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Post by Tim of thee on Jun 4, 2013 20:09:01 GMT -5
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Post by slappy on Jun 4, 2013 20:16:18 GMT -5
Proves anyone can be a ruthless killing machine. Good for them for being who they are but I always hate how people do stuff like this after it no longer matters. She could have done it while still active duty. Sports stars or whatever coming out after retiring or politicians coming out for gay marriage after they no longer have any power to do anything about it.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jun 4, 2013 20:32:06 GMT -5
Proves anyone can be a ruthless killing machine. Good for them for being who they are but I always hate how people do stuff like this after it no longer matters. She could have done it while still active duty. Sports stars or whatever coming out after retiring or politicians coming out for gay marriage after they no longer have any power to do anything about it. I'm not sure how that would have changed anything though. She would have been kicked out, not to mention the social ramifications of this. I cannot really blame her at all. |
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Post by slappy on Jun 4, 2013 20:35:12 GMT -5
Proves anyone can be a ruthless killing machine. Good for them for being who they are but I always hate how people do stuff like this after it no longer matters. She could have done it while still active duty. Sports stars or whatever coming out after retiring or politicians coming out for gay marriage after they no longer have any power to do anything about it. I'm not sure how that would have changed anything though. She would have been kicked out, not to mention the social ramifications of this. I cannot really blame her at all. She gets kicked out and then she sues the government and gets back in. If other soldiers harass her then that is their problem and they should be kicked out. She shouldn't be kicked out because she is who she is. She shouldn't be kicked out because others can't deal with who she is. |
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Post by Tim of thee on Jun 4, 2013 20:42:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure how that would have changed anything though. She would have been kicked out, not to mention the social ramifications of this. I cannot really blame her at all. She gets kicked out and then she sues the government and gets back in. If other soldiers harass her then that is their problem and they should be kicked out. She shouldn't be kicked out because she is who she is. She shouldn't be kicked out because others can't deal with who she is. She wouldn't have anything to stand on if she sued the government. As it stands now, Transgenders cannot serve in the military. DADT does not extend to them. It wouldn't be their problem alone, though. It will no doubt effect the group, but the negative social ramifications would indeed cause conflict, both external and internal, for Beck. |
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Post by slappy on Jun 4, 2013 20:50:42 GMT -5
She gets kicked out and then she sues the government and gets back in. If other soldiers harass her then that is their problem and they should be kicked out. She shouldn't be kicked out because she is who she is. She shouldn't be kicked out because others can't deal with who she is. She wouldn't have anything to stand on if she sued the government. As it stands now, Transgenders cannot serve in the military. DADT does not extend to them. It wouldn't be their problem alone, though. It will no doubt effect the group, but the negative social ramifications would indeed cause conflict, both external and internal, for Beck. It's discrimination. It doesn't matter if DADT doesn't extend to Transgender people, the government does not have the right to discriminate. There isn't an asterisk next to "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" that says *does not apply to Transgender people. That is everyone's problem but hers. If they cannot accept her (or at least tolerate) then  them. They are all about defending the rights of Americans but the only ones that can defend the rights are straight white men then just straight men and some women and recently people who aren't Transgender or anything else society may not approve of including still some women. Those with power like John McCain are still not supportive of women in combat. So even if she was born a woman McCain and others still wouldn't let her be a Navy Seal. |
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