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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 18:11:54 GMT -5
Being that I always root for the Bad Guy... I was just curious...What do you guys rank as your favorite heel turn and also what do you consider as the best and worst Heel Turn of all time for WWE and WCW? WCW Best: Easily Hulk Hogan becoming Hollywood Hogan. Saved Hogan's career. Worst: Goldberg's "amazing" heel run or "The Finger Poke of Death" Favorite: Once Jericho became heel I loved his character for a LONG time. WWE Best: Shawn Michaels turns on Jannetty. This honestly SKYROCKETED Shawn into a superstar and was the best decision to turn a guy heel second only MAYBE to Hulk Hogan Worst: Rikishi did it for The Rock. Easily the most unnecessary heel turn ever and nothing really ever came from this. Favorite: CM Punk cashing in on Jeff Hardy...just flawless. |
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Post by KeBen Owens on Aug 29, 2012 18:18:44 GMT -5
Best: when Rock won the Survivor Series 1998 and joined the cooperation.
Worst: Austin's 2001 heel turn. It just never got over with the fans. He was just too beloved.
Favorite: The 2002 DX reformation tease, only to have HHH pedigree HBK and ignite one of the best(if not the bloodiest) feuds in WWE.
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Post by tg11 on Aug 29, 2012 18:31:24 GMT -5
Best heel turn by far is Hogan, Bash at the Beach 1996 when he ended up turning on WCW by joining the nWo becoming Hollywood Hogan
Worst heel turn was Bret Hart back in 1997 after the I Quit Match with Austin at Mania 13, I felt Bret's heel turn should have happened a whole lot more earlier than 1997 and that his heel turn would have had more of an impact had he turned heel at Survivor Series 1995 or he had turned heel in the build-up towards that PPV
Favorite heel turn has got to be The Rock, turning heel in 2003 after coming back from Hollywood
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 18:35:14 GMT -5
WCW
Best:Hogan @ BATB96.....awesome......
Worst:Nash on the Jan 4th Nitro for the "Fingerpoke of Doom",mind boggling.Nash was as over as hell during his Wolfpac run and they turned him heel for literally no reason.idiocy.
both helped ignite and extinguish WCWs flame.
WWF/E:
Best:HHH at WM15.nobody seen this coming....especially after Chyna had just rejoined DX.the heat this would get him would turn out to be incredible.I was devastated at the time.....couldnt believe it
Worst:
Austins turn at Invasion.the worst tripe imaginable & made ZERO sense.......as bad as the WM turn was this was 50 times worse.jerichio should have been the one that turned.....instant overnight success as a heel.but no Vinnie chose to tarnish his top guy forever.
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Post by 5D's on Aug 29, 2012 18:35:16 GMT -5
My favorite is the CM Punk MITB cash in and series of matches over summer '09. It was subtle and believable, not the kind that one week someone's kissing babies and the next week they're bitching about "each and every one of youuuuu".
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Post by specterkev on Aug 29, 2012 20:39:32 GMT -5
WCW Best:Hogan @ BATB96.....awesome...... Worst:Nash on the Jan 4th Nitro for the "Fingerpoke of Doom",mind boggling.Nash was as over as hell during his Wolfpac run and they turned him heel for literally no reason.idiocy. they had a reason for doing so... they were really goingto push goldberg and needed something big to go agaisnt him,.. so they had the nWo reunite to face off against goldberg as in during his rise,.. he did not get to face off against the nWo at full strength, since by thetime he was a main event player, the nWo had already split up. So they broguht the nWo back as one powerhouse unit.. but goldberg had to be stupid and bash that window with his arm cutting his arm all to hell having to have him sit on the sidelines inujred.. which ruined the whole damn thing. PEople like to bash ther whole finger poke of doom thing saying it caused the downfall of WCW, and that it had no reason to do so.....when in reality, it did...and goldberg killed the whole angle by being stupid and cutting up his arm in that window.. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 20:41:12 GMT -5
Best: Bret Hart - Wrestlemania 13 & The following night on Raw.
Worst: Big Show or Kane. One of theirs. Pick one. Any one.
Favorite: Bret Hart - Wrestlemania 13 & The following night on Raw.
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Post by xtremeperil on Aug 29, 2012 23:45:44 GMT -5
Best has been said and it's Hogan. I don't really see how that can be debated, if we're going off that facts. Worst is probably one of the many pointless ones that happened over the years, there are tons. My favorite is the CM Punk MITB cash in and series of matches over summer '09. It was subtle and believable, not the kind that one week someone's kissing babies and the next week they're bitching about "each and every one of youuuuu". Definitely my favorite too. |
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Aug 29, 2012 23:56:11 GMT -5
Best: Bret Hart at WM 13
Worst: Austin during the Invasion, as stated above Jericho should have been the guy
Favorite: Shawn turning on Hogan. Such a short lived turn but it was shocking as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 6:01:49 GMT -5
WCW Best:Hogan @ BATB96.....awesome...... Worst:Nash on the Jan 4th Nitro for the "Fingerpoke of Doom",mind boggling.Nash was as over as hell during his Wolfpac run and they turned him heel for literally no reason.idiocy. they had a reason for doing so... they were really goingto push goldberg and needed something big to go agaisnt him,.. so they had the nWo reunite to face off against goldberg as in during his rise,.. he did not get to face off against the nWo at full strength, since by thetime he was a main event player, the nWo had already split up. So they broguht the nWo back as one powerhouse unit.. but goldberg had to be stupid and bash that window with his arm cutting his arm all to hell having to have him sit on the sidelines inujred.. which ruined the whole damn thing. PEople like to bash ther whole finger poke of doom thing saying it caused the downfall of WCW, and that it had no reason to do so.....when in reality, it did...and goldberg killed the whole angle by being stupid and cutting up his arm in that window.. LOL I know the reasons......everyone does.(yours are for a different angle)but they shouldnt have turned Nash-it was idiocy.he was super over at this time(moreso than Goldberg)but again Bischoff wasnt watching his own product....he was wrapped up in Vinces. |
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Post by Zeke on Aug 30, 2012 6:46:06 GMT -5
Johnathon Coachman, NO ONE saw that coming.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 7:02:43 GMT -5
Best: Bret's WM13 turn.
Worst: Billy Gunn from The One to Billy/Chuck.
Favorite: Neidhart turning on Bret and joining Owen at KOTR 94.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Aug 30, 2012 8:37:22 GMT -5
Best: CM Punk's turn on Jeff Hardy. It changed Punk's career forever and was probably the catalyst for his popularity last year.
Worst: "Stone Cold"'s heel turn in 2001. Instead of making him less stale, it almost ruined his character forever. The fun about "Stone Cold" was that he beat up everybody. Now that we knew he was only going to beat up certain people, kiss Vince's ass and whine about everything, it took away several important parts of his personality.
Favorite: Mark Henry's heel turn last year. It saved his character and finally put him in the main-event scene.
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Post by BasedGod on Aug 30, 2012 10:44:49 GMT -5
The double turn at UFC 151 with Bones Jones and Sonnen was probably the best one since WM13.
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Post by ohernan6 on Aug 30, 2012 11:41:58 GMT -5
My favorite is still Scott Steiner's turn on hi brother. And then... the Big Bad Booty Daddy was born!  |
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Post by tg11 on Aug 30, 2012 13:45:09 GMT -5
Best: Chris Jericho turning heel in 2008 turning on Shawn Michaels by ramming his head into the Jeri-Tron 5000, basically revived Jericho's career and made him one of the top heels in the company at that time
Worst: Christian's heel turn in 2011 because I felt his heel turn could have been much better if they made him a much more ruthless, psychotic heel in terms of being more vicious and aggressive in the ring but they made him a whiny heel
Favorite: Batista's heel turn at Bragging Rights 2009 turning heel on Rey by attacking him, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MY FRIEND!!!!!!
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Post by fearofdread on Aug 30, 2012 18:41:08 GMT -5
WCW Best:Hogan @ BATB96.....awesome...... Worst:Nash on the Jan 4th Nitro for the "Fingerpoke of Doom",mind boggling.Nash was as over as hell during his Wolfpac run and they turned him heel for literally no reason.idiocy. they had a reason for doing so... they were really goingto push goldberg and needed something big to go agaisnt him,.. so they had the nWo reunite to face off against goldberg as in during his rise,.. he did not get to face off against the nWo at full strength, since by thetime he was a main event player, the nWo had already split up. So they broguht the nWo back as one powerhouse unit.. but goldberg had to be stupid and bash that window with his arm cutting his arm all to hell having to have him sit on the sidelines inujred.. which ruined the whole damn thing. PEople like to bash ther whole finger poke of doom thing saying it caused the downfall of WCW, and that it had no reason to do so.....when in reality, it did...and goldberg killed the whole angle by being stupid and cutting up his arm in that window.. You have the goldberg window angle off by 1 full year. He smashed the window during the Black and Silver NWO in 2000 and the Powers that Be angle. He would be out 6 months and return just for the closing of 2000 and the rebirth and final death in 2001. Hulk Hogan got injured during the NWO Red and White stuff in 1999, and by the end of summer it was all over. Hogan came back Red and Yellow, Nash and Hall were cool faces again so most of the possible come-uppance for NWO was given away during the next few months. Then Bischoff was relieved of duty, Russo was put in charge and everything went to pot. As for the best/worst/Favorite Best- Hogan at BATB and Savage breaking up the Mega-Powers Worst- Bret Hart's WCW/NWO turn. He just wasn't cool enough to be the leader of that new NWO. Favorite- Andre turning on Hogan and joining the Brain before WM3 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 19:36:26 GMT -5
oh God I had forgotten about Brets WCWs heel turns......utter rubbish
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 19:53:04 GMT -5
Best: Shawn intimidating Marty Jannetty so badly that Marty tried to dive through a window to escape. Everyone saw the split coming but the way it was done really made it stand out.
Worst: Tugboat betraying the Bushwhackers in a 6 man to join Jimmy Hart. Why not have him betray the L.O.D. or at least a team people might have considered a threat to the Nasty Boys, the Bushwhackers... really?
Favorite: My favorite is Shawn breaking up the Rockers. They were my favorite team and he really showed he could hang with the best early on.
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