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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 19:28:25 GMT -5
I'd love more legends. I like both but I really enjoy my legends. Like Akeem is not exactly an impressive fig but I remember watching him and enjoy his ridiculous look.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 20:23:13 GMT -5
I think the point here is that out of the people here that are vocal about not enough legends, most are probably looking for old school 80s/early 90s
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Post by East Coast on Jun 7, 2013 20:39:30 GMT -5
my point was to show classic only collectors.......that don't feel they're getting enough to complete a collection
that ppl who collect current figs........are actually getting even less product to fill out their roster.
there are an average of 12 legends in the elite waves per year, compared to 5 first time in the line figs from the current WWE.
Which means if 2014 only has 5 first timers.....we'll get Big E, Roman Reigns and maybe Bray Wyatt......leaving potentially only 2 more slots in 2014 for any other first timers
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 21:39:32 GMT -5
gotcha, but even if current fans only got 1 first in the line per year , I would still feel there wasn't enough old school figures coming out.... even if current roster elites got canned all together I would still feel there isn't enough old school figures coming out , that may be just me , but I collect old school figures which when I started collecting they were coming out at 6 every 2 months I think plus d.m's and basics .... now I can only buy one 80's guy every 6 months it seems
you should do a chart of how many elite re-releases and re-paints they did in the same year, to show how many big show figures, how many rey figures, sin cara, alberto del rio etc etc
Im a Golden Age Collector and out of the Flashbacks I only bought Papa Shango, Big Boss Man, Elizabeth and Honky Tonk Man....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 22:05:47 GMT -5
gotcha, but even if current fans only got 1 first in the line per year , I would still feel there wasn't enough old school figures coming out.... even if current roster elites got canned all together I would still feel there isn't enough old school figures coming out , that may be just me , but I collect old school figures which when I started collecting they were coming out at 6 every 2 months I think plus d.m's and basics .... now I can only buy one 80's guy every 6 months it seems you should do a chart of how many elite re-releases and re-paints they did in the same year, to show how many big show figures, how many rey figures, sin cara, alberto del rio etc etc Im a Golden Age Collector and out of the Flashbacks I only bought Papa Shango, Big Boss Man, Elizabeth and Honky Tonk Man.... That's what I was saying there are less 80's than new faces. We get like 1-2 80's person per year and 5 new faces per year. I get what the OP was saying also, but my point was there are more new faces than 80's and when you call out vocal legends collectors that mostly what you are calling out. So 1-2 per year is still less than 5 per year. Can't we all agree there should be 2 flashback spots each series 1 80's 1 AE then they could even free a spot for a 1st time. everyone ins even mattel because you can't tell me they wont sell it's already been proven they will. Also this half run crap needs to stop look how many people didn't even see nash at retail and I never seen Liz or HTM yet. I had to trade to get my Liz and HTM. These running changes need to stop also do it right the first time.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jun 7, 2013 22:10:14 GMT -5
The legends live did have attitude era figs
Stone Cold (legends 1) The Rock (Legends 3) Bulldog (Legends 3) Pillman (Legends 3) DDP (Matty) Eddie (Legends 6)
WWE uses AE to promote everything now. Gms, toys, magazines, hell even wm.
Either way I love flashbacks but I wish we could have it become its separate line. Like DM figs give us 2 figs every other month or something. That way collectors who only collect legends get more guys and ppl who want current guys get the ones they want.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jun 7, 2013 22:11:12 GMT -5
I do agree we need more 80's guys as well. God I really miss the legends line. And the $12.99 prices :-(
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Post by East Coast on Jun 7, 2013 22:38:40 GMT -5
The legends live did have attitude era figs Stone Cold (legends 1) The Rock (Legends 3) Bulldog (Legends 3) Pillman (Legends 3) DDP (Matty) Eddie (Legends 6) i guess no-one's going to point out that powersofpain88 also mentioned King Booker and JBL as being attitude era figs?? Hulk----if it was up to Apoc......the only Rocks u'd be able to buy are Don Muraco. instead of me getting an elite Usos.......we'd get the Islanders instead of Chewdeezy getting a Billy Gunn or HHH.........it would be Ken Patera and Tom Zenk No Christian or Xpac for Tom........here's Paul Roma and the red rooster [yes i picked awful stuff on purpose....tho i'd probably buy muraco and islanders]
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 7, 2013 22:39:58 GMT -5
All I know is Mattel keeps pumping out those Attitude Era figures and I keep more money in my pocket and also keep seeing them hanging on the shelves for longer periods of time. However, Lawler, HTM, Bossman, Yokozuna and Liz have yet to be hanging (some not even seen) around in any stores around me. (Which consists of 2 TRUs, 5 Walmarts, 2 Kmarts, 4 Targets and 2 Kroger Market places)
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jun 7, 2013 22:45:54 GMT -5
The legends live did have attitude era figs Stone Cold (legends 1) The Rock (Legends 3) Bulldog (Legends 3) Pillman (Legends 3) DDP (Matty) Eddie (Legends 6) i guess no-one's going to point out that powersofpain88 also mentioned King Booker and JBL as being attitude era figs?? Hulk----if it was up to Apoc......the only Rocks u'd be able to buy are Don Muraco. instead of me getting an elite Usos.......we'd get the Islanders instead of Chewdeezy getting a Billy Gunn or HHH.........it would be Ken Patera and Tom Zenk No Christian or Xpac for Tom........here's Paul Roma and the red rooster [yes i picked awful stuff on purpose....tho i'd probably buy muraco and islanders] We all have our preferences which is cool and what makes ppls collections different and unique. Whether ppl want to admit it the AE is very popular and arguably the best time in wrestling. I mean WWE uses it to promote everything, figs, games, ppvs, hell look at the main events from the last 2 wrestlemanias. It's what generates the most profit for WWE and mattel, so we are going to get a lot of them. With that said I would love some more 80's wrestlers and I HOPE WE CAN GET SOME LEGENDS RERELASED! LIKE SGT SLAUGHTER IN CAMO! This is why they need to look into releasing another legends line. I'd be happy with a 2 figs every few months.
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Post by East Coast on Jun 7, 2013 22:56:28 GMT -5
legends collectors act like they're given scraps. Like they're walking in the alley eating out of dumpsters.......and they believe ppl that collect current figs are making it rain....eatin shrimps and waffles over here.
im just saying....the struggle is real, all around
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 7, 2013 23:04:23 GMT -5
i guess no-one's going to point out that powersofpain88 also mentioned King Booker and JBL as being attitude era figs?? Hulk----if it was up to Apoc......the only Rocks u'd be able to buy are Don Muraco. instead of me getting an elite Usos.......we'd get the Islanders instead of Chewdeezy getting a Billy Gunn or HHH.........it would be Ken Patera and Tom Zenk No Christian or Xpac for Tom........here's Paul Roma and the red rooster [yes i picked awful stuff on purpose....tho i'd probably buy muraco and islanders] We all have our preferences which is cool and what makes ppls collections different and unique. Whether ppl want to admit it the AE is very popular and arguably the best time in wrestling. I mean WWE uses it to promote everything, figs, games, ppvs, hell look at the main events from the last 2 wrestlemanias. It's what generates the most profit for WWE and mattel, so we are going to get a lot of them. With that said I would love some more 80's wrestlers and I HOPE WE CAN GET SOME LEGENDS RERELASED! LIKE SGT SLAUGHTER IN CAMO! This is why they need to look into releasing another legends line. I'd be happy with a 2 figs every few months. While I will hands down agree that the Attitude Era was by far the biggest boom period, it would be very hard to convince me that the era is still "presently over" to the current wrestling fans. I think its clear to see that once wrestling became "not cool", a very very large sum of the Attitude Era fans quickly bailed. If it were possible for you remove those the "bandwagon fans" from the attitude era, I think you'd be very surprised that the numbers from the Golden Era, Attitude Era, Ruthless Aggression Era and PG Era would all be very very similar.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jun 7, 2013 23:05:13 GMT -5
legends collectors act like they're given scraps. Like they're walking in the alley eating out of dumpsters.......and they believe ppl that collect current figs are making it rain....eatin shrimps and waffles over here. im just saying....the struggle is real, all around Well its different cuz legends collectors want figs from specific eras, while current guys eventually get a fig. I think mattel has done a good job to get most of the current guys out. It still bothers me that there are jinder mahal and yoshi tatsu figs and we still don't have a Hulk Hogan mattel figure. DAMN YOU TNA!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 23:17:10 GMT -5
out of 27 flashbacks......only 10 are from the attitude era (and thats including WCW figs) thats less than half. So saying that attitude era flashbacks are the majority, isn't true. also there were at least 4 attitude era figs in the legends line King Booker (elite 14)Diesel (elite 16)Kevin Nash (elite 16) Mankind (elite 17) Undertaker (elite 18)Jerry Lawler (elite 18)HBK (elite 19) Stone Cold (RSC) Christian (elite 20) The Giant (elite 22) Undertaker (elite 23)JBL (elite 23)Triple H (elite 23) Trish Stratus (elite 24) Cactus Jack (RSC) Kane (RSC)I'm not sure where you learned to count, but that's 16 AE from what I count and that would be more than half and majority. none of the guys in bold are attitude era the only one that could sorta be considered ae is taker and thats a biiiig stretch
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Post by East Coast on Jun 7, 2013 23:20:45 GMT -5
Well its different cuz legends collectors want figs from specific eras, while current guys eventually get a fig. I think mattel has done a good job to get most of the current guys out. It still bothers me that there are jinder mahal and yoshi tatsu figs and we still don't have a Hulk Hogan mattel figure. DAMN YOU TNA!!! well thats another underlying issue. The legends contracts are already in place. And for the most part will last. Mattel hasn't made a KoKo B Ware......but im sure that he will be available to them whenever they decide to make one. Current wrestlers come and go. Once they leave WWE, thats it. Kendrick, Hardy, JoMo, Low Ki.....leave WWE, Mattel immediately cancels the figure. I don't have an elite Husky Harris, tommy dreamer, Trent Barretta, Hurricane, Shelton Benjamin, Mike Knox, Chris Masters, Sin Cara Negro, Tyler Reks or Umaga. so to me First Time in the Line figs have more priority over legends. Who knows if the Usos, Mason Ryan, Alex Riley, PTP, Otunga, Jinder Mahal, Epico, Primo and ppl like Curt Hawkins will be around long enough to get an elite. Anythings possible, I guess......somehow Big Zeke and Rosa still have jobs. there are gaping holes in the collection, that can be filled now. unlike legends.....where until they have Flair, Sting, Hogan and Angle.......there will always be an enormous hole to fill. I mean seriously.....w/o Hogan....its like having a legends series of basketball figs w/ no Michael Jordan.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jun 7, 2013 23:27:28 GMT -5
Who knows bro. It took mattel how long to get us that damn hbk fb and we're finally getting a taker. I swear if its not purple gloved taker I'm gonna flip.
It's late, rainingband I'm watching wm10 on my ps3 and I'm sitting here thinking how dont we have this wm 10 hbk already? Prob the next big want on my list of guys they can make (Hogan would be #1 if they could actually make him!)
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Post by PJ on Jun 8, 2013 1:37:52 GMT -5
I don't have an elite Husky Harris, tommy dreamer, Trent Barretta, Hurricane, Shelton Benjamin, Mike Knox, Chris Masters, Sin Cara Negro, Tyler Reks or Umaga. so to me First Time in the Line figs have more priority over legends. Who knows if the Usos, Mason Ryan, Alex Riley, PTP, Otunga, Jinder Mahal, Epico, Primo and ppl like Curt Hawkins will be around long enough to get an elite. Anythings possible, I guess......somehow Big Zeke and Rosa still have jobs. Sorry but other than Hurricane, Benjamin and Otunga...maybe you could put Masters in there (but it's stretching it) none of those guys will ever be Elites. They don't have the star power to warrent an Elite. And I'd kill for a Magnificent Muraco figure.
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Post by T on Jun 8, 2013 2:41:15 GMT -5
I'd blame it more on too many Cenas and Reys, rather than too many Flashbacks. Flashbacks generally sell well, whereas we know Rey doesn't.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 8, 2013 3:27:48 GMT -5
I'd like more first-time/current guys - but I'd prefer them over guys like Big Show, Cena, Rey, Orton etc. (not instead of the Flashbacks). I suppose the line needs Cenas and Reys etc. to keep it healthy though. Ideally, I'd like a guaranteed 2 Flashbacks (including 1 Legends-type guy) and 2 first-time/current guys (or a tag-team) every series... the other two could be the popular/regular guys like Cena, Sheamus, Kane etc. I wish there were 8 figures per set...2 guaranteed FB, maybe 3 maineventers aka money makers (ex. Cena, Rey, Ryback) & 3 lower mid card guys in Elite form (ex. Jinder, Cesaro, Truth, Kofi, Drew, Slater,) This. Times a million. I really wish Mattel would at least try a seperate Flashback series though... I think the timing is right and the market is there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 9:06:45 GMT -5
The legends live did have attitude era figs Stone Cold (legends 1) The Rock (Legends 3) Bulldog (Legends 3) Pillman (Legends 3) DDP (Matty) Eddie (Legends 6) i guess no-one's going to point out that powersofpain88 also mentioned King Booker and JBL as being attitude era figs?? Hulk----if it was up to Apoc......the only Rocks u'd be able to buy are Don Muraco. instead of me getting an elite Usos.......we'd get the Islanders instead of Chewdeezy getting a Billy Gunn or HHH.........it would be Ken Patera and Tom Zenk No Christian or Xpac for Tom........here's Paul Roma and the red rooster [yes i picked awful stuff on purpose....tho i'd probably buy muraco and islanders] are you alright this week? where's this all coming from? take a break from collecting if its getting you so worked up yes im the villain whos keeping everyone from getting attitude era and first in the line figs... sorry guys.... the reason you don't have elite husky harris and elite tyler reks has nothing to do with flashbacks, its because mattel didn't even have enough faith in them to put them in the basic line.... and you can easily make the uso's , Hawkins, masters, trent , alex riley and who ever else they made that never got an elite.
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