries to win - but for a different reason. Obviously they're going for Roode vs. Storm at Bound for Glory, so it doesn't make sense to have Aries win it now. Even if Roode were to regain, he loses a lot of momentum. If he goes into BFG with this long reign, it makes Storm winning a bigger deal. The crowd is still really hot for Storm, so it makes sense to follow through on that payoff. I probably wouldn't have Aries win it until next year's BFG (or Slammiversary). He's at a great spot right now where he can jump between both the X-Division and the Heavyweight. There are certainly new feuds he can have in the Heavyweight division to further cement his place in TNA; while at the same time occasionally jumping into the X-Division to boost the profile of some of those guys. They showed Aries talking to Kenny King last week on Impact. Why not have Kenny win the title and Aries lose his match against Roode? Aries goes to King, wanting a match for the belt he relinquished; and King doesn't want to give him one. A feud between them would establish Kenny King in TNA right away. As long as Roode has had the title....it needs to be something monumental for him to drop the title. He shouldnt just drop it to someone. Storm is hot, BUT I think this Storm/Roode feud reached its climax. I dont think Storm winning the title from Roode or from someone else is going to make much of a difference. I dont think he has to win the BFG series either. Moving Aries back to the X Division is a horrid idea. The guy gave up his X Division title and leaves a division he has dominated for a year for chance at the World Title. He fails, so he goes back to the division he knows he can get the belt back from? Sounds bad for TNA and Aries. |
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Post by Adam on Jul 8, 2012 16:46:15 GMT -5
As long as Roode has had the title....it needs to be something monumental for him to drop the title. He shouldnt just drop it to someone. Storm is hot, BUT I think this Storm/Roode feud reached its climax. I dont think Storm winning the title from Roode or from someone else is going to make much of a difference. I dont think he has to win the BFG series either. I don't know what would qualify as "monumental" right now in TNA, and that's subjective anyway so I'm going to let that sit as it is. I was more making a point that TNA actually has a focus here that people are actually getting behind. I've never been a James Storm guy myself, but TNA's crowds (both in Orlando and not) seem to be behind him. Obviously the crowd is also behind Aries, but that support clearly caught TNA off-guard. Unless they swerve for the sake of swerving, the story is James Storm finally knocking off Bobby Roode. Aries doesn't fit into the story at this point in time. Not saying go "back" for the hell of it, rather that he's one of a few guys (Joe, Styles, Daniels being others) that TNA can believably use as contenders in both divisions if needed. The Heavyweight division is full of established contenders; why not take advantage of Aries' talent to help some of the generally bland X-Division guys get over? |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 8, 2012 22:32:46 GMT -5
As long as Roode has had the title....it needs to be something monumental for him to drop the title. He shouldnt just drop it to someone. Storm is hot, BUT I think this Storm/Roode feud reached its climax. I dont think Storm winning the title from Roode or from someone else is going to make much of a difference. I dont think he has to win the BFG series either. I don't know what would qualify as "monumental" right now in TNA, and that's subjective anyway so I'm going to let that sit as it is. I was more making a point that TNA actually has a focus here that people are actually getting behind. I've never been a James Storm guy myself, but TNA's crowds (both in Orlando and not) seem to be behind him. Obviously the crowd is also behind Aries, but that support clearly caught TNA off-guard. Unless they swerve for the sake of swerving, the story is James Storm finally knocking off Bobby Roode. Aries doesn't fit into the story at this point in time. Not saying go "back" for the hell of it, rather that he's one of a few guys (Joe, Styles, Daniels being others) that TNA can believably use as contenders in both divisions if needed. The Heavyweight division is full of established contenders; why not take advantage of Aries' talent to help some of the generally bland X-Division guys get over? Its all moot now anyway. BUT....the reason you dont move Aries into the X Division is that he just left the X Division. If you wanted to get guys over, they had the last year to do that. Or its something that can be done in the future. OR you get someone who has been away for awhile like an AJ Styles to return to it. |
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Post by Phantom on Jul 8, 2012 23:19:41 GMT -5
I dont know but Aries vs. Styles or Angle at BFG would be one hell of a main event.
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Jul 9, 2012 0:32:54 GMT -5
I dont know but Aries vs. Styles or Angle at BFG would be one hell of a main event. Id rather see Aries vs Hardy or Joe |
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Post by ZT on Jul 9, 2012 9:47:45 GMT -5
Have Aries retain up to Bound for Glory. Roode, as others have suggested, costs James Storm the BFG series so they can have a huge stipulation match at BFG. Joes wins the series and then dethrones Aries, saying it is payback for those years ago when Aries defeated him (which is something he brought up last night) and then have Aries and Joe feud over the title for the rest of the year.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 9, 2012 13:12:39 GMT -5
Have Aries retain up to Bound for Glory. Roode, as others have suggested, costs James Storm the BFG series so they can have a huge stipulation match at BFG. Joes wins the series and then dethrones Aries, saying it is payback for those years ago when Aries defeated him (which is something he brought up last night) and then have Aries and Joe feud over the title for the rest of the year. I like your Roode/Storm idea. I dont like Joe defeating Aries, but I dont doubt that whoever does win the BFG series will win the title. I just think with Aries as champ, you have room to do so much new feuds for the World Title. |
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Post by Gazza on Jul 9, 2012 13:16:41 GMT -5
I just hope he get's a really good title reign, and they don't screw it up like they did for Storm's title reign.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Jul 9, 2012 14:17:54 GMT -5
I think Aries vs Joe at BFG would be amazing, I mean we saw what they could do together at Slammiversary and both of them are on quite a roll!
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jul 9, 2012 18:24:46 GMT -5
Destination X: def. Roode
Hardcore Justice: def. Roode
No Surrender: def. Daniels? maybe or your go-to-top heel that isn't Roode
Bound for Glory: Joe def. Aries for World title
two weeks later on Impact: Joe def. Aries in rematch
Turning Point: def. whomever for X-Division title
Final Resolution: vs. Styles for X-Title
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Jul 9, 2012 20:24:01 GMT -5
Aries needs a long title reign IMO. No point having him drop it early.
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Post by RedwineRaider on Jul 9, 2012 21:18:38 GMT -5
Since they've created a swerve and actually had Aries go over, they need to commit to his reign. Aries needs to keep the strap from now onto BFG. Have him go over Roode at Hardcore Justice after getting his ass whooped for 3/4 the match. They need to sell Roode's frustration and obsession with the title to keep him as hot as he's been lately.
I was at Slammiversary live, and Aries/Joe was my second favorite match of the night. It was so short but they managed to pull out such an incredible match. I want to see more. This needs to happen at BFG. Joe wins the BFG Series after Roode screws Storm. It sets up their final blowoff match to their year long rivalry and allows Joe to walk into BFG as the No. 1 contender. Logically, Aries retains and continues on to a lengthy run as champ.
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Post by Joejitsu22 on Jul 10, 2012 8:26:03 GMT -5
Aries needs a long title reign IMO. No point having him drop it early. except i think it will be short. Maybe lasts one PPV as champ. i think everyone is kidding themselves if they dont think it will be roode vs storm at BFG with Storm going over. I like that hes champ, but the money match is storm vs roode at BFG. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 10, 2012 10:50:46 GMT -5
Aries needs a long title reign IMO. No point having him drop it early. except i think it will be short. Maybe lasts one PPV as champ. i think everyone is kidding themselves if they dont think it will be roode vs storm at BFG with Storm going over. I like that hes champ, but the money match is storm vs roode at BFG. That money match just happened at Lockdown. Storm is hot...but no longer red hot. They blew their load on the feud. |
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