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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Jan 27, 2013 23:17:46 GMT -5
Don't fool yourself bro, they are jobbers. Hardly nobodys though. |
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Post by OverTheEdge on Jan 27, 2013 23:18:02 GMT -5
Don't fool yourself bro, they are jobbers. I see the members of WF are STILL yet to learn what a jobber is. Yeah, the concept of that 'mark' word seems to be grasped rather loosely as well. |
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Post by Da Iceman on Jan 27, 2013 23:18:56 GMT -5
Here's just a few reasons why the way things went down tonight is so horribly disappointing from a logistical, booking standpoint... CM Punk has been built up to be a nearly unbeatable Champion, one way or another. By hook or crook, he gets the job done every single time. Seemingly the entire roster comes at him, and they lose. The Rock shows up, wrestles two matches in an entire year, and beats Punk. Not only does he beat Punk, he does so after being destroyed by the Shield. Even Ryback, WWE's full-time, full blown monster, couldn't come back after a brutal beatdown from the Shield. The Rock does it with ease. Not only does this tarnish the credibility of Punk's reign, it completely spits in the face of the entire roster of opponents Punk has faced. WWE is essentially saying "no one from our current roster is good enough to do it, but The Rock can." The situation tonight was perfect for a multitude of different scenarios that still wind up in the same destination that we all know WWE wants so badly. Either The Shield interferes and Vince strips Punk of the title, giving us an ACTUAL reason for an Elimination Chamber match next month, OR someone else interferes on Punk's behalf, Punk retains the title, and then goes on to Elimination Chamber. The end goal here is obviously to get the title back on the golden boy, John Cena. What better way to do it than to have him FINALLY beat the guy that has been a thorn in his side for years, who, consequently, happens to be rounding the corner on a 500 day Championship reign? Punk/Rock/Cena literally has been writing itself for over a year. It's a huge match with huge implications and the PERFECT place for Punk to finally lose the title. Not to mention the work leading up to it would have been stellar. Punk being constantly overshadowed and completely losing his cool over it, etc. The promo work would have been second to none. Instead, the workhorse, the guy who deserves the main event more than anyone else in the company, serves as nothing more than a 14 month placeholder for the "big boys". It's ass backwards and completely uninspired. This...100x this. I have watched WWE faithfully for the last 2-3 years because of CM Punk and how they have booked his title reign and now they threw it all right down the shitter. I'm not watching Raw tomorrow cause I know EXACTLY what will happen with the WWE Title from now to Wrestlemania and after that we get John Cena as the champ for probably around 10 months. It's awful and predictable booking, and it sucks. |
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Post by bencw on Jan 27, 2013 23:19:13 GMT -5
Punk losing makes the entire roster, and this generation look terrible. No one has been able to beat Punk, and a guy who has wrestled maybe three matches in the last ten years comes back and beats him? Makes the entire roster look bad. People use this point constantly but it's moot. This is wrestling. The 40+ year old Taker beating a young guy for the title makes young wrestlers look bad. In wrestling people don't think like this. It doesn't make the roster look bad. I'm just pissed the Rumble was so boring. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Cena won over Rycrap (and I hate Cena) but it was dull. |
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Post by deskjet on Jan 27, 2013 23:19:41 GMT -5
Here's just a few reasons why the way things went down tonight is so horribly disappointing from a logistical, booking standpoint... CM Punk has been built up to be a nearly unbeatable Champion, one way or another. By hook or crook, he gets the job done every single time. Seemingly the entire roster comes at him, and they lose. The Rock shows up, wrestles two matches in an entire year, and beats Punk. Not only does he beat Punk, he does so after being destroyed by the Shield. Even Ryback, WWE's full-time, full blown monster, couldn't come back after a brutal beatdown from the Shield. The Rock does it with ease. Not only does this tarnish the credibility of Punk's reign, it completely spits in the face of the entire roster of opponents Punk has faced. WWE is essentially saying "no one from our current roster is good enough to do it, but The Rock can." The situation tonight was perfect for a multitude of different scenarios that still wind up in the same destination that we all know WWE wants so badly. Either The Shield interferes and Vince strips Punk of the title, giving us an ACTUAL reason for an Elimination Chamber match next month, OR someone else interferes on Punk's behalf, Punk retains the title, and then goes on to Elimination Chamber. The end goal here is obviously to get the title back on the golden boy, John Cena. What better way to do it than to have him FINALLY beat the guy that has been a thorn in his side for years, who, consequently, happens to be rounding the corner on a 500 day Championship reign? Punk/Rock/Cena literally has been writing itself for over a year. It's a huge match with huge implications and the PERFECT place for Punk to finally lose the title. Not to mention the work leading up to it would have been stellar. Punk being constantly overshadowed and completely losing his cool over it, etc. The promo work would have been second to none. Instead, the workhorse, the guy who deserves the main event more than anyone else in the company, serves as nothing more than a 14 month placeholder for the "big boys". It's ass backwards and completely uninspired. thank you |
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Post by Joejitsu22 on Jan 27, 2013 23:21:35 GMT -5
Don't fool yourself bro, they are jobbers. I see the members of WF are STILL yet to learn what a jobber is. I'm pretty sure less than 1% of fans in attendance were saying "oh man i hope carlito comes back tonight, what an impact player" Thy are not nostalgic like godfather, iconic like Nash, or even booker t level talent. They aren't jobbers per say but they are simply filler. Like it or not. |
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Post by Scotty on Jan 27, 2013 23:21:37 GMT -5
Rock winning is the biggest disgrace to every man and woman in the locker room who work their asses off week in and week out.
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Post by xxthigpenxx on Jan 27, 2013 23:21:52 GMT -5
This Royal Rumble was GREAT. This has been won of the best Rumbles I have seen in recent years. The Rumble match was solid through out the whole match from entrant # 1 to entrant #30. I really like how they had all main event top wrestlers battle it out midway and towards to end. I really did think Barrett was going to pull it off because he got injured at the last year's Rumble match and was suppose to win the MITB ladder match at Wrestlemania 28. Than at one point I was damn Ziggler or Jericho might just pulled this off at the #1 entrant & #2 entrant. When it came down to the final 4 Cena,Ryback,Orton & Sheamus I knew Cena was going to win.
CM PUNK really carried The Rock big time is this match tonight. You can tell Rock was so tired and worn out. The match itself was amazing. It was so obvious The Rock was going to win since Cena won the Rumble match. At one point I really thought Brock Lesnar was going to get involved some how but that didn't happen.
The only thing I did not like about the ppv was that they did not have the Royal Rumble match last like they always do. I guess Rock was too good to have his match against second to last so he had to get his way and close the show. Other than that this year's ppv was really good by far. Now the road to Wrestlemania 29 has offically begun. I can't wait. I'll be there.
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Post by Rule 30 on Jan 27, 2013 23:21:55 GMT -5
Honestly - this was a really good show. Del Rio/Show was better than expected, tag match was solid, I thought the Rumble was great, and I loved Punk/Rock. Rock winning just left a sour taste in my mouth, and I feel like I'm going to puke if we get the most predictable Mania result of them all - Cena beating Rock for the title. Hey, at least now somebody will be going over Rock.
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Post by OverTheEdge on Jan 27, 2013 23:21:59 GMT -5
Here's just a few reasons why the way things went down tonight is so horribly disappointing from a logistical, booking standpoint... CM Punk has been built up to be a nearly unbeatable Champion, one way or another. By hook or crook, he gets the job done every single time. Seemingly the entire roster comes at him, and they lose. The Rock shows up, wrestles two matches in an entire year, and beats Punk. Not only does he beat Punk, he does so after being destroyed by the Shield. Even Ryback, WWE's full-time, full blown monster, couldn't come back after a brutal beatdown from the Shield. The Rock does it with ease. Not only does this tarnish the credibility of Punk's reign, it completely spits in the face of the entire roster of opponents Punk has faced. WWE is essentially saying "no one from our current roster is good enough to do it, but The Rock can." The situation tonight was perfect for a multitude of different scenarios that still wind up in the same destination that we all know WWE wants so badly. Either The Shield interferes and Vince strips Punk of the title, giving us an ACTUAL reason for an Elimination Chamber match next month, OR someone else interferes on Punk's behalf, Punk retains the title, and then goes on to Elimination Chamber. The end goal here is obviously to get the title back on the golden boy, John Cena. What better way to do it than to have him FINALLY beat the guy that has been a thorn in his side for years, who, consequently, happens to be rounding the corner on a 500 day Championship reign? Punk/Rock/Cena literally has been writing itself for over a year. It's a huge match with huge implications and the PERFECT place for Punk to finally lose the title. Not to mention the work leading up to it would have been stellar. Punk being constantly overshadowed and completely losing his cool over it, etc. The promo work would have been second to none. Instead, the workhorse, the guy who deserves the main event more than anyone else in the company, serves as nothing more than a 14 month placeholder for the "big boys". It's ass backwards and completely uninspired. Perfectly worded. I don't mind Rock being WWE Champion. We all knew Rock was going to be WWE Champion. My problem, as usual, is how they went about doing it. The way you described would have been perfect. Same end goal with a much bigger payoff. |
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 27, 2013 23:22:18 GMT -5
Here's just a few reasons why the way things went down tonight is so horribly disappointing from a logistical, booking standpoint... CM Punk has been built up to be a nearly unbeatable Champion, one way or another. By hook or crook, he gets the job done every single time. Seemingly the entire roster comes at him, and they lose. The Rock shows up, wrestles two matches in an entire year, and beats Punk. Not only does he beat Punk, he does so after being destroyed by the Shield. Even Ryback, WWE's full-time, full blown monster, couldn't come back after a brutal beatdown from the Shield. The Rock does it with ease. Not only does this tarnish the credibility of Punk's reign, it completely spits in the face of the entire roster of opponents Punk has faced. WWE is essentially saying "no one from our current roster is good enough to do it, but The Rock can." The situation tonight was perfect for a multitude of different scenarios that still wind up in the same destination that we all know WWE wants so badly. Either The Shield interferes and Vince strips Punk of the title, giving us an ACTUAL reason for an Elimination Chamber match next month, OR someone else interferes on Punk's behalf, Punk retains the title, and then goes on to Elimination Chamber. The end goal here is obviously to get the title back on the golden boy, John Cena. What better way to do it than to have him FINALLY beat the guy that has been a thorn in his side for years, who, consequently, happens to be rounding the corner on a 500 day Championship reign? Punk/Rock/Cena literally has been writing itself for over a year. It's a huge match with huge implications and the PERFECT place for Punk to finally lose the title. Not to mention the work leading up to it would have been stellar. Punk being constantly overshadowed and completely losing his cool over it, etc. The promo work would have been second to none. Instead, the workhorse, the guy who deserves the main event more than anyone else in the company, serves as nothing more than a 14 month placeholder for the "big boys". It's ass backwards and completely uninspired. thank you I made a similar argument for why him beating Cena was a bit of a joke and I believe the response was 'Fans wanted Rock to win and they left happy.' I guess the same applies here. |
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Post by Epic Z on Jan 27, 2013 23:22:48 GMT -5
Enjoy what did happen and complain about something that didn't. There was no hints by WWE. It was just way to high expectations by you. All you talk about is no body jobbers that aren't WWE anymore like Shelton, Carlito, and Jomo, instead of the great one the rock?  Hardly nobody jobbers. I'm not saying there not great talents but what have they done to be a somebody? They haven't done anything in there careers they didn't get the chance and in result there nobody jobbers. Enjoy what did happen and complain about something that didn't. There was no hints by WWE. It was just way to high expectations by you. All you talk about is no body jobbers that aren't WWE anymore like Shelton, Carlito, and Jomo, instead of the great one the rock? JoMo > Rock HAHAHA are you really being serious right now? |
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Post by Scott! on Jan 27, 2013 23:23:08 GMT -5
I'm not bothered about the outcomes of both matches, but it was predictable.
Good event though, really enjoyed it.
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Post by bencw on Jan 27, 2013 23:23:20 GMT -5
Here's just a few reasons why the way things went down tonight is so horribly disappointing from a logistical, booking standpoint... CM Punk has been built up to be a nearly unbeatable Champion, one way or another. By hook or crook, he gets the job done every single time. Seemingly the entire roster comes at him, and they lose. The Rock shows up, wrestles two matches in an entire year, and beats Punk. Not only does he beat Punk, he does so after being destroyed by the Shield. Even Ryback, WWE's full-time, full blown monster, couldn't come back after a brutal beatdown from the Shield. The Rock does it with ease. Instead, the workhorse, the guy who deserves the main event more than anyone else in the company, serves as nothing more than a 14 month placeholder for the "big boys". It's ass backwards and completely uninspired. again, people forgetting that wrestling is totally illogical and the rock winning DOESN'T devalue the title or weaken the roster and all that. the rock, one of the greatest if not the greatest wwe champ, a big guy beat punk. if wrestling made sense, ryback would have destroyed smaller cm punk. 14 month placeholder? if he lost to cena at WM then he'd be a 16 month placeholder and again it'd be 'assbackwards'. jesus christ punk is massive, don't you realise that? no small disrespected guy get's given the belt for that long. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 23:23:36 GMT -5
Well, Punk had a fantastic run.
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Post by slappy on Jan 27, 2013 23:23:52 GMT -5
HAHAHA are you really being serious right now? Yes. |
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Post by Rule 30 on Jan 27, 2013 23:24:51 GMT -5
Here's just a few reasons why the way things went down tonight is so horribly disappointing from a logistical, booking standpoint... CM Punk has been built up to be a nearly unbeatable Champion, one way or another. By hook or crook, he gets the job done every single time. Seemingly the entire roster comes at him, and they lose. The Rock shows up, wrestles two matches in an entire year, and beats Punk. Not only does he beat Punk, he does so after being destroyed by the Shield. Even Ryback, WWE's full-time, full blown monster, couldn't come back after a brutal beatdown from the Shield. The Rock does it with ease. Instead, the workhorse, the guy who deserves the main event more than anyone else in the company, serves as nothing more than a 14 month placeholder for the "big boys". It's ass backwards and completely uninspired. again, people forgetting that wrestling is totally illogical and the rock winning DOESN'T devalue the title or weaken the roster and all that. the rock, one of the greatest if not the greatest wwe champ, a big guy beat punk. if wrestling made sense, ryback would have destroyed smaller cm punk. 14 month placeholder? if he lost to cena at WM then he'd be a 16 month placeholder and again it'd be 'assbackwards'. jesus christ punk is massive, don't you realise that? no small disrespected guy get's given the belt for that long. It's more like Cena (or even Rock) winning at WrestleMania is bigger payoff to the title reign than Rock getting it done on his first try. |
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Post by East Coast on Jan 27, 2013 23:24:58 GMT -5
I just made the mistake of looking up the last 10 WrestleMania's, just to see John Cena's involvement.
its disgusting. That dude gets a title shot every year. So even tho winning the Rumble makes sense.....its just silly, cuz he was getting that spot regardless.
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Post by Joejitsu22 on Jan 27, 2013 23:25:49 GMT -5
Rock winning is the biggest disgrace to every man and woman in the locker room who work their asses off week in and week out. I think the fact that he can wrestle twice a year and control the audience the way he does and have the presence he has in the ring should be an inspiration. Not just anybody can wrestle twice a year and it be on rocks level. From a ring work standpoint, mic work, popularity. Think about it. Twice a year and look at what he brings. It's pretty amazing when you think about it like that. |
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Post by J12 on Jan 27, 2013 23:26:07 GMT -5
I made a similar argument for why him beating Cena was a bit of a joke and I believe the response was 'Fans wanted Rock to win and they left happy.' I guess the same applies here. I felt the same way about The Rock winning last year. And I like The Rock, don't get me wrong. The difference, of course, is the fact that WWE obviously booked The Rock to beat Cena with the redemption this year in mind. We all know, in the end, Cena goes out on top. Punk doesn't get that luxury. The Rock beat him and they'll likely never face each other again. I get the appeal (from WWE's standpoint) of Rock/Cena II. I do. But they did such a fantastic job of building a story between these three guys that it's an absolute shame to think they won't ever cash in on it. Simply put, Punk deserves the main event. Let him lose there. Fine. It's the perfect place to do it. Tonight just wasn't. The good guy chasing the bad guy always makes for the better story. Always. The longer Punk holds onto the title, the bigger the payoff it is for the superhero to come in and finally take the title. |
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