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Post by mikey1974 on Apr 2, 2013 18:58:01 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler is a victim of horrible booking. They constantly saddle him with others who prevent him from having an opportunity to get over on his own. He was with Vickie for so long. She was the focal point when the two of them were on screen together. He was trying to prove a point and get over and the fans were booing Vickie out of the building. AJ turned heel to get back at John Cena....well, now Ziggler's angle with Cena is looooong over. What exactly is the current story with AJ and Dolph? Why are they still together? The story is not progressing or developing. She's just THERE. And Big E......despite Ziggler being one of the most talented wrestlers on the roster, they constantly book Ziggler as being unable to win without outside interference from AJ and/or Big E. Big E hasn't even had a match yet, he's AWFUL on the mic and he looks physically ridiculous with his huge tits and big ass cheeks hanging out of his tiny singlet. AJ and Big E are holding Ziggler back because they are unimportant and are making him look unimportant by association. this right here. |
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Post by CM Hardy on Apr 2, 2013 19:04:16 GMT -5
And Big E......despite Ziggler being one of the most talented wrestlers on the roster, they constantly book Ziggler as being unable to win without outside interference from AJ and/or Big E. Big E hasn't even had a match yet, he's AWFUL on the mic and he looks physically ridiculous with his huge tits and big ass cheeks hanging out of his tiny singlet. LMAO Exactly they are making Ziggler look weak. Aj is just there, and everything you said about Big E is absolutely true. He needs to put his damn boobs away and improve his mic skills. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 19:05:52 GMT -5
....because tis the same matches every damn week
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Post by glenanncam on Apr 2, 2013 19:30:30 GMT -5
Billy Gunn was the poor mans Billy Gunn. Dolph has already made it bigger than BA. But the NAO's were actually over and sold merch. Ziggler's claim to fame is giving the IWC a collective boner and getting a tease push. The dude is a legitimate jobber. Billy Gunn was only over as part of tag teams. Road Dogg sold merch. How many T-shirts did Billy Gunn have again? How many successful singles pushes did Billy Gunn have? 0? Oh yeah, that's right. How many times has Dolph Ziggler been world champion? Once, soon to be twice. How many times has Billy Gunn been world champion? Bagel. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 20:13:00 GMT -5
Ziggler's is probably the best worker since HBK, but surprisingly he is lacking in the charisma department. WWE keeps putting him in groups to hide his dullness, but it's just not working. It's the same problem Morrison had. He was great with Miz, but his work rate is no exception for a personalty. Have you actually watched any of his promos? The only guy better on the mic is CM Punk (not saying much as we are in a era of lesser mic skills). Cena, Orton, Sheamus and Del Rio are all pretty much horrible on the mic yet they are main eventers because of the way they have been booked. Ziggler isnt any worst than Swagger on the mic yet he has a match for the WHC at WM. I think there is a deeper reason why Zig isnt getting what he deserves, personally I think it has to do Vince having a eternal boner for the bigger less skilled ring work type wrestlers. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 2, 2013 20:18:59 GMT -5
They always cut matches and stuff from the Hulu version so I don't know why it is news when they cut Dolph from it. Because the dirtsheets need money? They also cut the Bellas match and the Barrett match. No complaints about that. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 20:20:39 GMT -5
Comparing Ziggler to Billy Gunn is just stupid, Billy got a huge push and he still couldnt get over. They gave him The Rock to work with and he could do nothing with that push. Ziggler on the other hand has been given almost nothing and yet is still just peaking into the main event. It was not to long ago when you would hear people chanting Lets Go Ziggler Lets Go Ziggler despite no push and wrestling a super babyface like Cena and Sheamus. They book him right the sky is the limit for Ziggler.
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Post by WWE Common Terry on Apr 2, 2013 20:23:56 GMT -5
He's not good on the mic. You might enjoy his style, but it doesn't get over with the crowd. His twitter is more interesting than his actual promos.
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Post by Jamal on Apr 2, 2013 20:29:55 GMT -5
Always thought he was overrated by the people on here.
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Post by Chip on Apr 2, 2013 20:32:22 GMT -5
if thats the case (his matches lose ratings) it's because the WWE has made him a complete joke, and no one really feels the need to watch his matches anymore
they either end with interference or with him losing.
no point in paying that much attention to it when you know the outcome.
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Post by Jaz on Apr 2, 2013 20:35:28 GMT -5
He'll be fine. His feud with Cena will probably pick back up again once Cena wins the title.
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Post by WalterF on Apr 2, 2013 20:46:35 GMT -5
Its funny because to me the guy just has consistently great matches. He is booked as a top rate jobber and he always seem to just be tossed in a match. Can't wait to see him featured more.
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Post by TurboEddie on Apr 2, 2013 20:53:34 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler is boring. One of the worst parts of Raw every week is when he's out.
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Post by BigShab421 on Apr 2, 2013 21:02:25 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler is boring. One of the worst parts of Raw every week is when he's out. LOL. Funny, considering you have the all-attention grabbing Barrett in your sig. |
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Post by TurboEddie on Apr 2, 2013 21:06:27 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler is boring. One of the worst parts of Raw every week is when he's out. LOL. Funny, considering you have the all-attention grabbing Barrett in your sig. I liked Wade Barrett long before most people on here have. Don't get on my ass because people have just taken notice. |
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Post by DMO™ on Apr 2, 2013 21:10:48 GMT -5
He was great on ZTLIS, but on screen with a mic he's dull as a doorknob.... Excellent in the ring of course, they obviously see something in him putting him over Cena and Orton and other big names, I think everything's going to pick up after Wrestlemania for Ziggler, there's just nothing for him to do right now.
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Post by el torro on Apr 2, 2013 21:10:57 GMT -5
LOL. Funny, considering you have the all-attention grabbing Barrett in your sig. I liked Wade Barrett long before most people on here have. Don't get on my ass because people have just taken notice. I am a big fan of both, but Ziggler is just all around better than Wade. It's a terrible shame at what's being done with guys like Ziggler, Wade, Cody, Cesaro, Sandow, etc., but I think more of a shame for a worker like Ziggler. He is the BEST worker on the roster at the moment and to not even feature his match is messed up. |
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Post by BigShab421 on Apr 2, 2013 21:11:02 GMT -5
LOL. Funny, considering you have the all-attention grabbing Barrett in your sig. I liked Wade Barrett long before most people on here have. Don't get on my ass because people have just taken notice. Sarcasm bro. Anyways, WWE recently has a track record of burying guys before they can break through. If for example DBry would not have been paired with Kane, they would have buried him no doubt, they had no direction for him. Ziggler, Kofi, Ryder, Rhodes, are just a small sample of guys who haven't necessarily been given a greenlight to bust out onto the main stage. |
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Apr 2, 2013 21:13:00 GMT -5
I'm not a member of the IWC and I love Dolph. He's probably my favorite current guy. Only because if anyone, I see a lot of Curt Hennig in him. If it wasn't for that 12 month expiration date, they'd have him carry around that damn briefcase forever.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Apr 2, 2013 21:23:14 GMT -5
Ziggler: gets pops even as a heel.... people say Billy Gunn was more over.
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