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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Oct 28, 2012 23:39:50 GMT -5
When I said Ryback didn't come out looking strong, I mean from here on out, not in the match it self. He looked strong in the match. But from here on out, he'll be the same old Ryback on Raw beating jobbers. If he didn't have this match, we would be thinking "man when Ryback gets his hands on a WWE title match, he's going to win for sure". But now we know, that when he does get a WWE title match, he's beatable, and all it takes is one cheap shot. Yeah... because we need another unbeatable face, like Cena.
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Post by Lk™ on Oct 28, 2012 23:42:37 GMT -5
When I said Ryback didn't come out looking strong, I mean from here on out, not in the match it self. He looked strong in the match. But from here on out, he'll be the same old Ryback on Raw beating jobbers. If he didn't have this match, we would be thinking "man when Ryback gets his hands on a WWE title match, he's going to win for sure". But now we know, that when he does get a WWE title match, he's beatable, and all it takes is one cheap shot. No, he isn't beatable. Punk, the champ, had the match lost and the ref screwed Ryback. How does that make Ryback look weak. this is what people will remember
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 28, 2012 23:45:48 GMT -5
When I said Ryback didn't come out looking strong, I mean from here on out, not in the match it self. He looked strong in the match. But from here on out, he'll be the same old Ryback on Raw beating jobbers. If he didn't have this match, we would be thinking "man when Ryback gets his hands on a WWE title match, he's going to win for sure". But now we know, that when he does get a WWE title match, he's beatable, and all it takes is one cheap shot. No, he isn't beatable. Punk, the champ, had the match lost and the ref screwed Ryback. How does that make Ryback look weak. this is what people will remember He is beatable, he got beat didn't he?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Oct 28, 2012 23:47:42 GMT -5
I liked the way it ended, it kept Ryback strong, but Punk keeps the title. I liked it more because it was something I didn't predict would happen.
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 28, 2012 23:51:48 GMT -5
I'm even disapointed in Punk. This was definitely the worst main event PPV match in his reign.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 23:54:04 GMT -5
No, he isn't beatable. Punk, the champ, had the match lost and the ref screwed Ryback. How does that make Ryback look weak. this is what people will remember He is beatable, he got beat didn't he? By a referee low blow and a fast count...How does that make him look beatable, if you need a screwjob to do it?
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 28, 2012 23:55:21 GMT -5
He is beatable, he got beat didn't he? By a referee low blow and a fast count...How does that make him look beatable, if you need a screwjob to do it? It makes him look beatable, because he got BEAT.
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Post by Lk™ on Oct 28, 2012 23:58:49 GMT -5
By a referee low blow and a fast count...How does that make him look beatable, if you need a screwjob to do it? It makes him look beatable, because he got BEAT. you're missing the point. i'm a huge punk mark, and i know that what they did tonight was best for both.
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 29, 2012 0:02:25 GMT -5
It makes him look beatable, because he got BEAT. you're missing the point. i'm a huge punk mark, and i know that what they did tonight was best for both. Ryback didn't have to get beat, and Punk didn't have to lose the title. They could have been more creative.
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Post by Fleet Foxes on Oct 29, 2012 0:04:39 GMT -5
No, he isn't beatable. Punk, the champ, had the match lost and the ref screwed Ryback. How does that make Ryback look weak. this is what people will remember He is beatable, he got beat didn't he? by a super fast three count
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Post by King Silva on Oct 29, 2012 0:05:52 GMT -5
The match was too short however I understand that they wanted Ryback to lose by being screwed over but still end the night by having Ryback look strong. That was certainly accomplished so I guess it is as good as it can get without Ryback winning the belt. Still they would seemingly have to let Ryback have another title shot because this one was so not fair. When/if they do that then that is where he may have to actually lose..
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 29, 2012 0:06:59 GMT -5
Ryback got beat. Anyone who argues that just doesn't make sense. He got beat, beat, BEAT. Before you hit the quote button, think twice, because there is no argument to the statement "Ryback got beat."
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Oct 29, 2012 0:09:17 GMT -5
Ryback's streak means nothing. It's all about positioning. Ryback, despite the loss, was positioned as a big time player tonight. He dominated the champion and it took a low blow AND a fast count for him to be beat. He stood tall in the end.
Sorry to break it to you, but wins and losses mean nothing in professional wrestling!
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Post by Edge618 on Oct 29, 2012 0:12:52 GMT -5
Ryback's streak means nothing. It's all about positioning. Ryback, despite the loss, was positioned as a big time player tonight. He dominated the champion and it took a low blow AND a fast count for him to be beat. He stood tall in the end. Sorry to break it to you, but wins and losses mean nothing in professional wrestling! But if he's positioned as a big time player, then I expect to see him positioned at the top of cards. But he won't be. So how is he positioned as a big time player? If he continues to be in the main event then I will eat crow, but if not then this PPV really did nothing for him. They best thing for them IMO would be to build toward Ryback vs. Show at Mania, Ryback hitting the shell shock on Show, if possible, would be a moment in itself, and then THAT moment would be the one that positioned him as a big time player. Not tonight.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Oct 29, 2012 0:15:50 GMT -5
I liked the ending even though punk looked like a cowardly heel............................again. And why shouldn't he? That's the whole point of being a heel. Being all "cool" & "BADASS!!!!111asdf" shouldn't be heel qualities.
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Post by Phantom on Oct 29, 2012 0:17:25 GMT -5
Ryback's record is now officially at 35-1. Its time to see if he will sink or swim. I believe he will prevail. Him vs. Big Show is destined to happen. Oh, and I'm glad Punk won and I hope this leads to something for Maddox. Hes solid in the ring and an excellent talker.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Oct 29, 2012 0:32:23 GMT -5
I liked the ending even though punk looked like a cowardly heel............................again. And why shouldn't he? That's the whole point of being a heel. Being all "cool" & "BADASS!!!!111asdf" shouldn't be heel qualities. Why not?
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Oct 29, 2012 0:32:31 GMT -5
Ryback's streak means nothing. It's all about positioning. Ryback, despite the loss, was positioned as a big time player tonight. He dominated the champion and it took a low blow AND a fast count for him to be beat. He stood tall in the end. Sorry to break it to you, but wins and losses mean nothing in professional wrestling! But if he's positioned as a big time player, then I expect to see him positioned at the top of cards. But he won't be. So how is he positioned as a big time player? If he continues to be in the main event then I will eat crow, but if not then this PPV really did nothing for him. They best thing for them IMO would be to build toward Ryback vs. Show at Mania, Ryback hitting the shell shock on Show, if possible, would be a moment in itself, and then THAT moment would be the one that positioned him as a big time player. Not tonight. How can you be so sure that Ryback is going to fall off the table here? Punk/Maddox/Heyman screwed him. He's not going to just let that go. Also, it definitely looks like Cena and Ziggler are going to be feuding, so Punk will need an opponent for Survivor Series. The Ryback is going to continue to be a featured star on Raw. Don't worry. Let things play out before you jump to such rash conclusions.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Oct 29, 2012 0:33:46 GMT -5
But if he's positioned as a big time player, then I expect to see him positioned at the top of cards. But he won't be. So how is he positioned as a big time player? If he continues to be in the main event then I will eat crow, but if not then this PPV really did nothing for him. They best thing for them IMO would be to build toward Ryback vs. Show at Mania, Ryback hitting the shell shock on Show, if possible, would be a moment in itself, and then THAT moment would be the one that positioned him as a big time player. Not tonight. How can you be so sure that Ryback is going to fall off the table here? Punk/Maddox/Heyman screwed him. He's not going to just let that go. Also, it definitely looks like Cena and Ziggler are going to be feuding, so Punk will need an opponent for Survivor Series. The Ryback is going to continue to be a featured star on Raw. Don't worry. Let things play out before you jump to such rash conclusions. BUT RYBACK GOT BEAT. GET IT? B-E-A-T. BEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT. Instead of "Feed me more", people will chant "Beat me more".
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Oct 29, 2012 0:34:17 GMT -5
And why shouldn't he? That's the whole point of being a heel. Being all "cool" & "BADASS!!!!111asdf" shouldn't be heel qualities. Why not? Are Joker and Bane not beloved characters, even if they are "heels?" When Punk was the badass heel last summer, everyone loved him and he was getting cheered. So, he became a face. The only way Punk is going to be a bad guy is if he plays the coward. And WWE needs him to be bad when he faces Rock.
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