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Post by PJ on Jul 11, 2013 7:27:37 GMT -5
It should be boring. I should be able to walk into a store and find the product on the shelves. My brother is 11 years old and he goes figure hunting with me frequently. When we go to a store, and he's looking for that figure he's been wanting, and they didnt have it, he's really disappointed. FOR FIVE SECONDS! You guys act like because of somebody buying extra figures to sell, you're crushing kids souls! Not even close. If somebody wants to buy more than 1 of a figure to sell the other, then thats their decision. Honestly, if the kid wanted the figure as bad as you people are making it seem like, he'd go online and buy the figure. And don't you dare come at me with "But then he'll have to pay scalper prices online." Because if I wanted a figure that bad, to the point where it was "crushing my dreams", I wouldn't mind paying an extra couple bucks for it. Sorry this is the stupidest post I've read in quite some time. What kid is going to go online and buy a figure? Were is the money/credit card coming to pay for it? I couldn't tell you how many times when my daughter was younger I said no to buying her something online because it was 2-3 more times than what it should have been. And I am sure I'm not the only parent who feels that way. I applied the same rules to her that I used on myself. If it wasn't something I (or she) wanted enough to preorder if we didn't find it in the store then we just didn't get it. I don't feed scalpers. Eventually she would get it at TRU because I had a couple employees who would keep an eye out for it and put it aside for her.
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Post by tampatoys813 on Jul 11, 2013 7:38:41 GMT -5
I agree with everything this man is saying!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 8:16:49 GMT -5
Scalpers are the reason why internetshopping has become my source for collecting. Which I absolutly hate. There was a kid here not too long ago that bought out his entire TRU stock of Teddy Long BAFs , which was like almost 4 full sets, then someone posted on his pics that was from the same area that hit the same TRU and was sad he couldn't find Teddy!!! all scalpers. all customisers. If your buying out figures for sales or destruction you can kiss my ass.... If its RSC or online shopping, I could care less. But if your trolling every store in your citu grabbing everything in site to put on ebay or here for profit an not assistance ( a few dollars above retail) then you!!! Like already stated, you need money? Go get a job, get 2 jobs. Unless you're buying 10 cases a week, there is no turn around profit from these figures... Scalping is my 2nd job. What's more important to me??? You or my children?!?!? While your argument is a bit 1 sided, we all do what we can to live and let live. I provide a service to people. Wether the items come from retail, garage sales, storage auctions, or out of my personal collection.... People have wants, I'll never agree with small minded thinking. If it wasn't for guys like me or you, there would be a second market. Does everyone hate Edge?? If you have the opportunity and the smarts, you would be on this side of the argument. Personally, most of my stock come from collectors that don't have an reasonable outlet to rid themselves of there collections, items with BIN prices that are naive, clearance bins, and extras from case orders on RSC. I don't mess with flipping basics or the rest of the crap.... Just elites.... That being said. I order 1 case off RSC for each set. By definition, I might be bundled into the scalper list. But, you realize scalper are the majority here?!?!?
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Post by mrtheiphonekid on Jul 11, 2013 8:36:57 GMT -5
It should be boring. I should be able to walk into a store and find the product on the shelves. Sorry this is the stupidest post I've read in quite some time. What kid is going to go online and buy a figure? Were is the money/credit card coming to pay for it? I couldn't tell you how many times when my daughter was younger I said no to buying her something online because it was 2-3 more times than what it should have been. And I am sure I'm not the only parent who feels that way. I applied the same rules to her that I used on myself. If it wasn't something I (or she) wanted enough to preorder if we didn't find it in the store then we just didn't get it. I don't feed scalpers. Eventually she would get it at TRU because I had a couple employees who would keep an eye out for it and put it aside for her. I'm not saying people should pay 3x retail for a toy. I'm saying if that figure that they wanted so desperately isn't in the stores and its crushing their poor little souls that much, there are other means of getting the figure.
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Post by 5D's on Jul 11, 2013 9:00:40 GMT -5
Scalpers are the reason why internetshopping has become my source for collecting. Which I absolutly hate. There was a kid here not too long ago that bought out his entire TRU stock of Teddy Long BAFs , which was like almost 4 full sets, then someone posted on his pics that was from the same area that hit the same TRU and was sad he couldn't find Teddy!!! all scalpers. all customisers. If your buying out figures for sales or destruction you can kiss my ass.... If its RSC or online shopping, I could care less. But if your trolling every store in your citu grabbing everything in site to put on ebay or here for profit an not assistance ( a few dollars above retail) then you!!! Like already stated, you need money? Go get a job, get 2 jobs. Unless you're buying 10 cases a week, there is no turn around profit from these figures... Scalping is my 2nd job. What's more important to me??? You or my children?!?!? While your argument is a bit 1 sided, we all do what we can to live and let live. I provide a service to people. Wether the items come from retail, garage sales, storage auctions, or out of my personal collection.... People have wants, I'll never agree with small minded thinking. If it wasn't for guys like me or you, there would be a second market. Does everyone hate Edge?? If you have the opportunity and the smarts, you would be on this side of the argument. Personally, most of my stock come from collectors that don't have an reasonable outlet to rid themselves of there collections, items with BIN prices that are naive, clearance bins, and extras from case orders on RSC. I don't mess with flipping basics or the rest of the crap.... Just elites.... That being said. I order 1 case off RSC for each set. By definition, I might be bundled into the scalper list. But, you realize scalper are the majority here?!?!? All the methods you listed aren't what he's complaining about though. There's a BIG difference between selling someone's Skip Sheffield that they bought 2 years ago and decided they don't really want anymore for $100 profit VS deliberately wiping out all 15 Rybacks to sell at twice the price while leaving a ton of Brodus Clay and Rey that never move on the shelf. First example is a harmless way to make money, second is greedy bullcrap that royally screws up distribution as well as everyone's collections.
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Post by PJ on Jul 11, 2013 9:28:47 GMT -5
It should be boring. I should be able to walk into a store and find the product on the shelves. Sorry this is the stupidest post I've read in quite some time. What kid is going to go online and buy a figure? Were is the money/credit card coming to pay for it? I couldn't tell you how many times when my daughter was younger I said no to buying her something online because it was 2-3 more times than what it should have been. And I am sure I'm not the only parent who feels that way. I applied the same rules to her that I used on myself. If it wasn't something I (or she) wanted enough to preorder if we didn't find it in the store then we just didn't get it. I don't feed scalpers. Eventually she would get it at TRU because I had a couple employees who would keep an eye out for it and put it aside for her. I'm not saying people should pay 3x retail for a toy. I'm saying if that figure that they wanted so desperately isn't in the stores and its crushing their poor little souls that much, there are other means of getting the figure. I understood that. It was more about you saying the kids could just go online and get it. But I don't know of any kids who have means to pay for something online. And let's face it any of the popular figures aren't going to be in stock at TRU.com or shop Mattel. And unless it's a hiliday or special occassion parents aren't going to want to spend more than retail as they are already more than likely getting hit with shipping charges...so that turns many parents off.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 9:39:29 GMT -5
There is no right or wrong answer on Scalping as it is more of a moral issue when it comes to toys.
Personally, I dislike it and ran a website for years dedicated to helping Collectors network with each other. If I had the time, I would still be doing it today. There are many collectors that maintain tight schedules between family, work or other factors. Scalping limits their ability to enjoy the hobby. Some are in a demographic that does not afford the luxury of multiple stores to hit on top of this....they also lose out through no fault of their own. Couple this with the fact that most retailers now carry a fraction of the stock they did 10 years ago and you see how hard it is to be a collector today.
There is a negative stereotype to scalpers..and 99% of the time it holds true.
If Collectors would make the effort to help each other more and not feed or fuel the scalpers as PJ said, we could all make the hobby more fun for ourselves an others.
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Post by PJ on Jul 11, 2013 10:16:08 GMT -5
There is no right or wrong answer on Scalping as it is more of a moral issue when it comes to toys. Personally, I dislike it and ran a website for years dedicated to helping Collectors network with each other. If I had the time, I would still be doing it today. There are many collectors that maintain tight schedules between family, work or other factors. Scalping limits their ability to enjoy the hobby. Some are in a demographic that does not afford the luxury of multiple stores to hit on top of this....they also lose out through no fault of their own. Couple this with the fact that most retailers now carry a fraction of the stock they did 10 years ago and you see how hard it is to be a collector today. There is a negative stereotype to scalpers..and 99% of the time it holds true. If Collectors would make the effort to help each other more and not feed or fuel the scalpers as PJ said, we could all make the hobby more fun for ourselves an others. And it was a great site. What's up? How's the family?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 11, 2013 10:26:07 GMT -5
But, you realize scalper are the majority here?!?!? False.
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Post by East Coast on Jul 11, 2013 10:34:03 GMT -5
u know, there's something way worse then being a scalper
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Post by PJ on Jul 11, 2013 10:46:39 GMT -5
u know, there's something way worse then being a scalper As far as the hobby goes the only thing worse than a scalper is a switcher.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 10:51:04 GMT -5
But, you realize scalper are the majority here?!?!? False. Naive.
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Post by hitman1072 on Jul 11, 2013 10:51:06 GMT -5
Not one anti-scalping post so far has been in any way logical, or even a good argument against it. Every one has been based on emotion. I still don't even get how this relates to Mattel figures. How are people not finding this stuff at retail? I don't even do much hunting, and I've found everything but Kevin Nash. That I bout on Ebay for under $25 shipped.
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Post by WalterF on Jul 11, 2013 10:54:51 GMT -5
Scalping just isn't cool. Is it the worst thing the world? Of course not, but it does inconvenience and rip off honest people who just want the product to enjoy.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 11, 2013 10:59:02 GMT -5
Not one pro-scalping post so far has been in any way logical, or even a good argument for it. Every one has been based on greedmotion. Again, false. The majority of members here are not scalpers, they are genuine collectors. Pretending that the majority of members are scalpers is just something that scalpers try to convince themselves so they feel better about ripping people off. If the majority of members weren't genuine collectors and were just scalpers looking to flip the toys for profit, there'd be nobody to buy the toys from scalpers.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 11, 2013 11:10:20 GMT -5
Scalpers are the reason why internetshopping has become my source for collecting. Which I absolutly hate. There was a kid here not too long ago that bought out his entire TRU stock of Teddy Long BAFs , which was like almost 4 full sets, then someone posted on his pics that was from the same area that hit the same TRU and was sad he couldn't find Teddy!!! all scalpers. all customisers. If your buying out figures for sales or destruction you can kiss my ass.... If its RSC or online shopping, I could care less. But if your trolling every store in your citu grabbing everything in site to put on ebay or here for profit an not assistance ( a few dollars above retail) then you!!! Like already stated, you need money? Go get a job, get 2 jobs. Unless you're buying 10 cases a week, there is no turn around profit from these figures... Scalping is my 2nd job. What's more important to me??? You or my children?!?!? While your argument is a bit 1 sided, we all do what we can to live and let live. I provide a service to people. Wether the items come from retail, garage sales, storage auctions, or out of my personal collection.... People have wants, I'll never agree with small minded thinking. If it wasn't for guys like me or you, there would be a second market. Does everyone hate Edge?? If you have the opportunity and the smarts, you would be on this side of the argument. Personally, most of my stock come from collectors that don't have an reasonable outlet to rid themselves of there collections, items with BIN prices that are naive, clearance bins, and extras from case orders on RSC. I don't mess with flipping basics or the rest of the crap.... Just elites.... That being said. I order 1 case off RSC for each set. By definition, I might be bundled into the scalper list. But, you realize scalper are the majority here?!?!? Buying a case isn't the problem, it's the people who wipe out the good figures from local stores. You're all good!
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 11, 2013 11:11:59 GMT -5
Disagree with you on this, scalpers are not the majority. It's nowhere close.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 11, 2013 11:14:18 GMT -5
Not one pro-scalping post so far has been in any way logical, or even a good argument for it. Every one has been based on greedmotion. Again, false. The majority of members here are not scalpers, they are genuine collectors. Pretending that the majority of members are scalpers is just something that scalpers try to convince themselves so they feel better about ripping people off. It's a flawed argument, they're not the majority. Simple economics dictate that there'd be no market whatsoever if this was the case.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 11, 2013 11:16:13 GMT -5
It's a flawed argument, they're not the majority. Simple economics dictate that there'd be no market whatsoever if this was the case. Haha! I actually just edited my post to add that and then it refreshed and you've said it too. I wonder who he thinks is buying the figures from scalpers if everyone is a scalper.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 11:18:20 GMT -5
Again, false. The majority of members here are not scalpers, they are genuine collectors. Pretending that the majority of members are scalpers is just something that scumbag scalpers try to convince themselves so they feel better about ripping people off. Again, naive. While most aren't open about it. Many people in fact buy most than they need. For trades or re-sell. Nothing against "pure" collectors, but most buy extras to help off set there spending on their personal collections. So many times we get threads about most valued figures, how to sell figures, advertising out figure sales, opinions about this or that. It's naive to believe that these people don't troll here or the figure finds. Heck, Nike from 5KS, asked about the market for foddles. So we do what we do and pretend we are above "scalping" only because it's not openly accepted here. Oh, and if anyone has any helpful opinions about the above mentions, they've scalped. Now, I'd understand if you meant that people who doesn't collect and purely scalps is not the majority that comes here, I'll agree with you. But if you are talking above anyone who collects and flips figures at time, you sir are naive.
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