The Official Love/Hate me some guns thread

Why should there be drug tests? Are you serious? Obviously a person who uses drugs shouldn't be able to own a gun. And the only type of guns that people should be able to purchase are handguns and hunting rifles. If the law abiding citizens want a gun in their household so they can protect themselves and their family, all they would need is a simple handgun. And I also believe that people with a history of mental illness (which includes me) should not be able to purchase any kind of firearm. I don't see how any of this would be considered unreasonable.

And I really don't understand your logic sometimes. You are so against the death penalty, but yet you're okay with guns. You make zero sense sometimes.

i find this logic really inane. you could justify anything through that. a car's function is not to crash, a gun's function is to shoot and mame/kill. obviously despite your gun control there is a huge issue with guns in your country. don't deny the harm it does.

america is a gun-toting nation and surprise surprise, they have gun problems.

yes, and cars provide a service that without would cease life as we know it. getting rid of guns would almost definetly save lives at no true expense. i suppose someone would mention freedom but that is really laughable. i could be a nuke enthusiast, doesn't mean i have the right to drop them in my backyard.

nope, the world would not be able to function as it currently does without the use of cars. if they actually improved public transportation to the degree we didn't need individual cars, i'd be all for it. prevent needless fossil fuel loss...sounds good to me.

sorry but enjoying target shooting isn't justification for allowing weapons made to kill to be freely owned. and i've seen endless sticky messes as a result of that self rightous americana mentality of "i'll defend what's mine."

guess what that mentality breeds? a "i'll fend for myself against those evil people." type which results in a me vs. them mentality, the american patriot vs the criminal in the shadows. it's hilarious...but horrifying.

I won't deny the harm that guns do. That'd be ridiculous. But what we're talking about here is whether banning them would actually save lives. You say it will, and I say it won't.

Okay, lets say the US bans guns and Newtown, CT doesn't happen as a result. That's a WONDERFUL outcome. That's 20 kids that are still living. Again, wonderful. But let's compare that to the 506 homicides that occurred last year in Chicago (most in our country).

Cities like Detroit, DC, and Baltimore aren't far behind. How many of those murders do you think were committed with a gun that was legally obtained? You think "OG Gangsta Killah" went to his local Gander Mountain or Bass Pro Shop, waited the 10 day period, watched the 10 minute gun safety video and paid a half grand for his Glock 9? No sir. So what are we going to do to stop THAT from happening? Because taking guns from law abiding citizens isn't going to.

@badnews: the guns originate somewhere. many blackmarket guns are acquired through people stealing, i'd imagine the majority.

Still illegally obtained though. That's my point, man. Let's say guns are banned. They're no longer available in stores. Now to me, that's the difference between two hoods robbing a gun shop on the corner in the inner city, and a team of criminals, willing to kill, robbing a factory where weapons are made for other usage.

And let's not focus on gang shootings or shootings where the victims are minorities.

car accidents are an unfortunate result to a great service that cars provide. when people are in car accidents, it’s a sad result of an accident. cars functions are not to crash. guns functions are to shoot, and furthermore, kill. every day life would not suffer from guns being removed from the equation, cars would detrimentally affect us. i feel this point is driven into the ground (no pun intended), cars and guns are simply not the same argument at all and is a bad attempt at justifying a huge issue.



that's exactly my point. you have proven yourselves incapable as a whole of properly defending yourself with guns, the rest of the world can see it but of course, just as there was with health care, there's some old americana 'screw with me i'll kick your ass' balogna mentality that withhold most from realizing this. americans feel so justified, they don't expect but demand these rights, and don't truly care if it's a detriment to their own people and nation. they just think 'i don't misuse it, so i'm exempted.'

america is a gun loving nation, plain and simple, and it suffers for it. and it and it's people's arrogance will never allow itself to understand another possible perspective, cuz it's america and they got their rights. it's pathetic, really. here in canada we don't have that mentality of being afraid of people around you, we don't feel paranoid about people breaking into our homes, a lot of us don't even lock our doors...ever. it's a better way to live undoubtedly, but of course we're the ones who somehow have it wrong, right?




exactly my point: justification of a paranoid nation through 'the right to defend.'