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Post by Nick the Quick on Nov 8, 2012 14:47:02 GMT -5
Vegas Employer: Obama Won, So I Fired 22 Employees lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/vegas-employer-obama-won-so-i-fired-22-employees/This is an article about an employer in Las Vegas getting rid of 22 employees because of Obama being re-elected. I'm no expert by any means, but isn't it illegal, on the grounds of wrongful termination, to fire employees in this circumstance? The article goes on about Obamacare and its cost, which the owner uses to cover up his actions as best he can. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 14:51:33 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that it's illegal. Unless he gives them some form of severance pay.
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Post by /X Metal Sorenges x "Mac Oh J~ on Nov 8, 2012 14:51:53 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it's illegal since it is that owner's company and he is entitled to his employees, corporation polities etc. But it isn't by any means the right thing to do.
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Post by Kliquid on Nov 8, 2012 14:57:19 GMT -5
Of course it's legal for him to decide to get rid of employees.
You're going to see this happen across the country once ObamaCare has been fully implemented.
Welcome to what happens when you massively increase the cost of business.
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Post by T R W on Nov 8, 2012 15:02:31 GMT -5
It isn't discrimination, so I don't see any illegality in it. Companies lay people off due to rising costs and what not. He didn't fire them because Obama won and because they voted for him. He laid them off because of the likely increase in operating costs for his company. I'll be honest with you, companies are doing this all over the country right now, including where I work. A lot of places also have hiring freezes in effect, bonus freezes, income freezes, and are just flat out either laying off people or not filling positions simply because they are waiting for the impact of Obamacare, and they want to see how much it will impact their profits. Whenever you tax businesses more, or increase their costs by requiring they provide certain types of healthcare, the costs will always be put back on the workers or customer. Usually both.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Nov 8, 2012 16:50:14 GMT -5
Don't see any illegality in it at all either. The guy claims he's cutting costs. He has every right in the world to do that. Unless you can prove that he fired the employees for the reasons covered under law - race, gender, age, religion, etc.... Then what he did is perfectly legal.
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Post by Quanthor on Nov 8, 2012 17:20:50 GMT -5
How long would it have taken Romney to abolish Obamacare if he would have been elected? could he have done it in two years? Would republicans need the senate to approve it? Would this guy still have to fire 22 just in case?
It seems like this guy is trying to make a public statement by doing this. "I told you so, elections have consequences". I can see businesses having concerns, making cuts, freezes, etc because of the uncertainty of the future, but firing people in a public way just hours after an election is preposterous. I'd love hear stories from the fired folk.
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Post by JC Motors on Nov 9, 2012 11:29:00 GMT -5
Yes I would say so
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Nov 9, 2012 12:45:37 GMT -5
It definitely is not illegal and if he is doing it because he needs to cut costs then that's how it has to be. It sucks for the employees but that's life.
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Post by hbkrules on Nov 9, 2012 14:19:09 GMT -5
You don't have a right to a particular job if that employer doesn't want to pay the expenses. Lots of small businesses are laying off employees to get under 50 so that obamacare won't apply to their businesses.
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Post by CM Poor on Nov 9, 2012 15:03:27 GMT -5
Nevada's an at-will state. Not illegal.
As for everyone crying foul about this, take a minute to back track. What's the sole purpose of entering into a business? To turn a profit. You turn a profit by reducing your costs. This happens every day - it happened under Bush (three times to me, in fact), it happened under Obama, and unless the economy gets a serious kick in the a**, it'll likely happen under whoever's next.
In business, you've got to owe up to speculation and forecasts.
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Post by HHH316 on Nov 9, 2012 15:31:20 GMT -5
Seems legal to me. It sucks, but the guy is trying to run a business. I just think he might have gone about it in the wrong way. He comes across like he's trying to make an example by using his own employees
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Post by King Silva on Nov 9, 2012 15:39:02 GMT -5
I don't see how it can be deemed illegal. Sucks for the 22 people though.  |
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Post by hbkrules on Nov 9, 2012 18:04:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 5:33:17 GMT -5
Firing just because Obama won? Probably illegal.
Firing because of cost cutting measures from Obamacare? Perfectly legal.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Nov 10, 2012 14:16:33 GMT -5
Not illegal at all, but to pin it squarely on Obama is making a political statement at the expense of the people you've fired. And that's not illegal either, but it does speak to the quality of person the boss is.
Regardless of his politics, if the boss were a decent person, he'd have tempered his comments to be as sensitive as possible to the people and families affected by his choice, and not as an "Obama got re-elected so I'm killing the hostages in retaliation" stunt.
Protecting profit is absolutely his right; turning it into an ugly, spiteful political statement was unfortunate and totally avoidable by the boss.
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I dont know good luck 
