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Post by CBT on Aug 16, 2007 18:16:49 GMT -5
You seriously need your head checked, I can't even quote you, because your thinking is so far to the left I can't make right or wrong of it.
I'll just put something clear, TNA SHOUD NOT BE GIVEN 2 HOURS, if they CAN NOT PRODUCE GOOD SHOWS.
I mean, ECW's roster is thin, but they do what it takes to make an hour work, TNA just hasn't been on in quite a while.
But seriously, I don't know what to say to you, especially when you call those who are disgruntled, "marks."
Your idea of how a company should be handled is not mine, and if it weren't for TNA at one time showing promise, your breed of fan would be long gone 6 years ago.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 16, 2007 18:21:58 GMT -5
I would rather watch Umaga/Cena than Joe/Angle or Christian/Joe.
... That didn't take too much effort to say.
I think Angle is decent at best. Past his prime, but still decent. His matches with Joe were again, decent at best. Angle is by no means capable or worthy of holding EVERY title in TNA. World Title? Yes... but he shouldn't have the X Title or the Tag Title... What a joke.
I think you need to stop being such a blind TNA fan and realize that things need to change before they can be considered anything... 2 hour timeslot should give them an opportunity to showcase their talent... too bad decent booking is required to accurately showcase their talent...
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Post by thevileone on Aug 16, 2007 19:03:49 GMT -5
I love it when someone who can't spell posting on a message board for wrestling action figures calls ME a mark.
Yup and I'm not the only mark around here.
The spoilers for Impact looked terrible.
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Post by The Raven Effect on Aug 16, 2007 19:05:20 GMT -5
Good. TNA would be better off dead. Panda would stop losing millions of dollars. Many of the guys who are good workers and have been asking to get out of their contracts would finally be out. Guys who are getting paid a lot of money can easily go elsewhere and make the same amount. And the guys who suck? Well, they were lucky to be employed in the first place.
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Post by eso on Aug 17, 2007 0:16:40 GMT -5
i love that show between the ropes.
i havent had the chance to listen for the last 3 weeks..but its one of my favorite shows.. that goes for tv and radio
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Post by THE *Legendary* STINGER on Aug 17, 2007 2:11:18 GMT -5
cant spell?
yeah...you're a moron.
and TNA was good tonight, they are starting a fued up with Joe and Christian..what couldnt you like about THAT?
the only gay thing was "Team Pacman" gets a title shot.
I am done fighting with you guys. If you dont like TNA anymore dont watch it, I really dont care.
Go back to WWE.
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Post by thevileone on Aug 17, 2007 2:14:40 GMT -5
The character is called an apostrophe. It is on your keyboard. Use it. So what? He feuded with Christian for all the gold and lost. Does this mean he'll actually win the world title this time? Yup, because Jim Cornette the walking contradiction proclaims in TNA YOU HAVE TO EARN YOUR TITLE SHOTS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY! NO ONE GETS HANDED ANYTHING. Then Pacman Jones gets a tag title shot on PPV. Jones who cannot wrestle by law. Proof of how intellectually- disabled and MORONIC the TNA booking team and management is. And you have the unmitigated gall to call me moronic. This is the best argument of blind and delusional TNA marks. I'm not watching WWE right now. Their product is sour and the way they've handled themselves in light of the Benoit tragedy has been terrible. |
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Post by THE *Legendary* STINGER on Aug 17, 2007 2:57:02 GMT -5
dude, im not going to type like im writting an essay, its a  in wrestling forum. But just so you know im majoring in journalism you ass. I really am getting sick of fighting with you, you're bitching to me like I can make everything perfect. no one is ever happy with anything. you attacking TNA in every thread is bull crapthough. you need to stop. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 17, 2007 3:23:08 GMT -5
dude, im not going to type like im writting an essay, its a in wrestling forum. But just so you know im majoring in journalism you ass. I really am getting sick of fighting with you, you're bitching to me like I can make everything perfect. no one is ever happy with anything. you attacking TNA in every thread is bull **** though. you need to stop. You proclaiming your blind love to TNA in every thread is also bullshit. Seriously, there is liking the product and then there is being obsessed with the promotion. You sir are obsessed with the product. You don't admit to any flaws in the product even though there are obvious glaring ones. I would like to become a TNA fan again but their shoddy booking so damn brutal that I just can't pull myself to like it. Plus, whoever says that TNA's product would get better with two hours is just lying to themselves. Seriously, they are having trouble booking 6 hours of wrestling a month... imagine how they would handle 10 hours of wrestling a month. I just don't see the product getting better unless they drastically change alot of things... |
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Post by deskjet on Aug 17, 2007 3:57:58 GMT -5
I read the spoilers for TNA.. it sounds like two good shows, Idk what the HELL you are talking about. you guys are acting like MARKS because some of your wrestlers are losing matches to bad guys.. oh wow..did you not see Lashley get dominated by Kennedy on WWE and they pumped Lashley to the point of where he could almost beat Cena. ITS A WRESTLING SHOW, JUST WATCH THE DAMN THING AND STOP BITCHING ATLEAST ITS NOT A 2 YEAR CHAMPION WITH NO WRESTLING SKILLS, WE HAVE A TRIPLE CROWN CHAMPION WITH AMAZING WRESTLING SKILLS... Kurt Angle is amazing and the best wrestler in the world today. Just because booking has been bad for a few weeks (aka 3 shows) doesnt mean TNA will be bad forever. WWE has had bad booking for MONTHS...you tell me you'd rather go watch Cena vs Umaga, then Angle vs Joe or Christian and Joe. if TNA fails at their two hour show then I will agree with you.. but if not. You people should shut up. Cant argue with that...or those stats. I'm gonna try not to be so critical and just watch...for about a week  |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 17, 2007 3:59:42 GMT -5
You are right. I should just sit down, shut up and accept the fact that TNA is never going to get better because I am supposed to just sit down and not complain because things are perfect.
Seriously, they can't change the product unless someone tells them the problems with their product...
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Post by thevileone on Aug 17, 2007 6:50:35 GMT -5
That's right, this is a wrestling forum.
So don't go around calling me a mark like you aren't one yourself.
You don't post on these forums WITHOUT being a mark.
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Post by THE *Legendary* STINGER on Aug 17, 2007 14:09:23 GMT -5
dude, im not going to type like im writting an essay, its a in wrestling forum. But just so you know im majoring in journalism you ass. I really am getting sick of fighting with you, you're bitching to me like I can make everything perfect. no one is ever happy with anything. you attacking TNA in every thread is bull **** though. you need to stop. You proclaiming your blind love to TNA in every thread is also bull ****. Seriously, there is liking the product and then there is being obsessed with the promotion. You sir are obsessed with the product. You don't admit to any flaws in the product even though there are obvious glaring ones. I would like to become a TNA fan again but their shoddy booking so damn brutal that I just can't pull myself to like it. Plus, whoever says that TNA's product would get better with two hours is just lying to themselves. Seriously, they are having trouble booking 6 hours of wrestling a month... imagine how they would handle 10 hours of wrestling a month. I just don't see the product getting better unless they drastically change alot of things... thats a bold face lie. I just posted a thread not even a week ago saying how I was bashing on TNA's myspace and they banned me from the comments. but then sodaguy told me that its some chick running the account so its pointless bitching to her. and from then on I stopped bitching to people who HAVE NO CONTROL over the way impact is ran. the thing that pissed me off is you people saying "Im done watching TNA" because the MCMG arent in the main event. dude wait for a two hour show..they WILL use everyone to their fullest. and the mark comment was because you guys are getting upset that your favorite wrestlers like Joe and MCMG arent headliners with the straps. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 17, 2007 15:41:29 GMT -5
I was done watching TNA on a regular basis when they moved to FSN and stopped having their weekly PPV shows on Wednesdays... that was when I stopped caring because they had brought in Johnny Fairplay but then he left so I started watching again. Then they moved to a network that I couldn't watch here in Canada less I have a sattelite dish... So my interest in TNA was effectively killed then. The only time I have watched iMPACT is when someone I enjoy is on TV and most times, they are jobbing out anyway so why watch when the only people I like are either not on TV or are jobbing out when they are?
TNA is just plain dumb... and for the record, I don't much care for Joe or Sabin being pushed but I would like to see Shelley doing something ie winning the X-Title... They could easily have Kurt as World Champ, MCMG as Tag champs and Joe as X champ... Then alot of people would stop complaining. Why don't they do what they used to do and actually listen to what the die hard fans that have been there since the beginning want... rather than the douchebag casual fans who really don't care about TNA...
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Post by THE *Legendary* STINGER on Aug 17, 2007 15:44:47 GMT -5
they are trying to do whats best for the business. I can only imagine how hard it is to run a company.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 17, 2007 16:04:45 GMT -5
they are trying to do whats best for the business. I can only imagine how hard it is to run a company. They are doing what's best for business by shitting all over the fans they have in an effort to attain the fans they can't get? Smart business alright -_- |
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Post by deskjet on Aug 17, 2007 18:30:51 GMT -5
Stephanie Fears Dixie, you make some good points. I think I'm guilty of this in thinking that jsut becasue the IWC wants the "homegrown' talent to excel doesnt necessarily its good for the business, at least in regards to name recognition. that's why I'm just kinda backin off to see how things play out. If you look at things a certain way, TNA's numbers didnt really improve until they actually got guys like Angle/Cage so you can make an argument for name recognition there, and honestly there hasnt been a significant drop off or increase for that matter, but then again, guys like test, 3d, dustin aren't quite on the same level as kurt and christian...not knowcking the other guys but when you talk avbout name draws, that's just the way it's always been. and if you look back at the rise of WCW, they kept their numbers high becasue they drew in the casula fans...they still had a base number when they declined who was faithful to WCW. I think this is what is happening with TNA...they have a base and in time they'll bring in the casual fan. Hoepfully thought jarret and Russo learn for the prior wcw mistakes and dont baeary the younger talent...i think thats the big fear I have.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 17, 2007 18:34:24 GMT -5
Dude... they had Angle/Sting on FREE TV and they STILL couldn't draw more than a 1.1 rating... that to me signals that there is something drastically wrong with the way they are using their talent. If I wanted to watch WWE talent like Tomko, The Dudleyz or Rhino or Raven I would go watch old episodes of Sunday Night Heat which was getting simalar ratings to what iMPACT is getting now without people like Kurt Angle, Sting, Christian, Samoa Joe and others having to be on it...
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Post by deskjet on Aug 17, 2007 18:54:43 GMT -5
Dude... they had Angle/Sting on FREE TV and they STILL couldn't draw more than a 1.1 rating... that to me signals that there is something drastically wrong with the way they are using their talent. If I wanted to watch WWE talent like Tomko, The Dudleyz or Rhino or Raven I would go watch old episodes of Sunday Night Heat which was getting simalar ratings to what iMPACT is getting now without people like Kurt Angle, Sting, Christian, Samoa Joe and others having to be on it... perhaps its just that the casual fan is no longer interested? WWE has there 3.0-3.5 fan base whcih rarely changes...TNA has there 1.0-1.2 fan base which rarely changes. Its gonna take something drastic to pull the casual fan back in...thats waht wwe/Tna are trying to do. let's face it, the days of the monday night wars amongst the wrestling community is over...the casual fan is rarely interested at all no matter what you do...I think thats evident in the consistently unchangeable ratings week in and week out in the wwe and tna in spite of the different things each company tries to do. I mean hell, look at Smackdown..2.0's for that garbage? that's your fanbase, the wwe faithful and its not gonna change becase people that arent fans just arent interested. SD certainly doesnt deserve that high of rating. Like i said when WCW went down, there core stayed, but the casual fan left. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 17, 2007 19:05:34 GMT -5
Dude... they had Angle/Sting on FREE TV and they STILL couldn't draw more than a 1.1 rating... that to me signals that there is something drastically wrong with the way they are using their talent. If I wanted to watch WWE talent like Tomko, The Dudleyz or Rhino or Raven I would go watch old episodes of Sunday Night Heat which was getting simalar ratings to what iMPACT is getting now without people like Kurt Angle, Sting, Christian, Samoa Joe and others having to be on it... perhaps its just that the casual fan is no longer interested? WWE has there 3.0-3.5 fan base whcih rarely changes...TNA has there 1.0-1.2 fan base which rarely changes. Its gonna take something drastic to pull the casual fan back in...thats waht wwe/Tna are trying to do. let's face it, the days of the monday night wars amongst the wrestling community is over...the casual fan is rarely interested at all no matter what you do...I think thats evident in the consistently unchangeable ratings week in and week out in the wwe and tna in spite of the different things each company tries to do. I mean hell, look at Smackdown..2.0's for that garbage? that's your fanbase, the wwe faithful and its not gonna change becase people that arent fans just arent interested. SD certainly doesnt deserve that high of rating. Like i said when WCW went down, there core stayed, but the casual fan left. I gotta find a clip from the Jim Cornette shoot interview... he talked exactly about this whole audience thing... |
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