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Post by Lithium on Dec 8, 2012 21:53:38 GMT -5
For a few years now and arguably before that as well, Survivor Series has seen a slump in quality, importance and fan interest due to being watered down so heavily. Survivor Series used to be a huge event that showcased some of the most important happenings in wrestling, such as the debuts of Undertaker and The Rock to match types like the Elimination Chamber, as well huge tag-team matches. What are ways to bring this struggling pay-per-view event back to prominence?
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Post by MizTV on Dec 8, 2012 22:00:59 GMT -5
I think it is the lack of the big traditional 5 vs 5 match.
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Post by HHH316 on Dec 8, 2012 22:07:55 GMT -5
You have a WWE &/or world title match, & then nothing but traditional Survivor Series matches. Take it back to its roots.
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Post by Lithium on Dec 8, 2012 22:19:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree with both you. I think they should go back to going all out with it, like debuting new match-types and world title matches. Maybe even have a tournament like S.S. '98. The last one I enjoyed was the 2005 edition. The build up to the classic style elimination tag matches was great.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 8, 2012 22:42:43 GMT -5
You have a WWE &/or world title match, & then nothing but traditional Survivor Series matches. Take it back to its roots. I wouldnt even put the World Title on the line. The idea of the PPV was built on the traditional Survivor Series matches. It 5 years before the Title was ever defended on the PPV. Go back to what the PPV is for. Its like having the King of the Ring without having any tournament.
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Post by pxkgotosleep on Dec 8, 2012 22:45:25 GMT -5
Survivor Series 2006 was the last one that really mattered. All of those teams. It was incredible.
Then again, 2005 was the most important in recent memory. That entire feud really made me start watching wrestling again, after the stale period that was before hand.
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Post by Lithium on Dec 8, 2012 22:47:35 GMT -5
Survivor Series 2006 was the last one that really mattered. All of those teams. It was incredible. Then again, 2005 was the most important in recent memory. That entire feud really made me start watching wrestling again, after the stale period that was before hand. Yeah, '05 is one of my favorites. The build-up was incredible. The event should defenitley go back to showcasing huge tag matches.
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Post by 5D's on Dec 8, 2012 22:52:20 GMT -5
I think its been sucky because they just take 5 current rivalries and throw the 5 faces on one team and the 5 heels on the other. Predictable and boring. I cringed as each member of Team Foley was announced because I called the whole darn thing perfectly.
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Post by ellisd on Dec 9, 2012 3:50:31 GMT -5
I agree with what others have said. Go back to mostly 4 vs 4 or 5 vs 5 matches, with maybe a couple of title matches thrown in; and put a bit more buildup behind the team members.
One thing I would like to see them try, and I've mentioned this before on other threads, is the Raw vs SmackDown 5 on 5 match. I thought of this a couple of years before, after watching Bragging Rights. At the time they had Bragging Rights and Survivor Series both occuring within a month of each other. One ppv is based on 5 on 5 matches, the other has a 5 on 5 match as its main event. So I was thinking they could get rid of Bragging Rights and just have a Raw vs Smackdown Bragging Rights match on Survivor Series.
Also I'd like to see the return of the Ultimate Survival match like they had at Survivor Series 1990.
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Post by kev bamber on Dec 9, 2012 7:32:31 GMT -5
i think its the fact that there is only 3 weeks between ppvs
i know wwe needs to make money but i preferred big 4(5 if you think kotr) then iyh style 2 hours ppv and please end 3 hrs of raw
i admit iam venting and showing my age but i really enjoyed 1993 -1998
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Dec 9, 2012 10:32:13 GMT -5
There are singles guys teaming up in tag team matches every week on Raw and Smackdown. It was a novelty that you could use to sell a pay-per-view in 1989. In 2012, not so much. As soon as they were putting the likes of Undertaker and Mankind vs Michaels and Triple H on television every week, the traditional Survivor matches were dead. They're a relic from the era when wrestling TV shows were pretty much just jobber squashes. Survivor Series team matches haven't been relevant in fifteen years, apart from when they can attach a gimmick to them (like "all the winning team gets to be GM for a week" or the Smackdown vs Raw match).
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Post by Zeke on Dec 9, 2012 11:24:53 GMT -5
Four five on five elimination matches, the survivors of the first match will face the survivors of the second match, and the third match survivors will face the fourth match survivors, then the survivors off the next two matches face off, in an elimination tag team tournament style match. Also have eight captains, the night after the Hell in a Cell PPV, and have the captains choose their team mates, over the time given, have the captain receive a World Heavyweight Championship match, while two team mates receive an Tag Team Championship match, and two team mates get an Intercontinental Championship and an United States Championship match, this all gives the captains an excuse to claim the best team mates, while the other guys want the Tag Team or Midcard Championship match opportunity, here's one I planned out, pretty rushed though.
Example:
Team Ziggler (Dolph Ziggler, Big Show, Tensai, Darren Young, Titus O'Neil) defeated Team Mysterio (Rey Mysterio, Sin Cara, Justin Gabriel, Tyson Kidd, Kofi Kingston) (Survivors: Dolph Ziggler & Big Show)
Team Cena (John Cena, Brodus Clay, Zack Ryder, Santino Marella, Alex Riley) defeated Team Del Rio (Alberto Del Rio, Ricardo Rodriguez, Epico, Primo, Damien Sandow) (Survivor: John Cena)
eam Orton (Randy Orton, the Miz, Daniel Bryan, Kane, Ryback) defeated Team Punk (CM Punk, Brad Maddox, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Roman Reins) (Survivors: Randy Orton, the Miz & Ryback)
Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) defeated Team Sheamus (Sheamus, Great Khali, Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso, Yoshi Tatsu) (Survivors: Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga)
team Cena (John Cena) defeated Team Ziggler (Dolph Ziggler & Big Show) (Survivor: John Cena)
Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) defeated Team Orton (Randy Orton, the Miz & Ryback) (Survivors: Wade Barrett, Heath Slater & Drew McIntyre)
Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Drew McIntyre) defeated Team Cena (John Cena) (Survivor: Wade Barrett)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 11:29:21 GMT -5
Four five on five elimination matches, the survivors of the first match will face the survivors of the second match, and the third match survivors will face the fourth match survivors, then the survivors off the next two matches face off, in an elimination tag team tournament style match. Also have eight captains, the night after the Hell in a Cell PPV, and have the captains choose their team mates, over the time given, have the captain receive a World Heavyweight Championship match, while two team mates receive an Tag Team Championship match, and two team mates get an Intercontinental Championship and an United States Championship match, this all gives the captains an excuse to claim the best team mates, while the other guys want the Tag Team or Midcard Championship match opportunity, here's one I planned out, pretty rushed though. Example: Team Ziggler (Dolph Ziggler, Big Show, Tensai, Darren Young, Titus O'Neil) defeated Team Mysterio (Rey Mysterio, Sin Cara, Justin Gabriel, Tyson Kidd, Kofi Kingston) (Survivors: Dolph Ziggler & Big Show) Team Cena (John Cena, Brodus Clay, Zack Ryder, Santino Marella, Alex Riley) defeated Team Del Rio (Alberto Del Rio, Ricardo Rodriguez, Epico, Primo, Damien Sandow) (Survivor: John Cena) eam Orton (Randy Orton, the Miz, Daniel Bryan, Kane, Ryback) defeated Team Punk (CM Punk, Brad Maddox, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Roman Reins) (Survivors: Randy Orton, the Miz & Ryback) Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) defeated Team Sheamus (Sheamus, Great Khali, Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso, Yoshi Tatsu) (Survivors: Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) team Cena (John Cena) defeated Team Ziggler (Dolph Ziggler & Big Show) (Survivor: John Cena) Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) defeated Team Orton (Randy Orton, the Miz & Ryback) (Survivors: Wade Barrett, Heath Slater & Drew McIntyre) Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Drew McIntyre) defeated Team Cena (John Cena) (Survivor: Wade Barrett) I love that idea, decent from you.
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Post by jakks1996collector on Dec 9, 2012 12:54:38 GMT -5
No one cares about the traditional Survivor Series elimination matches anymore. The concept itself is outdated. 1994 was the last time it was exciting.
Just rebrand the PPV. Survivor Series only mattered when it was a Thanksgiving/Thanksgiving Eve show. The magic has since been lost.
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Post by REAL REVY on Dec 9, 2012 12:58:59 GMT -5
Everyone who is eliminated is fired or suspended for 365 days depending on how they were defeated. Would bring the much need drama and attitude back to the WWE.
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Post by tg11 on Dec 9, 2012 13:54:01 GMT -5
How to revitalize Survivor Series is by having big time Mania worthy matches taking place but at Survivor Series to basically give the fans what they want out of this event, no to water their mouths making them savor this PPV by offering these big time matches that they would usually see at Mania but seeing it take place earlier to build back up fan interest
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Post by wwextreme25 on Dec 9, 2012 14:04:03 GMT -5
I think it is the lack of the big traditional 5 vs 5 match. 100%
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Post by tg11 on Dec 9, 2012 14:05:28 GMT -5
Definitely more traditional Survivor Series matches on the card than just 1 or 2 for sure or have a Deadly Games tournament again like how they did in 1998
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 14:12:00 GMT -5
Four five on five elimination matches, the survivors of the first match will face the survivors of the second match, and the third match survivors will face the fourth match survivors, then the survivors off the next two matches face off, in an elimination tag team tournament style match. Also have eight captains, the night after the Hell in a Cell PPV, and have the captains choose their team mates, over the time given, have the captain receive a World Heavyweight Championship match, while two team mates receive an Tag Team Championship match, and two team mates get an Intercontinental Championship and an United States Championship match, this all gives the captains an excuse to claim the best team mates, while the other guys want the Tag Team or Midcard Championship match opportunity, here's one I planned out, pretty rushed though. Example: Team Ziggler (Dolph Ziggler, Big Show, Tensai, Darren Young, Titus O'Neil) defeated Team Mysterio (Rey Mysterio, Sin Cara, Justin Gabriel, Tyson Kidd, Kofi Kingston) (Survivors: Dolph Ziggler & Big Show) Team Cena (John Cena, Brodus Clay, Zack Ryder, Santino Marella, Alex Riley) defeated Team Del Rio (Alberto Del Rio, Ricardo Rodriguez, Epico, Primo, Damien Sandow) (Survivor: John Cena) eam Orton (Randy Orton, the Miz, Daniel Bryan, Kane, Ryback) defeated Team Punk (CM Punk, Brad Maddox, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Roman Reins) (Survivors: Randy Orton, the Miz & Ryback) Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) defeated Team Sheamus (Sheamus, Great Khali, Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso, Yoshi Tatsu) (Survivors: Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) team Cena (John Cena) defeated Team Ziggler (Dolph Ziggler & Big Show) (Survivor: John Cena) Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) defeated Team Orton (Randy Orton, the Miz & Ryback) (Survivors: Wade Barrett, Heath Slater & Drew McIntyre) Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Drew McIntyre) defeated Team Cena (John Cena) (Survivor: Wade Barrett) That would be awesome! And build so many stars!
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Post by ellisd on Dec 10, 2012 0:58:28 GMT -5
Four five on five elimination matches, the survivors of the first match will face the survivors of the second match, and the third match survivors will face the fourth match survivors, then the survivors off the next two matches face off, in an elimination tag team tournament style match. Also have eight captains, the night after the Hell in a Cell PPV, and have the captains choose their team mates, over the time given, have the captain receive a World Heavyweight Championship match, while two team mates receive an Tag Team Championship match, and two team mates get an Intercontinental Championship and an United States Championship match, this all gives the captains an excuse to claim the best team mates, while the other guys want the Tag Team or Midcard Championship match opportunity, here's one I planned out, pretty rushed though. Example: Team Ziggler (Dolph Ziggler, Big Show, Tensai, Darren Young, Titus O'Neil) defeated Team Mysterio (Rey Mysterio, Sin Cara, Justin Gabriel, Tyson Kidd, Kofi Kingston) (Survivors: Dolph Ziggler & Big Show) Team Cena (John Cena, Brodus Clay, Zack Ryder, Santino Marella, Alex Riley) defeated Team Del Rio (Alberto Del Rio, Ricardo Rodriguez, Epico, Primo, Damien Sandow) (Survivor: John Cena) eam Orton (Randy Orton, the Miz, Daniel Bryan, Kane, Ryback) defeated Team Punk (CM Punk, Brad Maddox, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Roman Reins) (Survivors: Randy Orton, the Miz & Ryback) Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) defeated Team Sheamus (Sheamus, Great Khali, Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso, Yoshi Tatsu) (Survivors: Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) team Cena (John Cena) defeated Team Ziggler (Dolph Ziggler & Big Show) (Survivor: John Cena) Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Jinder Mahal, Drew McIntyre, David Otunga) defeated Team Orton (Randy Orton, the Miz & Ryback) (Survivors: Wade Barrett, Heath Slater & Drew McIntyre) Team Barrett (Wade Barrett, Heath Slater, Drew McIntyre) defeated Team Cena (John Cena) (Survivor: Wade Barrett) I love that idea, decent from you. I like this too
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