WFWF Andrew Carter
Mid-Carder
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Joined on: May 8, 2012 18:40:00 GMT -5
Posts: 358
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Post by WFWF Andrew Carter on Aug 9, 2013 22:38:11 GMT -5
Um, if I remember right, I offered to right my part of the promo for you, but you wouldnt let me. But, about being done, the feelings mutual.
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Thunder
Main Eventer
WF 10 Year Member
WFWF Record: 59-60-1
Joined on: Aug 6, 2003 9:44:07 GMT -5
Posts: 2,941
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Post by Thunder on Aug 9, 2013 22:39:35 GMT -5
I think it is safe to say that everyone would be best served letting this go. Nothing is going to get resolved at this point and its all going around in circles.
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Post by CM Poor on Aug 9, 2013 22:41:25 GMT -5
Let's take a moment to give a rook his dues - if you asked me when he debuted if Proggy would make so much as a ripple here, I'd have given a real hearty laugh. And I'd have been dead wrong. Guy struggled along, and was real flakey in the early goings, but he has stepped up as brought his 'A' game, if not to his writing, then certainly to making this place better for all involved.
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Post by Ace Bennett on Aug 9, 2013 22:42:49 GMT -5
I still want to hear about all of these people I forced out of the WFWF and all of these matches that have been lost because of one or two mistakes. But I digress....
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Revvie®
Main Eventer
Somewhere between Reality, and the Absurd
Joined on: Jun 29, 2005 1:04:26 GMT -5
Posts: 4,327
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Post by Revvie® on Aug 9, 2013 23:00:13 GMT -5
Proggy, I am open for a feud. I put out some feelers, but nothing back yet. First come first serve. I am just looking for some underwiring to the feud I have with Mike that will be a slow grow into Super Brawl, so I am open for current and S&S as of now.
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 9, 2013 23:44:23 GMT -5
This thread alone brings back so many memories. It's like déjà vu up in here.
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Post by Markw on Aug 10, 2013 1:03:13 GMT -5
@progwd
It's looking like Devilkiller isn't sticking around so I might well be looking for a feud as well. I'm assuming you're going to be feuding with Revvie up to S&S, but if you want to set something up for SuperBrawl PM me.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Aug 10, 2013 7:25:08 GMT -5
I realize most of these issues are now dead because several people apparently do not sleep around here. I'm old. I've adjusted to waking up early for work, and thus I go to sleep fairly early. I'm going to try to be brief and only address specific points and try not to harp on things that have already been driven into the ground. We would love so see our match. Looking at other peoples crap is boaring, we want to see our damn matches. I would like to ask you genuinely, what inspires you to write here? The WFWF and roleplaying as a whole is kind of a unique form. You have to tell a coheriant story while only telling pieces of the story at a time. My main inspiration when I returned and source of story telling, in plain honesty, was Entourage. How multiple stories can be going on at the same time and the multiple characters all learn different parts of the stories at different times. But to learn to adapt that style, I studied, disected, and memorized EBR's style. And then I adapted it. I read, enjoyed, and purposely attempted to mimic the positive traits of Kyzer's style and adapted those to my own writing. And in fact, I read several people's works that are historically irrelevant now and seen the mistakes they were making, which mirrored some flaws in my own work albeit amplified significantly, and knew I needed to stop doing that. Without reading other people's match writing, how are you going to learn to put together a match here? To write a match from bell to bell? It's not something you can just do. I consider Double Jeopardy one of the best bell to bell matches in WFWF history for the match psycology and think anyone who enjoys match writing should read that one to learn how they need to put together a match for a "big fight feel". But more important than the matches, reading other roleplays can develop your character because you can gain new aspects and stylings. Like rko123 said, Im not looking at other peoples RP to see what I can do better. Thats basically me saying, "Oh let me look at Schneiders RP to get ideas and copy them into mine." No, that's plagerism. Plagerism and inspiration are very different things (sup Horror?). I'm not sure what to say if you don't know what the difference between being inspired by something and adapting it to your own unique works and plagerism is. A few years ago, you no showed zero time. Congrats. I do this as a hobby. This isnt my ENTIRE life. I no showed a few times. Whoopedy ing do. I have a ing life. I go out and do things with my friends and family. I dont sit behind a computer all damn day writing matches and RPs. You saying I no showed an event means nothing to me. In the time I've been here, my grandmother had three brain surgeries, my mother had a triple bypass heart surgery, and my father had a pretty severe operation on his colon. I also moved everything I owned in the span of 3 days and bought a house. Oh, and I graduated high school and ran my own business to support myself for five years.. And for the year of 2007, where I was the World Champion for I believe seven months, I was working a grueling 50+ hour a week shift on unusual hours. Through those, I managed to get not just participation pieces up, but quality works up on a week to week basis. Because I understand time management. I understand that I'm going to need to make ____ amount of hours to get this roleplay done and I need to make the time. Instead of sitting and scrolling Twitter or laughing at things on imgur, I needed to write on MS Word and finish this roleplay. Also, I was almost always "ahead", because in times like this where results or even new cards were delayed for an extended amount of time, I'd begin writing either my next roleplay or general ideas for future roleplays. My recent "The final works of Phillip Schneider" post were two 50-70% complete roleplays that I finished while waiting for the results of Psycho Circus to be posted. I was in the Heavyweight title match, main event for that show and wrote I believe a fifteen page match for that match. But results were still really delayed. I didn't throw a big temper tantrum and make everyone hate me. I simply continued to write and continued to extend my angles that I was already working on. What do you care about my ing spelling. Some ing words I dont have to spell alot, so I really dont care how I spell it. But you know what the ing word is right? So sont get all pissy cause I dont make it perfect, nobodys ing perfect. Now please just post the ing results and shut the hell up... Now are we done? are do you want to kepp going the hell on?? This isn't the post I wanted to quote but I can't seem to find the one I actually wanted. I had to switch over accounts after my initial read through and am going back to actually quote people. The one I wanted was this general idea but referred to a "real world" concept. What is the "real world"? The real world is finding a source of employment and making a living, correct? For several years, I wrote online as a means of employment. Articles, technical support, etc. Just various things that paid.. Percy, my former tag team partner, is now a wrestling journalist and a color commentator for a small indy federation. Futhermore, I attempted to monetize my WFWF writings towards the end of 2012. I was told the story of how some trashy romance novel writer who never graduated high school was making grips of cash selling e-books, so I started the process to get an e-book license to sell on Amazon. Unfortunately it's a very complicated process, especially the financial aspect, so I ultimately didn't succeed. But my plan was to release my roleplays in digest form, to tell the coheriant story of Phillip Schneider over several $1.99 eBooks. If selling Phillip Schneider stories would've started paying, say, my phone bill.. Does that make roleplaying become "real life"? Well, at this very moment, I am doing nothing. Any other time, I am doing something. And yes Ace, you were bad mouthing us. Take a look at Schneiders post. Take a look at Schneider's original post. If you don't have the time to show up consistantly and participate in other aspects of the federation, then why are you here? Well when I need all that stuff for real then I will have all the grammer I need. Now I dont really need it. If yall are going to bad mounth people about grammer and spelling mistakes then yall need to look back at some of yalls crap from past. Yall make people lose matches cause 1 or 2 mistakes even if they have good RP. NOBODYS PERFECT WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES EVEN YOU. So dont talk bad a bout people cause they dont have propper grammer. At least they try there best. Yall make some people feel like nothin. Yall need to check and see if yalls comments are ofensve. At least yall can understand it. Cant yall? ? So if yall can under stand it dint make them feel like crap cause they cant win the in match over 1 or 2 mistakes. So think about it.. This is the post I was actually wanting to quote originally. I'm pointing the finger of blame at King Kraig on this one even though I assume this is a legitimate post. This is competitive writing. If you are making mistakes in spelling, writing, and story structure, you are going to lose. If you are facing someone who is just a better writer than you, you are going to lose. If you and I had a match, there's about a 95% chance you would lose, not because people dislike you, they like me (because I'm life's heel. If I was still around, I'd use that as a new nickname). You would lose because my roleplay was better. There's no favoritism. There's a judging system in place to specifically avoid favoritism. But writing and rambling incoheriantly will lead to losses. Using words like "yall" specifically makes you look uneducated. I'm going to burst a bubble here. I'm going to ruin something teachers have told you through school. Trying your best doesn't always work. Your best isn't good enough sometimes. "Sounding it out" doesn't work. It still makes you look like an idiot. There have been times when I knew the word I wanted because I have a deep vocabulary. Deeper than the words I can actually spell in some cases. And what I've done in those cases is try to get it as close as I can and then run a spell check when it still gets underlined as wrong. And more often than not, spell check said "man, what the hell are you trying to do here??" So rather than using a word that was spelled incorrectly and looking like a fool, I would replace the word with a word or words that meant the same thing, even if it meant restructuring sentences around the word. That's what a good writer does. Who'd want to work an angle with someone with your attitude? Know why Trace Demon is the International champion right now and not the World champion? Because he used to be a real miserable prick and I absolutely refused to work with him. That's in the past now and we had an idea possibly in place that simply didn't work out.. But yeah. Don't be a prick. No one will want to work with you if you're a prick. Schneider is one of the best we've had, and he is never one to hide what he wants to say. He's going to say what he thinks and a great majority of the time, he's right whether you like it or not I'm hoping this isn't too many characters. I'd like to put it in my signature here. I read a post from Ace and I can't find it to quote it. He essentially said "it is what it is, there's nothing you can do about it". I wanted to contribute a bit of culture to the fecal throwing contest. I'm currently learning conversational Japanese because I would love to go to Japan. The Japanese are a very complancement people and a VERY common phrase in Japanese is "shikata ga nai". It can't be helped, it is what it is, there's nothing you can really do about it. There's long lines? shikata ga nai. The tickets are all sold out. shikata ga nai. Your elderly grandmother passed away? shikata ga nai. WFWF results are late? shikata ga nai. If we were still doing the "WE'RE CHANGING THE DISCUSSION POST TITLE EVERY 2 WEEKS" and it was my week, I'd change it to shikata ga nai. I've incorperated the phrase into my every day English dialog because I enjoy it a lot. This thread alone brings back so many memories. It's like déjà vu up in here. faces change, things stay the same.
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