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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 15, 2013 17:29:36 GMT -5
The guy is a glorified midcarder. As a face he just comes off as corny and cheesey. Atleast as a heel it worked in his favor. Now he just comes off as a tool to me. He has an average look and his mic skills are childish and uncreative. He still is only average at best in the ring, and I have no clue how he ever got the WWE Title. Worst WWE Champion ever IMO. Nobody was a less credible WWE Champion than him. The fact he won it and main evented a WM is a joke (and it was arguably one of the worst WM main events ever). I'm in the minority and am not a big CM Punk fan, but I agree 100% with Punk that Miz is basically a talentless hack.
Yes, he is a good spokesperson for the WWE, but that doesn't mean he should be shoved down our throats every week. Far more talented guys have been wasted over the years and its a shame.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Jan 15, 2013 17:33:22 GMT -5
The guy is a glorified midcarder. As a face he just comes off as corny and cheesey. Atleast as a heel it worked in his favor. Now he just comes off as a tool to me. He has an average look and his mic skills are childish and uncreative. He still is only average at best in the ring, and I have no clue how he ever got the WWE Title. Worst WWE Champion ever IMO. Nobody was a less credible WWE Champion than him. The fact he won it and main evented a WM is a joke (and it was arguably one of the worst WM main events ever). I'm in the minority and am not a big CM Punk fan, but I agree 100% with Punk that Miz is basically a talentless hack. Yes, he is a good spokesperson for the WWE, but that doesn't mean he should be shoved down our throats every week. Far more talented guys have been wasted over the years and its a shame. Now the guy in your sig is my idea of a pro wrestler!
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 15, 2013 17:33:29 GMT -5
The guy is a glorified midcarder. As a face he just comes off as corny and cheesey. Atleast as a heel it worked in his favor. Now he just comes off as a tool to me. He has an average look and his mic skills are childish and uncreative. He still is only average at best in the ring, and I have no clue how he ever got the WWE Title. Worst WWE Champion ever IMO. Nobody was a less credible WWE Champion than him. The fact he won it and main evented a WM is a joke (and it was arguably one of the worst WM main events ever). I'm in the minority and am not a big CM Punk fan, but I agree 100% with Punk that Miz is basically a talentless hack. Yes, he is a good spokesperson for the WWE, but that doesn't mean he should be shoved down our throats every week. Far more talented guys have been wasted over the years and its a shame. Corny and cheesy is keeping John Cena at the top...so despite the internet not liking The Miz as a face, the live crowds seem to be liking him, so it could be a very good career move for him.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 15, 2013 17:36:45 GMT -5
The guy is a glorified midcarder. As a face he just comes off as corny and cheesey. Atleast as a heel it worked in his favor. Now he just comes off as a tool to me. He has an average look and his mic skills are childish and uncreative. He still is only average at best in the ring, and I have no clue how he ever got the WWE Title. Worst WWE Champion ever IMO. Nobody was a less credible WWE Champion than him. The fact he won it and main evented a WM is a joke (and it was arguably one of the worst WM main events ever). I'm in the minority and am not a big CM Punk fan, but I agree 100% with Punk that Miz is basically a talentless hack. Yes, he is a good spokesperson for the WWE, but that doesn't mean he should be shoved down our throats every week. Far more talented guys have been wasted over the years and its a shame. Corny and cheesy is keeping John Cena at the top...so despite the internet not liking The Miz as a face, the live crowds seem to be liking him, so it could be a very good career move for him. Can I ask where you get that opinion from? I agree with the parallels to Cena, but I still don't think Miz gets a very good reaction. I also think Cena cemented his legacy before he was Saturday morning Hulk Hogan corny. Cena was pretty badass before he turned into a complete boy scout.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Jan 15, 2013 17:37:31 GMT -5
The guy is a glorified midcarder. As a face he just comes off as corny and cheesey. Atleast as a heel it worked in his favor. Now he just comes off as a tool to me. He has an average look and his mic skills are childish and uncreative. He still is only average at best in the ring, and I have no clue how he ever got the WWE Title. Worst WWE Champion ever IMO. Nobody was a less credible WWE Champion than him. The fact he won it and main evented a WM is a joke (and it was arguably one of the worst WM main events ever). I'm in the minority and am not a big CM Punk fan, but I agree 100% with Punk that Miz is basically a talentless hack. Yes, he is a good spokesperson for the WWE, but that doesn't mean he should be shoved down our throats every week. Far more talented guys have been wasted over the years and its a shame. Corny and cheesy is keeping John Cena at the top...so despite the internet not liking The Miz as a face, the live crowds seem to be liking him, so it could be a very good career move for him. Fair. However, Cena really is that guy. He's not trying to be funny, he's just being an ass and amusing himself. I like Cena's humor tbh, the Miz tries wa too hard. Cena just goes out and has a good time. The Miz couldn't look anymore forced if he tried. Hell everything he does is contrived imo.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 15, 2013 17:45:42 GMT -5
Corny and cheesy is keeping John Cena at the top...so despite the internet not liking The Miz as a face, the live crowds seem to be liking him, so it could be a very good career move for him. Can I ask where you get that opinion from? I agree with the parallels to Cena, but I still don't think Miz gets a very good reaction. I also think Cena cemented his legacy before he was Saturday morning Hulk Hogan corny. Cena was pretty badass before he turned into a complete boy scout. People act like Cena was an epic heel for years and years and years before he turned into a "boy scout". John Cena was a heel for less than 2 years of his time in the WWE. He's never been a heel World Champion, ever since he was positioned as WWE's top guy he's been a face and has been singing the same song. I'm not even so sure that this heel John Cena that everyone has innaccurate memories of how supposedly great it was could have even gotten to the heights that corny boy scout John Cena has achieved, internet dislike aside. And as far as The Miz goes.....I dunno. I think his reaction of the live crowd is fairly decent. The reaction was huge when he was announced as the last man on Team Foley at Survivor Series, his reaction last night with Flair was very good. He gets a nice ovation on a regular basis from what I can hear. I mean, it's better to be a face that gets a "decent" reaction than a heel who NOBODY was caring about. I'm not at all saying that Miz as a face has what it takes or is on the path to being the next John Cena or the next top guy or even another World Title run....I'm just saying what he's doing now is better than the DEAD SILENCE and complete lack of interest he was getting from the fans as a heel.
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 15, 2013 17:49:59 GMT -5
Because he is Awesome
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Post by bababooey on Jan 15, 2013 18:05:04 GMT -5
I'm mixed with Miz. I think he's awful as a face but when he's booked right, he's a great heel. I just think that the problem with him is that when he starts doing something WWE seems to bail. Awesome Truth was out of his control but I really liked him in that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 18:16:03 GMT -5
I think it comes down to that fans of The Miz are gonna enjoy his promo work, his ring skills and just his over all persona.
The fans who hate The Miz, will say he is cheesy, horrible as a face, not a very good worker, and shouldn't have been a WWE Champion.
I think what it all comes down to is that fans of The Miz will just have to accept that people who don't like him will hate on him, and the ones who hate The Miz have to understand that fans of The Miz can see Miz doing no wrong.
Let's just agree to disagree on the matter, people.
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Post by the franchise on Jan 15, 2013 20:58:46 GMT -5
I definitely feel like he works better as a heel. Looking at those five wrestlers you mentioned at least three of them are horrible.
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Jan 15, 2013 21:24:04 GMT -5
Am I the only person who actually likes The Miz and enjoyed his Title run? I'd prefer to see him over Orton's drowsy promos any day. He's no where near Punk, Bryan or Cesaro in the ring, but I do rate him highly as one of their best right now, maybe behind Team Rhodes Scholars and International Airstrike.
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Post by yinyang on Jan 15, 2013 21:34:31 GMT -5
Am I the only person who actually likes The Miz and enjoyed his Title run? I'd prefer to see him over Orton's drowsy promos any day. He's no where near Punk, Bryan or Cesaro in the ring, but I do rate him highly as one of their best right now, maybe behind Team Rhodes Scholars and International Airstrike. I liked it. MIZ IS AWWWWWWWWWWWWESOME! DUH... REALLY! FACT!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 21:36:25 GMT -5
Miz blows a load of .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2013 21:45:28 GMT -5
1. I am not a fan of the Miz by any means, but he is so much better than that hack Kennedy.
2. Punk does not hate Miz and never called him a hack. He simply thought that he was a better heel than Miz at the time and deserved to main event Wrestlemania as champ. Punk had Miz interviewed for his dvd which he wouldn't have done had he hated him.
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Post by BCizzle on Jan 15, 2013 21:56:49 GMT -5
He is so corny - just like Cena, just like Sheamus when he jokes around. It's getting painful!
The Miz has turned back into the Original Miz, like back when he was hosting the Diva Search and bombing. He was a damn good heel - when he teamed with Morrison he was great fun. But now? It's just sad.
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 16, 2013 12:34:15 GMT -5
Miz is ever-improving but also nothing special, and should never have been World Champion. But should he be fired? Hell no.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2013 12:54:42 GMT -5
Because he's awesome?
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jan 16, 2013 15:00:57 GMT -5
Apparently no one really noticed this last night. Miz marked out. Go back and watch that whole segment, he was acting EXACTLY like any one of us would have acted if we were in the ring talking with one of our favorite superstars EVER. Ric Flair is a ing living LEGEND....whether you like him or not. Miz was literally starstruck and basically in that kind of "trance" like "holy crap, im in the ring letting RIC FLAIR elbow drop my suit" Perfect example of hitting the nail on the head... He was excited! And for the first time, for me, Mix showed that he truely is a FAN of wrestling, and not using it as a stepping stone to fame. If anything, it made me a fan of Miz more than anything. Kinda don't like Flair airing out the fact that he showed up for the money, but hey, its the Nature Boy on Raw, gotta love it!
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Post by The Undertaker on Jan 16, 2013 15:38:07 GMT -5
The more important question is how the hell did he land the world title.
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Post by JuiceWinslow on Jan 16, 2013 16:00:59 GMT -5
I feel like The Miz has a lot to offer.
I especially think he is REALLY good at commentary. I always enjoy what he has to say with Mitchell Cole.
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