Daniel F'n Bryan
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 5, 2013 13:46:52 GMT -5
Or I think the point is - when I think of former Hardcore Champions - Kane is about the least person that comes to mind... According to the list of former Hardcore Champions on Wikipedia, Undertaker held the title for two months in 2002 - so what would you think if he came with the Hardcore belt? According to the same list - Kane only held that title for 16 days.... "Hardcore Kane" just seems like an odd choice for an exclusive.... Kane comes to mind because of WM17. I would have loved to see Raven as the exclusive. As he has always been my favorite. But the Hardcore title to me, screams names like Crash, Hardcore Holly, Al Snow, Steve Blackmen, Road Dogg, and Raven. All would have been great to choose from. I wish Mattel was as passionate about talent signings as Jakks was. Mattel doesn't seem to " chase" signatures. And yet we have Steamboat, Savage, Elizabeth, The Von Erichs, and a cancelled Magnum TA all of which Jakks claimed they couldn't do at one point or another.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 5, 2013 13:57:19 GMT -5
i agree the last person i think of is kane when i think hardcore title. Flash Rey, HC Kane and Cactus were lame exclusives.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jul 5, 2013 14:32:23 GMT -5
Kane comes to mind because of WM17. I would have loved to see Raven as the exclusive. As he has always been my favorite. But the Hardcore title to me, screams names like Crash, Hardcore Holly, Al Snow, Steve Blackmen, Road Dogg, and Raven. All would have been great to choose from. I wish Mattel was as passionate about talent signings as Jakks was. Mattel doesn't seem to " chase" signatures. And yet we have Steamboat, Savage, Elizabeth, The Von Erichs, and a cancelled Magnum TA all of which Jakks claimed they couldn't do at one point or another. Steamboat was unable to be made by Jakks because of his legal name trouble with his ex wife at the time. He was in the process of getting the rights to it back. Macho Man was on bad terms with WWE and recently had made up with them and i beliveve signed the legends deal which is hoe Mattel was able to get him. The rest i am really unsure of though.
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Post by PJ on Jul 5, 2013 14:37:34 GMT -5
As far as RSC exclusives go they have always been repaints of characters already released. I think only the Taz was a first time figure. (meaning it was his first RA styled figure) i agree the last person i think of is kane when i think hardcore title. Flash Rey, HC Kane and Cactus were lame exclusives. I have to disagree with Cactus. I think it is one of Mattel's top 10 figures.
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Daniel F'n Bryan
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 5, 2013 14:42:54 GMT -5
As far as RSC exclusives go they have always been repaints of characters already released. I think only the Taz was a first time figure. (meaning it was his first RA styled figure) i agree the last person i think of is kane when i think hardcore title. Flash Rey, HC Kane and Cactus were lame exclusives. I have to disagree with Cactus. I think it is one of Mattel's top 10 figures. If he had Tape on both arms instead of only 1 I cannot say i'd disagree with this statement.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 5, 2013 14:47:59 GMT -5
As far as RSC exclusives go they have always been repaints of characters already released. I think only the Taz was a first time figure. (meaning it was his first RA styled figure) i agree the last person i think of is kane when i think hardcore title. Flash Rey, HC Kane and Cactus were lame exclusives. I have to disagree with Cactus. I think it is one of Mattel's top 10 figures. Cactus was good but the lack of wrist tape and useless accessories could have been better. Cactus was so animated and he has this plain scan. What really could have made this a cool exclusive is if he came with the bang bang hands that could be swapped out with the regular hands.
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Post by Bandalero on Jul 5, 2013 14:57:22 GMT -5
for safety/political reasons I can see why "bang bang" hands were not an option, but certainly they could have done his tongue-between-gap-in-teeth scan - I agree that is expression is so lifeless.
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Post by PJ on Jul 5, 2013 15:14:20 GMT -5
Yes, but Jakks did both the hands and the tongue expression. So I like it because he is different from Jakks. That's the same reason I like Mattel's NWA Hawk over Jakks version.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 5, 2013 15:17:04 GMT -5
Yes, but Jakks did both the hands and the tongue expression. So I like it because he is different from Jakks. That's the same reason I like Mattel's NWA Hawk over Jakks version. Yea but mattel does everything better. I could only imagine if they took a crack at it.
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Post by PJ on Jul 5, 2013 15:29:18 GMT -5
Yes, but in a way I'm glad they sometimes choose different expressions/attires, because I kept all my CS/CSDA so I like them to be different.
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Post by NikeGuy on Jul 5, 2013 18:13:44 GMT -5
Kane comes to mind because of WM17. I would have loved to see Raven as the exclusive. As he has always been my favorite. But the Hardcore title to me, screams names like Crash, Hardcore Holly, Al Snow, Steve Blackmen, Road Dogg, and Raven. All would have been great to choose from. I wish Mattel was as passionate about talent signings as Jakks was. Mattel doesn't seem to " chase" signatures. And yet we have Steamboat, Savage, Elizabeth, The Von Erichs, and a cancelled Magnum TA all of which Jakks claimed they couldn't do at one point or another. THE amount of Legends Jakks did for us compared to Mattel Apples to Oranges... We got THE SHOCKMASTER for christ sake! If I was a legends only collector (like some people on his board) I would have stuck with Jakks. Yes I know Mattel is a lot better then Jakks (with scaling & Part Molds) BUT... How many awesome legends did Jakks give us that Mattel will NEVER produce?
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Post by Bandalero on Jul 5, 2013 18:31:05 GMT -5
"The Shockmaster" and "awesome legends" just does not compute.
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Post by NikeGuy on Jul 5, 2013 18:43:09 GMT -5
"The Shockmaster" and "awesome legends" just does not compute.
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Post by FFK on Jul 5, 2013 18:44:44 GMT -5
They need variety. That's one thing that's lacking. Instead of 2 Kane's give us a repaint of HBK. All you would have to do is change the color of his pants or give us a SCSA in shorts or something different. Something tells me Mrs. Foley's baby boy has another exclusive coming.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 18:51:15 GMT -5
personally I have enjoyed them....
Cactus Jack 2002/03 Kane Macho King nWo Macho
have all been great.
I really hope we get an nWo Nash and USA Warrior from RSC at some point.both seem like no brainers to me.USA Warrior from RR91 must be the most wanted UW attire not yet made and because Outsiders Nash is so pricey an nWo version(he had some cool attires)with a shirt would be epic.
lets get cracking Mattel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 19:17:13 GMT -5
I agree, the cactus jack figure is outstanding - would love to see a dude love to complete the Mattel line of the faces of Foley.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 19:43:43 GMT -5
Cactus Jack Is awesome. I am more disappointed that the hardcore title isnt vac metal.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Jul 5, 2013 19:55:06 GMT -5
personally I have enjoyed them.... Cactus Jack 2002/03 Kane Macho King nWo Macho have all been great. I really hope we get an nWo Nash and USA Warrior from RSC at some point.both seem like no brainers to me.USA Warrior from RR91 must be the most wanted UW attire not yet made and because Outsiders Nash is so pricey an nWo version(he had some cool attires)with a shirt would be epic. lets get cracking Mattel. nWo Nash would be amazing.
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Post by PJ on Jul 5, 2013 19:57:58 GMT -5
Cactus Jack Is awesome. I am more disappointed that the hardcore title isnt vac metal. Why would it be? It looked exactly like that in real life. (minus a couple paint bloches) but as far as the plates go it's spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 20:04:34 GMT -5
Cactus Jack Is awesome. I am more disappointed that the hardcore title isnt vac metal. Why would it be? It looked exactly like that in real life. (minus a couple paint bloches) but as far as the plates go it's spot on. I prefer the look of the vac metal belts and considering it is an exclusive at a higher price point, i would have preferred it shiny. l also i prefer a more uniform look with the rest of the belts i have.
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