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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Apr 20, 2013 10:58:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 11:01:38 GMT -5
I see what you did there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 11:03:05 GMT -5
And all of them (who are men) have - or will - be fed to John Cena, Randy Orton & Sheamus.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Apr 20, 2013 11:04:33 GMT -5
Orton and Sheamus have become more of jobbers than everyone on this list, besides the obvious (3MB) But they're still getting pushed. They're on my tv screen every week.
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Post by NameRedacted™ on Apr 20, 2013 11:06:57 GMT -5
I'm kind of confused about what you are trying to convey Chuckbag...
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Apr 20, 2013 11:10:01 GMT -5
People like to complain because their favorite superstars aren't booked the exact way that they want them to be. People want guys like Ziggler to win the the title on go on to win every match they wrestle clean and never look weak, which is completely unrealistic unless your name is John Cena (unfortunately).
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Apr 20, 2013 11:11:10 GMT -5
And all of them (who are men) have - or will - be fed to John Cena, Randy Orton & Sheamus. Randy Orton and Sheamus were fed to Cena and came out okay. Cena's not the career killer you guys want to make him out to be.
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Post by Link on Apr 20, 2013 11:12:58 GMT -5
And all of them (who are men) have - or will - be fed to John Cena, Randy Orton & Sheamus. Randy Orton and Sheamus were fed to Cena and came out okay. Cena's not the career killer you guys want to make him out to be. Totally true. He's just an enjoyment killer.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Apr 20, 2013 11:21:25 GMT -5
Randy Orton and Sheamus were fed to Cena and came out okay. Cena's not the career killer you guys want to make him out to be. Totally true. He's just an enjoyment killer. As much as I want to, at this moment I can't argue that point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 11:25:06 GMT -5
That is such a good picture of Kaitlyn.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 11:28:10 GMT -5
That is such a good picture of Kaitlyn. Yeah but Big. E's boobs are bigger though.
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Post by Mr.GT on Apr 20, 2013 11:31:54 GMT -5
The sad thing of all of that is that Cesaro is probably going to get pushed even more... And by pushed...I mean pushed to Main Event.
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Post by punksnotdead on Apr 20, 2013 11:34:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure how Ziggler is supposed to be considered new talent when he's been working his ass off since 2008, before that if you want to count the Spirit Squad. Not to mention, he was feuding for the World Title at the beginning of 2011 and is just now getting a real shot at being champion. Also, pushing new talent and elevating new talent to the next level are two completely different things. If you'd like to talk about elevating new talent then I think we need to strictly talk about the WWE Title and the main event picture, since that's where the big boys play. WWE has two full time main event stars, that being CM Punk and John Cena. CM Punk forced the issue and John Cena has been at the top doing the exact same thing for 8 years. They tried half heartedly with Del Rio, Sheamus isn't over at that next level, Miz never even came close, and the rest of your stars for the better part of a decade have been some combination of Orton, Triple H, Batista and Edge. Rock and Brock Lesnar don't count. So while I love the infusion of new stars like Fandango, Cesaro, Damien Sandow, and definitely The Shield, what I'd like to see WWE do is have enough confidence in someone to actually make them a star. Ryback is the closest WWE has come in recent memory and I don't think they are putting him over, at least not yet. I know not everyone likes or is on board with him but someone has to break the glass ceiling and a large portion of the audience has taken to him from what I can tell. So I ask you, what new main event stars has WWE truly made in the last 10 years? No one is complaining about getting fresh faces, sans maybe Anvil Fan who would rather see them try harder with what they have already, what people are sick of is seeing the same guy(s) being put over, that largely being Cena. Orton and Sheamus (who is Cena-lite imo) fall into that same mold as the typical babyface. I know I am more tired of the same routine than I am of who is actually at the top. I think Orton can be awesome, Cena probably too, but Jesus if we haven't watched them do the same sh*t over-and-over since the mid 2000's, which feels like an eternity at this point. So I'm not sure what your point is with this thread because to me it seems largely misguided from what people are actually complaining about. Not a single picture you posted is of a guy who is a main event star on Cena's level, or even Punk's.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 11:38:40 GMT -5
That is such a good picture of Kaitlyn. Yeah but Big. E's boobs are bigger though. Lol not fair. He has bigger tits than anyone. Pornstars included.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Apr 20, 2013 11:44:22 GMT -5
Now if they would only push McIntyre higher.
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Post by cordless2016 on Apr 20, 2013 12:26:59 GMT -5
So of all the people the OP listed who can be considered a superstar, let alone a top guy? Of all of them maybe The Shield is/are the only guys/group that can be taken as legit top guys.
None of them have been given meaningful pushes and cannot be considered legit top stars. Sure they may get a title here or there but they aren't pushed to the level of guys like Cena, Orton, and Sheamus.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Apr 20, 2013 12:29:45 GMT -5
So of all the people the OP listed who can be considered a superstar, let alone a top guy? Of all of them maybe The Shield is/are the only guys/group that can be taken as legit top guys. None of them have been given meaningful pushes and cannot be considered legit top stars. Sure they may get a title here or there but they aren't pushed to the level of guys like Cena, Orton, and Sheamus. Give it time. All of those guys are still very young and still have alot of time to give.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Apr 20, 2013 12:34:00 GMT -5
add Sheamus to that list, WWE champion in under a year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 12:41:54 GMT -5
To those saying that none of these guys have been pushed to the Cena/ Orton (and now)/ Punk level, I say that's because all of the guys in the OP (aside from Bryan) have not reached Cena/ Orton/ Punk levels of popularity. Cena, Orton and Punk all at one point became over and then WWE pulled the trigger on them. Bryan has since become one of the most popular WWE stars and I could buy him as a legit threat to Cena, Orton and Punk (he already did look legit in his feud with Punk last year).
In the case of Sheamus, Ziggler, Del Rio and others, they were given World Titles to make them seem a big deal, whereas Cena, Orton, Punk and Bryan became a big deal and thus were given World Titles.
Don't get me wrong though, all three of those guys (Sheamus, Ziggler and Del Rio) have all gotten there IMO (or nearly gotten there). They are three of WWE's most popular younger/ newer talents in recent years.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Apr 20, 2013 12:49:11 GMT -5
I think most of the time the IWC complain because WWE dont push who they want them to push, as triple H would put it the "internet darlings" the IWC seem to follow a guy all around the indies, they eventually get signed to WWE and they expect them to see El Generico on monday night raw, winning some sort of big deal match on his debut. When in reality they're going to see Sami Zayn doing nothing (storyline/push wise) amazing.
Then you have guys like Sheamus, no one really heard of him, he comes in unique look, tall, well built and he's pushed to the moon.
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