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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 15:32:31 GMT -5
B*ll-sh*t as much as I like Bret Hart. He is completely wrong on this, and I think it's simply Career Jealously.
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Post by LtD73 on Feb 1, 2013 15:54:55 GMT -5
Am I the only one interested in that dvd?
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Post by gelatinoustapeworm on Feb 1, 2013 16:53:03 GMT -5
Whilst Triple H might not be on the same level as Rock, Austin, or Hogan as far as stars ago or on Bret or Shawn's level as far as wrestling goes, to say he's never had a great match is pretty ridiculous. Bret has always been quite a mark for himself & takes himself far too seriously. This!!!!! I'm as big a Bret Hart fan as you're going to find (look at my sig), but he has always been quite high on himself. To say HHH (who I've never been a big fan of) was mediocre and never had great matches is just ridiculous. He was one of the best in the game from 99-01 and has been solid since then. He has had great matches with Foley, Angle, Jericho, Michaels, and Taker, just to name a few.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Feb 1, 2013 19:04:45 GMT -5
Let me put it this way, i'd rather watch 100 Triple H matches than 100 Bret Hart matches.
I'd certainly rank Hunter in my 'Top 5' and more-or-less what Bret said stinks of bitterness & jealousy.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Feb 1, 2013 20:17:48 GMT -5
Whats Bret jealous about guys?
Getting more praise from the current talent?
Being the number 1 guy in the WWF from 92-97?
The 4 million dollars he was paid in WCW?
Bret Hart is more respected and he's made a ton of money.
Bret Hart being jealous is a stupid theory, think before you type ignorance like that.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 1, 2013 20:57:38 GMT -5
Question to all those agreeing with Hart? When HBK returned from a four year absence for a return match, whom did he ask to be his opponent? And the last two years when Undertaker wanted to have a great WM match, who did he pick to have them with? Cena has 12 soon to be 13 reigns. Orton has nine. So Triple H's 13 isn't that outlandish really. I can almost gurantee you if guys like Benoit were alive and a guy like Angle was still in the company, Undertaker would've faced them at Mania.Notice how much better the Taker/HBK matches were? Doubtful. Those guys wrestled too hard of a style for Undertakers broken down body in 2009-now. Had those guys still been around Taker would have for sure wrestled them a lot more and may have even been too broken down to make it to WrestleMania 25.
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Post by The Undertaker on Feb 1, 2013 21:50:44 GMT -5
Whats Bret jealous about guys? Getting more praise from the current talent? Being the number 1 guy in the WWF from 92-97? The 4 million dollars he was paid in WCW? Bret Hart is more respected and he's made a ton of money. Bret Hart being jealous is a stupid theory, think before you type ignorance like that. There's a difference between jealousy and being bitter.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Feb 1, 2013 22:04:46 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
He's so bitter that he does any appearances Mcmahon asks of him at this point and works with HBK on multiple projects?
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Feb 2, 2013 1:04:15 GMT -5
I think HHH is just reaping some of the words he has thrown at others. He always talked smack about Hogan, Warrior not being good workers let him taste some of his own venom.
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Post by BØRNS on Feb 2, 2013 4:22:47 GMT -5
Yes, Triple H is overrated for the most part, but he's a big guy and has history.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Feb 2, 2013 4:45:11 GMT -5
I think the point that Bret is trying to make is the measure of a "Great Wrestler" is not just in the matches you have with other big name stars, but the great matches you put on with everyone else. People in this thread have listed some really good matches, but they were with guys like The Rock, SCSA, Foley, etc. all guys who were above him at the time. They elevated him, not the other way around, or he was at their level when he faced others.
But how many guys can you list, that after having a great match with Triple H, were elevated to the main event based solely on their match with him, and are still at that top spot? That to me, and probably the greats like Bret, is why he is considered a good wrestler, who has had good matches versus being considered a great wrestler with great matches.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Feb 2, 2013 5:10:37 GMT -5
I stayed up to watch this last Sunday night, I remember thinking he hit the nail on the head.
HHH was never on the level Rock, Austin and Taker were but I could never put my finger on why that was, but Bret cleared it up for me in that interview: HHH never did anything important in terms of the world of wrestling, and that's why his name is only the fifth or sixth that comes to mind when you think of that era.
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Post by Dan88 on Feb 2, 2013 5:38:19 GMT -5
I stayed up to watch this last Sunday night, I remember thinking he hit the nail on the head. HHH was never on the level Rock, Austin and Taker were but I could never put my finger on why that was, but Bret cleared it up for me in that interview: HHH never did anything important in terms of the world of wrestling, and that's why his name is only the fifth or sixth that comes to mind when you think of that era. D-Generation X. Without HHH they'd be no DX which is one of the top factions of all time. That's a pretty important thing in the wrestling world. Granted that's not all about him but he played the biggish role of it.
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Post by HHH316 on Feb 3, 2013 2:02:44 GMT -5
And Bret continues to bury Triple H, and this time he talks out his ass:
WWE Hall of Famer Bret "the Hitman" Hart did a quick interview with Arda Ocal of The Score and Baltimore Sun, where he continued his honest opinions of Triple H. After speaking on his short role in the WWE's Royal Rumble PPV and being able to "rub off on" Alberto del Rio, Hart mentioned that he stands by what he said about Triple H, and that he "wouldn't put him in the top 1,000 greatest wrestlers".
In regards to the 13-time World Champion one day taking over for Vince McMahon as the head of WWE, Bret admitted, "let's hope he can, but if he can't it won't be any great surprise to me. I've never seen any great genius come out of him at all."
Credit wrestlezone
Not in the top 1,000? Really, Bret?
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Feb 3, 2013 3:12:00 GMT -5
In my opinion Triple H has the best fueds and the best story telling matches in the wwe. The build ups are always great, he's my all time favorite wrestler. Followed by Jericho. Bret Hart is a moron, I respect him and what he's accomplished, but Triple H in my opinion is above and beyond Hart. Hart has legacy because of why happened in the early 90's, but when he went to WCW he bombed. Triple H is one of the all time greats in the ring, out of the ring, in the back, in the mic, he's just great.
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Feb 3, 2013 5:06:33 GMT -5
And Bret continues to bury Triple H, and this time he talks out his ass: WWE Hall of Famer Bret "the Hitman" Hart did a quick interview with Arda Ocal of The Score and Baltimore Sun, where he continued his honest opinions of Triple H. After speaking on his short role in the WWE's Royal Rumble PPV and being able to "rub off on" Alberto del Rio, Hart mentioned that he stands by what he said about Triple H, and that he "wouldn't put him in the top 1,000 greatest wrestlers". In regards to the 13-time World Champion one day taking over for Vince McMahon as the head of WWE, Bret admitted, "let's hope he can, but if he can't it won't be any great surprise to me. I've never seen any great genius come out of him at all." Credit wrestlezone Not in the top 1,000? Really, Bret? I just happy Bret quit bashing Hogan and found someone new to bash in HHH. Bret was bashing Flair the same way in the 90s.
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Post by Dan88 on Feb 3, 2013 9:31:02 GMT -5
And Bret continues to bury Triple H, and this time he talks out his ass: WWE Hall of Famer Bret "the Hitman" Hart did a quick interview with Arda Ocal of The Score and Baltimore Sun, where he continued his honest opinions of Triple H. After speaking on his short role in the WWE's Royal Rumble PPV and being able to "rub off on" Alberto del Rio, Hart mentioned that he stands by what he said about Triple H, and that he "wouldn't put him in the top 1,000 greatest wrestlers". In regards to the 13-time World Champion one day taking over for Vince McMahon as the head of WWE, Bret admitted, "let's hope he can, but if he can't it won't be any great surprise to me. I've never seen any great genius come out of him at all." Credit wrestlezone Not in the top 1,000? Really, Bret? The funny thing is that Triple H will be sat back and laughing at this cos Bret is making a fool of himself and only making him self look bad.. HHH has been praised by lots of people and would make it in to a lot of people's top 10,25 whatever lists so seeing negative stuff said about him by a guy that hates him will be water of a duck's back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 9:36:40 GMT -5
People are taking what Bret's saying out of context. Triple H isn't a great wrestler, neither is Hogan, but they've still had good matches.
I like Triple H, but I've never seen him have a 5 star match either. Bret could go out and have a great match with Hakushi, the 1-2-3 Kid, Yokozuna or Dino Bravo. It didn't matter who he was facing it was going to be great. In fact some of his best matches were with less than great wrestlers.
Triple's best matches are with guys like Angle and Undertaker. And they're nearly always the same match.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 3, 2013 11:08:41 GMT -5
You realise that the Slammy award is a biased WWE award that is chosen by...the WWE...gasp! There were plenty of better matches in 2012 than the highly overrated HHH/Taker HIAC.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2013 11:15:50 GMT -5
You realise that the Slammy award is a biased WWE award that is chosen by...the WWE...gasp! There were plenty of better matches in 2012 than the highly overrated HHH/Taker HIAC. Yeah it's not exactly fan decided. There have been tons of better matches. I personally think MOTY was possibly Ziggler vs Sheamus at NWO. In fact, Sheamus has had most of this years best matches.
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