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Post by Rattlehead on Jun 7, 2013 14:37:34 GMT -5
Not sure where to post this but since it is Mattel related guess I'll post here
Both Jakks and Mattel has the same style Outsiders Kevin Nash, and are about the same height, any specific reason why the Elite Kevin Nash is worth more than the Classic Deluxe Nash? The Jakks version looks a lot more like Kevin Nassh which is why I don't understand the value of the elite version.
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Post by slappy on Jun 7, 2013 14:40:36 GMT -5
Newer, harder to find, better articulation.
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Post by Figure kingdom on Jun 7, 2013 14:41:13 GMT -5
Because no one wants out of scale and out dated and less detailed Jakks figures.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Jun 7, 2013 15:16:52 GMT -5
The Mattel Nash is in scale and has tassels both which Jakks lacked. I hope they re-release this figure at some point, I missed out on it.
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Post by Rattlehead on Jun 7, 2013 16:03:27 GMT -5
I thought they were the same height, I love the jakks headscan though, looks a lot more like Nash. I wonder how the Jakks head looks on the mattels body
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2013 16:08:30 GMT -5
Because Mattel are 10x better than Jakks have ever been,most jakks figures are completely dreadful,the only reason the headscans are better sometimes is the fact the heads are a lot bigger than Mattel's
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jun 7, 2013 16:22:58 GMT -5
Neither head is perfect but mattel just does it better. Just look at the diff between the 2 nWo belts.
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Post by RybackV1 on Jun 7, 2013 16:23:27 GMT -5
Mattels Nash is one of the best figures I've ever owned. You can't compare ANY Mattel Elite to that horrific line that was DA.
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Post by raVen™ on Jun 7, 2013 16:36:33 GMT -5
To add to what has been said, Mattel seems to make about 50% less figures than jakks did, so if Jakks made (don't know what sets it came from) 30,000 of those Nashs, Mattel Probably made 15,000 Diesels. That means about 5-10,000 Nashs. This is mainly what determines a figures worth, aside from How many people want it. The after market of a figure (3 monthes after the next set comes out) is determined by how many of the original bunch is in the hands of people who didn't want it.
10 years ago, 3 months after a Jakks figure came out, its worth went down. But with Mattel, because they produced so little of each figure, The value goes up. The Mattel Nash just happens to be the .5 per case figure and everyone that wants it already has it by now and if you're new to collecting you have to pay to get it out of their collection, or they sell it at a marked up price because there's so few out there to compete against.
With Mattels, if you're not getting it from a store, it's gonna be at least $5 more, And dare I say worth almost the same amount moc or loose. I only ever see a $5-$15 difference if moc vs loose prices and its usually the shipping. The E21 Ryback will probably drop to retail price in the next couple of weeks, 3 and 2 per case I think he'll be easy to find, unless your store doesn't get E21 at all.
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Post by Rattlehead on Jun 7, 2013 16:37:59 GMT -5
I plan on getting both eitherway but I was just wondering why is it that mattels was more in price/value
Now the NWO belts is one I completely understand haha
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Post by marino13 on Jun 7, 2013 16:39:16 GMT -5
Jakks Kevin Nash was shorter than Jakks Scott Hall. Nuff said really.
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Post by Rattlehead on Jun 7, 2013 16:45:32 GMT -5
To add to what has been said, Mattel seems to make about 50% less figures than jakks did, so if Jakks made (don't know what sets it came from) 30,000 of those Nashs, Mattel Probably made 15,000 Diesels. That means about 5-10,000 Nashs. This is mainly what determines a figures worth, aside from How many people want it. The after market of a figure (3 monthes after the next set comes out) is determined by how many of the original bunch is in the hands of people who didn't want it. 10 years ago, 3 months after a Jakks figure came out, its worth went down. But with Mattel, because they produced so little of each figure, The value goes up. The Mattel Nash just happens to be the .5 per case figure and everyone that wants it already has it by now and if you're new to collecting you have to pay to get it out of their collection, or they sell it at a marked up price because there's so few out there to compete against. With Mattels, if you're not getting it from a store, it's gonna be at least $5 more, And dare I say worth almost the same amount moc or loose. I only ever see a $5-$15 difference if moc vs loose prices and its usually the shipping. The E21 Ryback will probably drop to retail price in the next couple of weeks, 3 and 2 per case I think he'll be easy to find, unless your store doesn't get E21 at all. This is actually more of the answer I was looking for, makes lot more sense, thank you!
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Post by raVen™ on Jun 7, 2013 16:52:35 GMT -5
To add to what has been said, Mattel seems to make about 50% less figures than jakks did, so if Jakks made (don't know what sets it came from) 30,000 of those Nashs, Mattel Probably made 15,000 Diesels. That means about 5-10,000 Nashs. This is mainly what determines a figures worth, aside from How many people want it. The after market of a figure (3 monthes after the next set comes out) is determined by how many of the original bunch is in the hands of people who didn't want it. 10 years ago, 3 months after a Jakks figure came out, its worth went down. But with Mattel, because they produced so little of each figure, The value goes up. The Mattel Nash just happens to be the .5 per case figure and everyone that wants it already has it by now and if you're new to collecting you have to pay to get it out of their collection, or they sell it at a marked up price because there's so few out there to compete against. With Mattels, if you're not getting it from a store, it's gonna be at least $5 more, And dare I say worth almost the same amount moc or loose. I only ever see a $5-$15 difference if moc vs loose prices and its usually the shipping. The E21 Ryback will probably drop to retail price in the next couple of weeks, 3 and 2 per case I think he'll be easy to find, unless your store doesn't get E21 at all. This is actually more of the answer I was looking for, makes lot more sense, thank you! Glad I could be of help. What a figure looks like has nothing to do with its after market worth. It's simply how many are available for purchase at any given time. Before the internet, if there was no other figure to compare the price to, it reverted back to what ever you paid for it. lol.
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Post by qdogg on Jun 8, 2013 10:55:15 GMT -5
I never saw Nash at retail nor have I ever seen Elizabeth and I only saw Elite 17 Kelly Kelly one time (with a smeared belt I might add). My area seems to rarely get those revision cases.
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Post by retrojordanwwefigure on Jun 8, 2013 11:17:46 GMT -5
I never saw Nash at retail I had to pay ridiculous price for mine they ringside ,the way they packaged this Nash should never be done again ,I mean it was cool to get both his diesel and Nash figure but the way it was broke down made it impossible to find some my local stores Got elite 16 0-3 times and Nash wasn't found cuz guy that works my local wal mart snagged it while he was workin but def don't do a case like this again ,awesome to get both his characters but terrible trying to find it !!
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Post by Joejitsu22 on Jun 8, 2013 12:25:29 GMT -5
To add to what has been said, Mattel seems to make about 50% less figures than jakks did, so if Jakks made (don't know what sets it came from) 30,000 of those Nashs, Mattel Probably made 15,000 Diesels. That means about 5-10,000 Nashs. This is mainly what determines a figures worth, aside from How many people want it. The after market of a figure (3 monthes after the next set comes out) is determined by how many of the original bunch is in the hands of people who didn't want it. 10 years ago, 3 months after a Jakks figure came out, its worth went down. But with Mattel, because they produced so little of each figure, The value goes up. The Mattel Nash just happens to be the .5 per case figure and everyone that wants it already has it by now and if you're new to collecting you have to pay to get it out of their collection, or they sell it at a marked up price because there's so few out there to compete against. With Mattels, if you're not getting it from a store, it's gonna be at least $5 more, And dare I say worth almost the same amount moc or loose. I only ever see a $5-$15 difference if moc vs loose prices and its usually the shipping. The E21 Ryback will probably drop to retail price in the next couple of weeks, 3 and 2 per case I think he'll be easy to find, unless your store doesn't get E21 at all. This is actually more of the answer I was looking for, makes lot more sense, thank you! Nash and diesel were both packed at .5 per case. Assortment A was diesel assortment b was nash. They both would have same production numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 15:33:36 GMT -5
They are both amazing figures! I remember seeing Nash at retail!! I only seen him once in my area!.... And it was all mine!! I was serveral Diesel figs... Wish I bought them all lol! But, only got 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 15:36:53 GMT -5
I would say Diesel is the better of the 2, but Nash is more iconic and came with the only Mattel WCW NWO Championship. So a lot of people edge Nash over Diesel. However.... I'm glad to see The Giant being added to the NWO figure mix!! Too Sweet!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 17:57:59 GMT -5
Because that Mattel one is just better. Way better detail and the belt makes it. My favorite figure I own, by far.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jun 8, 2013 18:38:19 GMT -5
I never saw Nash at retail nor have I ever seen Elizabeth and I only saw Elite 17 Kelly Kelly one time (with a smeared belt I might add). My area seems to rarely get those revision cases. Kelly Kelly was definitely in Case A of Elite 17, and warmed shelves all over the UK for months.
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