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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Nov 21, 2012 19:32:27 GMT -5
You'll learn quick around here, you can please some of the people some of the time, and all the people... nah, you cant please this lot Push CM Punk! -Year Long title reign- They're making his character stale! Where's the Tag Team Division!? -PTP, Rey and Cara, Rhodes Scholars, Hell No, Kidd and Gabe - I hate all these thrown together tag teams! Push New talent! -Pushes Ryback- he's too "green!" Bring back the attitude era -make heart attack joke- That was distasteful!
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Post by alexgg on Nov 21, 2012 19:36:19 GMT -5
People will always point out the negatives over the positives in anything.
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Nov 21, 2012 19:52:51 GMT -5
Where's the Tag Team Division!? -PTP, Rey and Cara, Rhodes Scholars, Hell No, Kidd and Gabe - I hate all these thrown together tag teams! Push New talent! -Pushes Ryback- he's too "green!" Bring back the attitude era -make heart attack joke- That was distasteful! 1. Thrown together tag teams always suck. It's ridiculous to think that passes for building a tag team division in 2012. 2. Ryback is green, and that's absurd too considering how long he's been in the business. He's also incredibly dangerous in the ring & hasn't taken to bumping properly. 3. As someone who has seen my grandfather go through 3 heart attacks and the suffering that comes from said heart attack I thought it was very distasteful & accomplished nothing in terms of the wrestling end of things. The attitude era had angles that hit home and mattered, making you want to tune in the following week. Until I read your comment on the angle, I had forgotten it even happened in the course of last week's show.
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Post by Starscream on Nov 21, 2012 20:36:54 GMT -5
If you compare this place to the other ones around the internet....this is the most positive and polite wrestling forum in history...
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Nov 21, 2012 20:41:35 GMT -5
Where's the Tag Team Division!? -PTP, Rey and Cara, Rhodes Scholars, Hell No, Kidd and Gabe - I hate all these thrown together tag teams! Push New talent! -Pushes Ryback- he's too "green!" Bring back the attitude era -make heart attack joke- That was distasteful! 1. Thrown together tag teams always suck. It's ridiculous to think that passes for building a tag team division in 2012. 2. Ryback is green, and that's absurd too considering how long he's been in the business. He's also incredibly dangerous in the ring & hasn't taken to bumping properly. 3. As someone who has seen my grandfather go through 3 heart attacks and the suffering that comes from said heart attack I thought it was very distasteful & accomplished nothing in terms of the wrestling end of things. The attitude era had angles that hit home and mattered, making you want to tune in the following week. Until I read your comment on the angle, I had forgotten it even happened in the course of last week's show. 1) some of the best tag teams are thrown together, the IWC's golden boy was praised to hell for Edge and Jericho and ShowMiz. The Prime Time Players are an amazing charismatic team that are actually entertaining, and I'm not the only person who thinks that Team Hell No are carrying SmackDown! at the moment 2) Ryback was an example, you also have guys like Del Rio and Sheamus who rose to the top very quickly. 3) Heart problems run in my family, my nan suffered one too. It was obvious the way the segment was cut that all parties that it'd effect were happy to be a part of the angle.
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Nov 22, 2012 2:17:46 GMT -5
1) some of the best tag teams are thrown together, the IWC's golden boy was praised to hell for Edge and Jericho and ShowMiz. The Prime Time Players are an amazing charismatic team that are actually entertaining, and I'm not the only person who thinks that Team Hell No are carrying SmackDown! at the moment Who is this golden boy you speak of? I'd be a lot better at answering your comment when I find out. ShowMiz was horrible, because it featured one of the most over played characters on the WWE roster, Big Show in yet another uninteresting role. As for Team Hell No, It's just another revolting example of poor booking crippling a guy's career forever. 2) Ryback was an example, you also have guys like Del Rio and Sheamus who rose to the top very quickly. 3) Heart problems run in my family, my nan suffered one too. It was obvious the way the segment was cut that all parties that it'd effect were happy to be a part of the angle. The segment was pitched to the talent that day all of which went to Lawler to ask for permission. It's still not an angle that belonged in wrestling.
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Post by hbkjason on Nov 22, 2012 2:55:42 GMT -5
As a fan for over 20 year I actually think the in ring product is fine. I really enjoyed the Survivor Series for example, but the characters and story lines are just so boring. Its just so middle of the road average why should I really care about any of these characters.
I know a lot of the newer fans hate how us older guys always go back to the Attitude era, but back then a guy like Hardcore Holly had more of a personality, character and a purpose than the majority of the mid card roster right now.
People make the mistake of thinking the reason we all loved the Attitude era was because of the blood, swearing and naked chicks, but the truth is we loved the characters back then and we loved the story's and situations these characters would be in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 4:31:37 GMT -5
If you compare this place to the other ones around the internet....this is the most positive and polite wrestling forum in history... I see it on youtube alot
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Post by marino13 on Nov 22, 2012 9:24:19 GMT -5
Where's the Tag Team Division!? -PTP, Rey and Cara, Rhodes Scholars, Hell No, Kidd and Gabe - I hate all these thrown together tag teams! Push New talent! -Pushes Ryback- he's too "green!" Bring back the attitude era -make heart attack joke- That was distasteful! 1. Thrown together tag teams always suck. It's ridiculous to think that passes for building a tag team division in 2012. Wasn't the New Age Outlaws once a thrown together team? Weren't the Rock & Roll Express thrown together in Memphis because neither guy had anything going for them? Point being most of the greatest teams of all time were thrown together at some point by a promoter. Some worked some didn't. Just cause you didn't see them till they had become established doesn't mean that they always intended to be a team. And in this day & age without the territories WWE doesn't have anyone who could trial & error a team for them. So you might as well get used to it being this way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 9:35:11 GMT -5
Because this forum is full of people who are going to bitch and moan no matter what
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Post by sideeffect on Nov 22, 2012 9:35:24 GMT -5
Where's the Tag Team Division!? -PTP, Rey and Cara, Rhodes Scholars, Hell No, Kidd and Gabe - I hate all these thrown together tag teams! Push New talent! -Pushes Ryback- he's too "green!" Bring back the attitude era -make heart attack joke- That was distasteful! 1. Thrown together tag teams always suck. It's ridiculous to think that passes for building a tag team division in 2012. 2. Ryback is green, and that's absurd too considering how long he's been in the business. He's also incredibly dangerous in the ring & hasn't taken to bumping properly. 3. As someone who has seen my grandfather go through 3 heart attacks and the suffering that comes from said heart attack I thought it was very distasteful & accomplished nothing in terms of the wrestling end of things. The attitude era had angles that hit home and mattered, making you want to tune in the following week. Until I read your comment on the angle, I had forgotten it even happened in the course of last week's show. Don't you watch television shows like House for example? They have characters with illnesses in every show...are they offending you too when someone has a heart condition on the show or has a heart attack?! or how about if a character has cancer?! does that offend you too? Lighten up...its entertainment...in the Attitude Era WWE did A LOT more distasteful angles and segments and fans loved it...now people are just a bunch of pansies that can't take it when WWE adds a little "attitude" or "edge", and at the same time beg and plead for WWE to do something edgy. Well, that was a taste, and look how you people reacted. WWE pushing the envelop in this day and age will not work, so they might as well just play it safe.
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Post by buffdaddy88 on Nov 22, 2012 11:46:10 GMT -5
Because today's WWE sucks compared to past product. Too many "who cares" boring wrestlers, bad story lines, very few "Wow" moments. Heck even Vince had to come out and get involved with Punk to boost ratings. Nowadays I just DVR and zip to certain parts I want to watch.
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Post by sideeffect on Nov 22, 2012 13:15:19 GMT -5
Because today's WWE sucks compared to past product. Too many "who cares" boring wrestlers, bad story lines, very few "Wow" moments. Heck even Vince had to come out and get involved with Punk to boost ratings. Nowadays I just DVR and zip to certain parts I want to watch. Nostalgia goggles? Let me guess you were in your pre-teens when watching the Attitude era and thought everything was real..now hating the WWE is the cool thing to do. WWE is trying to cater a new generation of fans, let them enjoy. Attitude era had its fair share of awful storylines - actually some of the most embarrassing moments came from the attitude era, but people look past that and put it on some pedestal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 13:29:57 GMT -5
The Attitude Era was way more bloody of course than these days but perhaps if WWE 2011/12 didn't waste their time on trying to get The Rock or Brock Lesner to return they could get a pretty recent story line going on.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Nov 23, 2012 14:52:41 GMT -5
Because here on the Internet, "now" sucks, "now" will always suck, and nothing can ever be as good as it was before or will be in the future.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Nov 23, 2012 16:35:53 GMT -5
Because today's WWE sucks compared to past product. Too many "who cares" boring wrestlers, bad story lines, very few "Wow" moments. Heck even Vince had to come out and get involved with Punk to boost ratings. Nowadays I just DVR and zip to certain parts I want to watch. Nostalgia goggles? Let me guess you were in your pre-teens when watching the Attitude era and thought everything was real..now hating the WWE is the cool thing to do. WWE is trying to cater a new generation of fans, let them enjoy. Attitude era had its fair share of awful storylines - actually some of the most embarrassing moments came from the attitude era, but people look past that and put it on some pedestal. Obviously people here don't remember Undertaker and Paul Bearer kidnapping Steve Austin from the hospital and trying to enbalm him alive.
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Post by WalterF on Nov 25, 2012 1:32:58 GMT -5
I think there is alot of good still going on with the current WWE, but it's a bit like your favorite restaurant switching to cheaper ingredients and taking alot of your favorite items off the menu.
I know many feel the Attitude Era is overrated, and I try to be objective, but on a WHOLE, the business was moving so fast and was so innovative and fresh during those days, largely because of the threat of losing the company. The WWE didn't rest on any laurels and took risks and evolved .... nowadays it seems like WWE knows it's making money and doing okay enough as is and I don't think the urgency or innovative edge is in place anymore.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Nov 25, 2012 6:22:49 GMT -5
Some people take wrestling way too seriously. Especially the hardcore indy fans. They act like a bunch of elitist pricks when it comes to WWE, but they way they over analyze something that isn't real is really sad and pathetic. Sure, the WWE has it's faults, but Jesus Christ, to get all up in arms about certain things like they do is ridiculous.
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Nov 26, 2012 19:14:19 GMT -5
1. Thrown together tag teams always suck. It's ridiculous to think that passes for building a tag team division in 2012. Wasn't the New Age Outlaws once a thrown together team? Weren't the Rock & Roll Express thrown together in Memphis because neither guy had anything going for them? Point being most of the greatest teams of all time were thrown together at some point by a promoter. Some worked some didn't. Just cause you didn't see them till they had become established doesn't mean that they always intended to be a team. And in this day & age without the territories WWE doesn't have anyone who could trial & error a team for them. So you might as well get used to it being this way. The difference between a thrown together tag team and your two examples are plentiful. First and foremost the NAO and Rock N Rolls had a gimmick between the two that made them some sort of commonality. Teams like Big Show & Miz for example or Big Show & Jericho had what gimmick or trend in common? Same can be said for teams like Ryder & Marella(what is their gimmick, being viewed as laughing stocks by the writers?) and Rhodes & Sandow(who is so good at his gimmick he should not be stuck in a team that will go nowhere). The Prime Time Players for example, dress alike, they have the same personalities for a team, that's a tag team. Same with the Uso's or Colon's, but just because they wear masks does not make Sin Cara & Mysterio a "tag team".
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Nov 26, 2012 19:16:38 GMT -5
Some people take wrestling way too seriously. Especially the hardcore indy fans. They act like a bunch of elitist pricks when it comes to WWE, but they way they over analyze something that isn't real is really sad and pathetic. Sure, the WWE has it's faults, but Jesus Christ, to get all up in arms about certain things like they do is ridiculous. As one of those so called hardcore indy fans, I view WWE for what it is, the Applebees of pro wrestling. I'd rather eat at a local mom and pop joint than a corporate chain restaurant. The food is decent, not great but when it's cooked in a small unique place it's usually better.
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