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Post by King Silva on Sept 30, 2013 1:48:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 2:59:56 GMT -5
I think this final episode, Walt finally managed to control Heisenberg. I think it was mostly Walt but managed to take control of Heisenberg's master mind plans.
I mean, Gretchen and Elliot. That was Heisenberg threatening them with Walt's motive and brilliant thinking hiring Skinny Pete and Badger.
Walt saying goodbye to Skylar was all Walt if you ask me. I loved the little flashback of the first episode, where Hank tells him to get some excitement into his life. But yeah that was all Walt.
Then with Walt facing off against the nazis, that was Walt with Heisenberg's mastermind. He was ready to murder them all, that just says Heisenberg. But the fact that he saves Jessie says Walt.
If you ask me, I think Jessie kind of forgave Walt and kind of didn't. Jessie had realized it was the end for him either way, and got emotional because he couldn't do it, not after everything they had done for each other. They were like brothers. However the way Jessie left him to die, that was revenge for watching Jane die if you ask me. Jessie wasn't going to give him the satisfaction of a bullet to the head, Jessie made sure he got his comeuppance after all he had done. And left him to bleed out.
So all in all, Jessie kind of gave Walt mercy I guess, but also made him pay for what he had done.
To me, with their new looks and the few words to each other, it seemed as though Jessie and Walt were strangers to each other. And that was good writing because in my opinion, when Jessie drove away, he drove away as a stranger to Walt. To be honest I was half expecting Jessie to shoot himself instead of Walt, or to crash the car speeding out of there. But i'm happy he didn't.
Simply great writing for all 5 seasons. I feel like I put down one of my own family members today. Going to be so odd re-watching knowing that ending is coming.
Simply phenomenal
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Post by slappy on Sept 30, 2013 4:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by Jason Bourne on Sept 30, 2013 8:09:36 GMT -5
If you ask me, I think Jessie kind of forgave Walt and kind of didn't. Jessie had realized it was the end for him either way, and got emotional because he couldn't do it, not after everything they had done for each other. They were like brothers. However the way Jessie left him to die, that was revenge for watching Jane die if you ask me. Jessie wasn't going to give him the satisfaction of a bullet to the head, Jessie made sure he got his comeuppance after all he had done. And left him to bleed out. So all in all, Jessie kind of gave Walt mercy I guess, but also made him pay for what he had done. IMO I think Jesse wasn't going to do what Walt wanted him to do anymore, he was tired of being controlled by Walt... "Do it yourself". Personally I don't think he would forgive Walt because he let Jane die and basically was the reason Andrea was killed too. Of course it's all a matter of opinion but what an amazing show and phenomenal ending, it's what I needed after that awful Dexter ending. |
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Post by J12 on Sept 30, 2013 10:15:11 GMT -5
Incredible episode, fantastic ending. Nearly flawless storytelling for five (errr, 6) seasons.
I hate throwing around the "greatest of all time" tag at things, because it seems so overblown, but I'm hard pressed to find a better example of brilliant television. I'm comfortable calling Breaking Bad the greatest television series of all time from my perspective.
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Post by Doctor Worm on Sept 30, 2013 13:22:28 GMT -5
Absolutely. There was never a bad episode IMO. I think there was only one bad episode; the fly episode. I liked it,personally. 1)It reminded me of "Malcolm In The Middle", the episode where Hal goes to odds with a bee. 2)It shows the breakdown of Walt's mental stability, and his preference of controlling everything in his life down to the single smallest detail. But, I can totally see why people wouldn't like that episode. I'll say this, one thing I didn't like about the show was that whole deal with the twins. I thought they were a little too outlandish. Never said a word, and they were practically two T-1000's programmed to kill Walt and whoever else did Tuco in. In the context of everything else that happened/was going to happen, they seemed too out of place, which is why I kind of rolled my eyes with any mention/feature of them. I mean, still enjoyed to some degree, but it was "eh" to me. I can agree to the sentiment of Breaking Bad being one of the greatest shows of all time. |
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Post by noir on Sept 30, 2013 13:46:11 GMT -5
Just saw it. Fantastic ending.
As I said in an earlier post, one thing that REALLY bugged me was the Walt ordering Jesse's death scene in 'Ozymandias'. Given the events of the finale, I think a better route to take was have the Nazis find Jesse and kidnap him as a bargaining chip/ cook AGAINST Walt's will. It seems that strand of the story was simply a device to reveal Jane's death which I think would have fit much better in the finale during the scene when Walt asks Jesse to kill him. Sort of a way to spur him on. The way it played out, I found walt TOTALLY irredeemable for the final 3 episodes knowing in the back of my mind he wanted to kill Jesse.
I also felt the last episode could have ran a while longer. Walt didn't really get a 'death scene' and as cliche as it may have been, I'd have really enjoyed some scenes to play in the final song depicting Jesse, Flynn and Syklar.
Otherwise, amazing. Ozymandias irked me for a few reasons and the episode after that was good but didn't feel very 'Breaking Bad' to me. The finale really played out incredibly well however. Tied up every loose end whilst giving decent closure to all the characters.
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Post by btha on Sept 30, 2013 15:39:12 GMT -5
Absolutely. There was never a bad episode IMO. I think there was only one bad episode; the fly episode. that is one of my favorite episodes. |
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Post by Jamal on Sept 30, 2013 16:31:40 GMT -5
I thought Fly was extremely boring my first watch, but after repeated viewings I've really come to appreciate it.
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 30, 2013 16:42:13 GMT -5
I do include fly when I say there's never been a bad episode. That episode though it was a filler, obviously ,it was still a great episode.
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 30, 2013 16:45:01 GMT -5
Oh my lord is she serious?!?!!!?'bbn "Like we get it, you're dying you don't need to cough every 5 minutes" - Miley after watching a couple episodes of season 1. If there were any respect left that I had for that freak. It's all gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 18:00:40 GMT -5
I'm glad she doesn't like the show, it would mean I have something in common with her dumbass.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Sept 30, 2013 20:01:34 GMT -5
I would have loved to have seen an epilogue.
I'm still pissed Marie didn't end up getting killed.
But it was cool to see Badger & Skinny Pete again!
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Post by Manson's inverted cross on Sept 30, 2013 22:17:05 GMT -5
Great Ending, I think.
As usual, I'm sucker for finales in many cases. Sometimes they disturb me very badly.
Is anyone else bothered by the way Walt's relationship with his son ended? I had trouble sleeping thinking about it.
That's what disturbs me most about this finale. I'm not saying it was a bad ending, it was just sad, as most finales are.
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Post by Wicked on Sept 30, 2013 22:21:55 GMT -5
This was IMO THE GREATEST TV SHOW EVER MADE! I love the way it ended. I will miss it. R.I.P BReaking Bad. I was thinking it kind of insinuated that Walt died. His eyes were still open when he feel over. He could've went to jail or died in the hospital. But I'd like to think he died right there in that last scene.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 30, 2013 23:29:32 GMT -5
I have to agree with the people who were not big fans of 'Fly'.
EW.com listed ALL the episodes of Breaking Bad (maybe not including the finale since I think it was before that *they probably edited it though*) and 'Fly' was in the top 10 if not top 5...
How about NO?!
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Post by K5 on Oct 1, 2013 0:17:20 GMT -5
badger and skinny pete felt really thrown in, like why would walt entrust them with anything whatsoever, even such a basic task as that? they're junkies, and incapable of anything.
overall was a great ending...going to really miss it. hell of a show.
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Post by Doctor Worm on Oct 1, 2013 0:51:22 GMT -5
I have this sneaking feeling that we forgot something. Oh,  . |
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Post by SodaGuy on Oct 1, 2013 1:02:43 GMT -5
I have this sneaking feeling that we forgot something. Oh, . I found him.. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 1, 2013 14:29:16 GMT -5
If you ask me, I think Jessie kind of forgave Walt and kind of didn't. Jessie had realized it was the end for him either way, and got emotional because he couldn't do it, not after everything they had done for each other. They were like brothers. However the way Jessie left him to die, that was revenge for watching Jane die if you ask me. Jessie wasn't going to give him the satisfaction of a bullet to the head, Jessie made sure he got his comeuppance after all he had done. And left him to bleed out. So all in all, Jessie kind of gave Walt mercy I guess, but also made him pay for what he had done. I gotta disagree. They were anything but brothers. After all they had been through together and all the backstabbing between the two of them, there was no going back. The two women Jesse cared about both died due to Walt's actions (letting Jane die and later turning Jesse over to the Nazis). Brock, who Jesse also cared about, was poisoned by Walt just to get Jesse on his side against Gus. Some people point out that Walt is a master chemist and that it was a controlled poison but thats BS to me. The Heisenberg character was almost in full effect by that point and Walt was totally fine taking the chance of murdering a little boy just to save his own butt. And Mike, the one guy who was like a father figure to Jesse, was killed by Walt because he wouldn't give his contact list over to him. Again Walt was simply looking out for his own butt and took the chance to ruin another part of Jesse's life. I fully believe that Walt went to the Nazi's camp with the intention of killing them and Jesse before he saw that Jesse was their slave. I think in that moment Walt finally realized how bad he ruined Jesse's life. In season 1 Jesse was already a messed up kid who Walt took advantage of. While Walt may have viewed Jesse as like another son for most of the series, Jesse never saw Walt as a father figure and instead saw him as this evil figure who kept getting worse and worse as time progressed. Jesse not shooting Walt was him finally being done with everything. Walt and Jesse were both at rock bottom by that point and Jesse wasn't going to stoop to Walt's level by shooting him. Walt was already a dead man (mortally shot or not) and Jesse driving away was him finally being free and in control of his life for once. |
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