TheBadGuyChico
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Dec 3, 2012 18:21:30 GMT -5
Anyone else just not excited about wrestling and it has nothing to do with the rating?
WWE could be TV-MA or even TV-Y and it would still be really boring to me.
The last time i ordered a ppv was Summerslam for Lesnar/HHH of course. I was very happy with that main event, exactly the kind've matches that draw me in.
I just feel like the star power is at an all time low in WWE.
To their credit the WWE is building stars but none are of any interest to me.
I loved 2009's main events. Alot of Cena,HHH,Orton,Hardy,Jericho,Edge,Undertaker,Kane,Batista, and HBK.
Thats a roster of guys that i can watch on a regular basis week to week.
Sheamus,Ryback,Punk, and Cena just aren't enough for me and i'm a big Cena fan.
Anyone else just really bored with the lack of big stars in the mix and big blockbuster main events?
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Post by LtD73 on Dec 3, 2012 18:33:41 GMT -5
The Rock vs John Cena didn't have a big fight feel? The crowd popped at the opening bell
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Post by ohernan6 on Dec 3, 2012 18:36:26 GMT -5
I agree and i believe the reason is that, aside from Cena, they don't present their current stars as big names or on the same level as the part-timers (Rock, Lesnar, HHH, etc).
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Post by LeighD on Dec 3, 2012 18:37:08 GMT -5
The last "Big Feel" match for me was Cena vs. Rock. Before that, the last thing I was excited about in the WWE was WrestleMania 26. Before that I'd say.......maybe WrestleMania 23.
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Post by Darkhawk on Dec 3, 2012 18:39:37 GMT -5
The Last big feel for me in the WWE was "Jericho vs Cm Punk" and "Undertaker vs Triple H with Shawn Micheals as Special Referee" at Wrestlemania 28 and that's about it.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Dec 3, 2012 18:40:26 GMT -5
The Rock vs John Cena didn't have a big fight feel? The crowd popped at the opening bell I loved this match! Just like i said i liked HHH vs Lesnar. My point is, matches like this don't happen often enough now. Something like Rock vs Cena isn't a great example, it's so big it should only happen at Wrestlemania. But something like HHH vs Lesnar could afford to happen alot more often, especially with ppvs being $45. I'm not paying $45 for Sheamus or Ryback. |
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Dec 3, 2012 18:42:24 GMT -5
Ya over the last few years their has been very few matches that really gave me that big time feel.Really the only ones have been Undertaker's matches at Wrestlemania and Cena/Punk at MITB '11.The lack of start power is at and all time low or damn near close to it.In my eyes their only five guys that are legit main eventers and bankable stars in Cena,Punk,Sheamus,Orton and Mysterio.With Cena and Punk being the two top dogs.
But I think that theirs a ton of talent on the roster and a lot of good young talent its just really hard to fill the void of guys like HBK,Triple H,Taker,Hardy,Jericho,Batista,Flair,Edge...ect and all of the big named main eventers that have left over the last four years or so.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Dec 3, 2012 18:42:55 GMT -5
I agree and i believe the reason is that, aside from Cena, they don't present their current stars as big names or on the same level as the part-timers (Rock, Lesnar, HHH, etc). Great point here! They only use the part timers on the huge cards like Wrestlemania and Summerslam, where the current guys take a big backseat. That doesn't make the current crop of stars look very important. |
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Post by Duke Silver on Dec 3, 2012 18:57:37 GMT -5
The last "big" genuine fight to me was Undertaker/Shawn from wm25. I dont really blame WWE for the lack of big stars because alot of guys left, retired, etc. Batista, Edge, Shawn, Undertaker, Jericho, and Hunter are not in the scene anymore. So it's slow built process to find guys who actually want it bad enough to be at the top spot, ex. CM Punk. There doesn't seem to be enough guys who are willing to go against the sharks in the sea like back in the day when Rock, Hunter, Austin, Foley, Taker, Angle, etc. were always wanting to be the 'man.'
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Post by Scott! on Dec 3, 2012 18:59:06 GMT -5
Taker and trips at mania 28 were great in terms of crowd reaction and tha famous "big match feel".
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Post by King Clayton of the MidWest on Dec 3, 2012 19:03:33 GMT -5
The Rock returning got me back into watching WWE more now.
Besides that, I feel wrestling will be wrestling. Except that one Raw with the back & fourth of Punk, Lee, and Bryan....god that was a horrible show!
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Post by 500DaysofNight on Dec 3, 2012 20:26:50 GMT -5
Not to mention the fact that everyone on the main roster (not counting part timers and recently debuted wrestlers) have already wrestled each other numerous times.
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Post by WMWanimations on Dec 3, 2012 20:32:02 GMT -5
I honestly feel that if they were able to build up matches better then they do now, the matches would have a better feel despite who is in it. They just show hundreds of replays of 2-3 events that happened in a month long rivalry, and its just dull and repetitive. If they had some sick promos or vignettes that were artsy and crap, they would add a little more speculation to the rivalry. If they showed a few more crude attacks between fighters, or just used some different video packages every once in a while, the matches would look more built up. But no, they have to recap the same crap over and over.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 20:36:58 GMT -5
I felt that Punk vs. Ryback at Hell In A Cell felt like a big match. Don't know what it was. Punk/Cena always has that big match feel to me. Sheamus isn't there yet where a match that involves him has that big match feel.
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Post by Chip on Dec 3, 2012 20:51:34 GMT -5
There's always a few sprinkled in. But they miss the boat on a TON.
Think something simple as Daniel Bryan vs. Rey Mysterio.
I actually had no idea those 2 had never faced off. Then they go and waste it on a meaningless throwaway RAW match. Think about how great a build up that could have been between those 2. One of the all time greatest against a future great star in the business.
The WWE is too focused on the "quick payoff" than the long term build, and the product suffers for it. Sadly it's not about to change any time soon
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Post by Mr. Show on Dec 3, 2012 22:17:15 GMT -5
There's always a few sprinkled in. But they miss the boat on a TON. Think something simple as Daniel Bryan vs. Rey Mysterio. I actually had no idea those 2 had never faced off. Then they go and waste it on a meaningless throwaway RAW match. Think about how great a build up that could have been between those 2. One of the all time greatest against a future great star in the business. The WWE is too focused on the "quick payoff" than the long term build, and the product suffers for it. Sadly it's not about to change any time soon Speaking of that, I really hate that they wasted Jericho vs. Undertaker a couple years ago on Smackdown. The two had never had a match before in the ten years since Jericho came to WWE, they honestly could have built a Wrestlemania-level feud between them, but they just wasted it all on a throwaway match on Smackdown. |
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Post by Irish Wrestling Entertainment on Dec 3, 2012 22:53:30 GMT -5
In my opinion, it's a mixture of this: I agree and i believe the reason is that, aside from Cena, they don't present their current stars as big names or on the same level as the part-timers (Rock, Lesnar, HHH, etc). And this: Not to mention the fact that everyone on the main roster (not counting part timers and recently debuted wrestlers) have already wrestled each other numerous times. And the fact that the commentators are incredibly poor. |
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Post by J12 on Dec 3, 2012 23:22:10 GMT -5
I think the "big fight feel" moments are a lot more rare these days, but they still occur.
Triple H/Undertaker from this year's Wrestlemania felt huge, as did their match last year. Both Undertaker/Shawn Michaels matches as well.
Same goes for Cena/Lesnar, and Triple H/Lesnar.
To me, Cena/Punk always has a big fight feel. Their match at Money in the Bank genuinely felt like one of the most important matches of the decade, and I believe it was. I ordered that show simply because I felt like as a wrestling fan, you simply could not miss it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 23:48:45 GMT -5
its because we see the same thing almost every week.
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Post by mrdoombringer on Dec 4, 2012 2:21:04 GMT -5
4 big matches
cena vs rock
cena vs brock
hhh vs taker hiac
royal rumble
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cena vs ziggler for the mitb in a ladder match is going to be sick cena always delivers on ppv main events and with ziggler and the stipulation of the mitb i believe it will be the main event and ryberg and punk will take a backseat
cena vs ziggler for the mitb in a ladder match is a big fight feel imo these are the kind of matches that made me want to buy ppvs when i was younger
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