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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 1, 2013 14:45:04 GMT -5
I think we can all agree on TNA being ULTRA high on Magnus. From everyone I have spoke to concerning this, TNA sees Magnus as their BIG DRAW....their future version of John Cena. They want him to rule the house.
I think they have lost their minds. Magnus to me is nothing but a mid carder at best. There are some guys that have "it" and some guys who work really hard and are a very good hand to have on your roster. I see Magnus as the latter. The most I have ever enjoyed Magnus is when he played second fiddle to Nigel....The Mag Daddy. He is young. He is ok at best in the ring. He has a decent look and adds a nice international flavor to the roster.
But what jumps out at you for Magnus. What attribute stands out and makes you say....that guy's awesome. Is he as innovative as AJ Styles? Is he as intense as Samoa Joe? Is he as charismatic as Jeff Hardy? Is he as entertaining as Christopher Daniels? Is he as polished as Austin Aries? To me the answer is no. In fact.....I find him way down the rung for innovation. The only thing I remotely see that resembles AJ is how Magnus stole AJ's designs for his tights. Intensity? Meh...very little. No where near Joe. Charisma? Sometimes. When paired with Nigel, I thought he showed some. As a member of MEM...not so much. Entertaining? Not on Daniels level. Polished? He has greatly improved. But I dont think he is in the class with AJ, Joe, Daniels, Hardy, Joe. In fact....not sure I see him in the James Storm class. I think Kenny King is more polished.
I 100% agree that Magnus has a nice upside. I think he has room to grow and in fact has grown as a performer since his first days. Then again, I think he is closer to his ceiling than his basement right now. What TNA needs to do is let him grow on his own and not attempt to shove him down our throats. Want him to compete for a title....have him challenge for the TV title. Let him go out there and show what he can do as a worker and an entertainer. Give him a story to work with, but dont let him lead the BFG series. The BFG series has made Magnus look like the BEST in TNA and yet no one is actually buying it that is watching the shows. Why dont you get this guy some merchandise and really put the test to it and see how well a shirt, hat or whatever is gonna sell for him?
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Post by Edge618 on Sept 1, 2013 15:00:57 GMT -5
I agree, nothing about him says "top star to me" I've seen him have great matches but that's doesnt make a full package. He's cheesy face 101 right now and for some reason TNA thinks having a guy lead the BFG series gets him over. The only way that will ever work is if the guy wins it, but everyone know he has no chance in hell of winning it so theres no purpose.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Sept 1, 2013 15:28:35 GMT -5
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I get your points made, and you're right, he shouldn't be leading the BFG series like he has been. He's been getting that rub for quite sometime now.
But I do see potential in him, as you put it, for him to grow. He struck a cord, for me anyways, when he cut that promo over in the UK - the reception he got (probably being from the UK obviously), but his poise was so in-tact, the first thought that came to mind: future superstar!
I truely believe he CAN be a top guy, right now? No, because he isn't ready yet. But I predicted in 2002 that John Cena would be the franchise of the WWE within 5yrs of his debut... and now I see Magnus going down that route of becoming TNA's franchise eventually.
At this point, I would rather see him lose out on the BGF series, so he can taste that defeat and thrive for the gold even more - knowing he came sooo close, and this way, it conditions in the fan's minds that Magnus can be a chaser for that world title.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 1, 2013 15:59:37 GMT -5
-- I get your points made, and you're right, he shouldn't be leading the BFG series like he has been. He's been getting that rub for quite sometime now. But I do see potential in him, as you put it, for him to grow. He struck a cord, for me anyways, when he cut that promo over in the UK - the reception he got (probably being from the UK obviously), but his poise was so in-tact, the first thought that came to mind: future superstar! I truely believe he CAN be a top guy, right now? No, because he isn't ready yet. But I predicted in 2002 that John Cena would be the franchise of the WWE within 5yrs of his debut... and now I see Magnus going down that route of becoming TNA's franchise eventually. At this point, I would rather see him lose out on the BGF series, so he can taste that defeat and thrive for the gold even more - knowing he came sooo close, and this way, it conditions in the fan's minds that Magnus can be a chaser for that world title. When I first saw Cena debut, I saw superstar as well. But it wasnt till he got into his rapping gimmick/tweener stage did I see a guy who could be a face for WWE. Cena had a great look and an intensity about him. He had "it". These are things I see Magnus lacking. Will he become a top star for TNA? Probably. Will I buy into him as a top star? Doubtful. Like WWE with Cena now.....just b/c you present it as true, doesnt mean the crowd is gonna buy it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 16:03:59 GMT -5
I can only see Magnus being world champion if TNA had a major storyline getting more focus than the actual title. Or as a transitional champion.
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Post by OYDK? on Sept 1, 2013 16:38:35 GMT -5
I don't think he's ready to be the face of the company and the push seems really random, but I'd rather him get the spot than somebody like Sting. So I'm all for them pushing somebody that they believe in.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 1, 2013 16:42:19 GMT -5
I don't think he's ready to be the face of the company and the push seems really random, but I'd rather him get the spot than somebody like Sting. So I'm all for them pushing somebody that they believe in. But Sting I buy as a World Champion. AJ is someone I buy as World Champion. The way Sabin won it, makes me BUY him as a World Champion. Magnus I dont buy as World Champion. Daniels is World Champion credible. In fact guys who have never been world champ that I see more credible than Magnus are Daniels, Gunner, Hernandez. |
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Post by OYDK? on Sept 1, 2013 16:45:57 GMT -5
I don't think he's ready to be the face of the company and the push seems really random, but I'd rather him get the spot than somebody like Sting. So I'm all for them pushing somebody that they believe in. But Sting I buy as a World Champion. AJ is someone I buy as World Champion. The way Sabin won it, makes me BUY him as a World Champion. Magnus I dont buy as World Champion. Daniels is World Champion credible. In fact guys who have never been world champ that I see more credible than Magnus are Daniels, Gunner, Hernandez. Honestly I'd buy anybody as World Champion in TNA. It's not like there's a pecking order. I'm not sure how you can really see Daniels, Gunner & Hernandez as more credible without being a biased fan. Daniels is a tag team wrestler within in the context of TNA with a comedy gimmick to boot, Gunner was a joke for years and is now one half of tag team champions that are barely featured and Hernandez has good days and bad days. I get that you're not a fan of Magnus and I'm all for you having your opinion, but just because you're not a fan of his doesn't make him any less credible. |
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Post by WMDman on Sept 1, 2013 16:56:42 GMT -5
I see him as a mid carder at best. If he wins a world title before Daniels...it's just horrendous
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Sept 1, 2013 17:20:29 GMT -5
He's got all the tools, but he still has a ways to go in terms of character development. He's just a good-sized, handsome guy from the UK who looks great in a suit, can speak clearly, is decent in the ring and has some babyface fire. Fans are starting to get familiar with him, but there's no emotional attachment yet.
Really though he's about the only homegrown TNA guy who has a superstar/posterboy quality about him.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 1, 2013 19:31:19 GMT -5
The man asked a simple question so personal attacks are not necessarily. I deleted them this time but next time I'll report anyone who is being rude for no reason.
As for Magnus... I want to like him, but he's yet to win me over. He was great when he teamed with Williams & Terry, but since then he's been flat. Hope TNA can find a way to get me to buy into him.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 1, 2013 19:32:38 GMT -5
But Sting I buy as a World Champion. AJ is someone I buy as World Champion. The way Sabin won it, makes me BUY him as a World Champion. Magnus I dont buy as World Champion. Daniels is World Champion credible. In fact guys who have never been world champ that I see more credible than Magnus are Daniels, Gunner, Hernandez. . I'm not sure how you can really see Daniels, Gunner & Hernandez as more credible without being a biased fan. Daniels is a tag team wrestler within in the context of TNA with a comedy gimmick to boot, Gunner was a joke for years and is now one half of tag team champions that are barely featured and Hernandez has good days and bad days. I get that you're not a fan of Magnus and I'm all for you having your opinion, but just because you're not a fan of his doesn't make him any less credible. I'll agree with this as well. Unfortunately. |
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Post by Epic Z on Sept 1, 2013 20:07:13 GMT -5
I personally am not a fan of the guy and agree with everything you said.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 1, 2013 21:31:29 GMT -5
I honestly am a fan of Magnus. I don't know why, but I think he could be a main event guy. Now is not the right time to push him as hard as they have, but he has potential to be good. Him on the mic, he could improve in time.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 1, 2013 22:01:50 GMT -5
The man asked a simple question so personal attacks are not necessarily. I deleted them this time but next time I'll report anyone who is being rude for no reason.
As for Magnus... I want to like him, but he's yet to win me over. He was great when he teamed with Williams & Terry, but since then he's been flat. Hope TNA can find a way to get me to buy into him. Not a fan of his work with Nigel? |
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Post by Epic Z on Sept 1, 2013 22:55:48 GMT -5
The man asked a simple question so personal attacks are not necessarily. I deleted them this time but next time I'll report anyone who is being rude for no reason.
As for Magnus... I want to like him, but he's yet to win me over. He was great when he teamed with Williams & Terry, but since then he's been flat. Hope TNA can find a way to get me to buy into him. Good movie Marino, it gets annoying when every time the guy posts there is always those people attacking him for no reason what so ever. Also I agree I liked his work with the british invasion, but since then he has done anything to make me a fan. |
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Post by eddie eddie on Sept 2, 2013 1:25:32 GMT -5
the dude  ing rules. he's got great timing. he's charming, he's cool as heck, works a unique moveset and is GQ quality hip. he's got his finger on the pulse for sure. in fact, he is one of the very rare culturally in touch parts of TNA. |
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Post by marino13 on Sept 2, 2013 8:18:17 GMT -5
Couple years ago I was convinced he would be a breakout star. Cause no denying Magnus has the skills and the look. But I think TNA is to blame for not giving him much to work with. He needs something to make him stand out from the pack. I'm not a fan of MEM so that isn't doing it for me. I think he needs a good feud. Something personal that will bring out the emotion. A good/long feud with Bobby Roode could do both men favors. The man asked a simple question so personal attacks are not necessarily. I deleted them this time but next time I'll report anyone who is being rude for no reason.
As for Magnus... I want to like him, but he's yet to win me over. He was great when he teamed with Williams & Terry, but since then he's been flat. Hope TNA can find a way to get me to buy into him. Not a fan of his work with Nigel? Yeah I forgot about all that. They weren't too bad either. |
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Post by Thick Justice on Sept 2, 2013 16:01:00 GMT -5
He's average in the ring, average on the mic, average size, average looks. He is not a star.
Also I agree Hernandez has more star power then him. Gunner has a better look, and Daniels is far more charismatic and better in the ring.
I'd like to add in Kenny King and Kazarian as future stars. Kazarian can cut a promo, has the looks, and can perform. I wish they'd never put him in the Suicide suit. Kenny King if featured more could be a real star also. They are both the total package besides size.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 20:44:13 GMT -5
I don't mind Magnus, but overall to me he's average. I hope this changes soon because he has the potential to be bigger than he is right now.
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