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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 20:03:07 GMT -5
Hello all. I'm a 34 year old manchild who has had a recurring itch lately to PLAY with wrestling figures. That's right, I said PLAY. As a kid I had a huge action figure fed that endured for years before it finally got retired in favor of video games. Now wrestling video games are no longer satisfying to me, and so I've been reminiscing about how much fun it was to let my imagination run wild with my wrestling figures. I started with the WWF LJN figures, then moved up to WWF Hasbro and WCW Galoob (with a smattering of He-Man, Ninja Turtles, Superheroes, etc) and then eventually transitioned those out for the Jakks Pacific line from the late 90's before quitting all together. That was 15 years ago, and now here I am wondering if that old magic can be recaptured or if I will end up sitting down in front of my toy ring with all my wrestling figs and laughing at myself. A while back I bought these loose Demolition figures and was stunned by all the points of articulation. Obviously, these are nothing like the figures I played with as a kid, which were typically solid blocks of rubber or plastic designed to survive nuclear holocaust. My fear is that Ax and Smash will break or else be prone to the kind of joint damage that will result in dangling limbs, making them completely useless to play with or to pose.
So I guess my question is... if one were to actually want to play with his toys, what is the best and most durable line? Your feedback on this would be much appreciated. Also, if this is not the best place to post this question I do apologize. After spending several hours googling this question, then searching for words like "durable" on this forum, I finally gave up and posted my question in the section that seemed most applicable. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Sept 17, 2013 20:12:10 GMT -5
With Elite Collection/Legends figures the areas most susceptible to damage are the hip joints. Mattel has started to make the bar connecting the legs much, much stronger but older figures can still break on you. I have about 100 or so Elites; only one has had a leg snap off at the hip. 2 are getting there, though.
The basic figures are great for display but are HORRIBLE for moves involving leg movement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 20:19:00 GMT -5
Ok, I should have also clarified that the majority of my moves will probably be slams, piledrivers, suplexes, clotheslines, punches, that kinda stuff. I doubt I will actually try to get my figures to put an Indian deathlock on one another, so the amount of movement possible with the legs is not a huge deal to me so long as the legs and the joints are sturdy. I just don't want them to get get loose so that the knees or ankles buckle, so my top concern is they are able to withstand a moderate amount of punishment.
So it sounds like you are definitely recommending the elite line over the basic line.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 20:45:08 GMT -5
No way at all should you be going for Elites then. The basics are more sturdy, more solid, have the same arm articulation as elites, more steady for just standing up, and have a deeper roster than the elite line.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 20:47:15 GMT -5
No way at all should you be going for Elites then. The basics are more sturdy, more solid, have the same arm articulation as elites, more steady for just standing up, and have a deeper roster than the elite line. Ok. Thank you. That helps a lot.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Sept 17, 2013 21:13:32 GMT -5
Mattel WWE Elite figures LOOK the best, but as far as the most durable and best for play, Jakks Deluxe Aggression, in MY OPINION, were the most fun wrestling figures to PLAY WITH.
The parts sucked, the heights were unrealistic, and the heads were bigger than any human should have....but the articulation just allowed you to pull off pretty much any move you could think of.
The one thing about Mattel's WWE Elite figures that really chaps my ass is that because of the way they built the ass on the crotch piece, the legs have NO BACKWARD MOBILITY. The legs can only move forward and to the side. The ass prevents the leg from moving backwards, and that hurts the playability of the figures tremendously, in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 21:23:28 GMT -5
Basic legs can go back though. It can also be seriously argued that Elites don't even look the best, since the extra articulation breaks up the sculpt so much. Mark Henry figures suffer from it since they have to have the legs go into the crotch piece/bar to allow for the articulation in a way that looks really unnatural, as opposed to the basic. An Elite Khali would look terrible because of this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 21:28:16 GMT -5
Excellent. Sounds like the basic Mattel line is a good place to start, since it is current and probably easiest to find. I just wished I had picked up one of those realistic scale rings back when they came out. Now they look almost impossible to find. The regular rings look way too tiny.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 21:36:48 GMT -5
They're pretty small, but I have three and have a lot of fun with them. I pack a lot into each ring usually, but I have a good time regardless.
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Post by JC Motors on Sept 17, 2013 22:08:50 GMT -5
FlexForce is good for playing with.
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Post by poindizzle on Sept 17, 2013 22:14:41 GMT -5
Basics all the way for play. If you're wanting to pose wrestlers performing various maneuvers then Elites are a great choice, but I only pose my figures and display, and I get nervous enough doing that. I could easily see play as putting too much stress on what are in my opinion very weak hip posts.
Elites have 3 major differences from basics: Double Jointed Knees, Ab Crunch, and ball jointed hips. The ankles don't particularly make much of a difference. Neck, arms and waist are the same. Also, I would imagine for play that the deeper the roster, the merrier.
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Post by ARUN on Sept 17, 2013 22:27:07 GMT -5
Interesting thread. I'm surprised nobody has ever asked this before.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 22:44:07 GMT -5
I appreciate all of your help guys. I think I'll go out to Wal-Mart tomorrow and see what they've got.
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Post by poindizzle on Sept 17, 2013 22:59:04 GMT -5
I've bought complete sets from Basic 27 all the way through 31. Basics were on a nice little tear for a minute. Lots of new scans and great attires equaled me getting everything. Basic 32 killed it with all the repaints and the straight re-issue of Orton for the third time. Check out WFigs archive for suggestions. If you're a Daniel Bryan fan, the best figure they've ever done of him is in Basic 30, and it's one of the best of the year. Oddly enough, Jinder Mahal in the battle pack with Ryback is also one of the year's best and still available at most Wal-Marts.
The best thing about basics is the price-point and the frequency/variety of releases. There is fresh product every month and at a price that doesn't beat my wallet up.
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Post by Richikane on Sept 18, 2013 2:05:48 GMT -5
WWE Mattel elites are great for that, just don't go too hard on them. My biggest advice would be before you were to ever play with them, boil a big pot of water and put each figure in for about 15 seconds, then take them out and move all the joints around so that they are a little looser and don't have a chance of snapping. Also keep your figures out of places where they will have big temperature changes because that will make joints stiff and snap easy.
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Post by James on Sept 18, 2013 2:58:03 GMT -5
I don't play with them but I would guess basics?
Due to the fact they're cheap to buy and in my opinion seem more durable than elites due to the pegs in elites snapping from my experience when I've moved them about on my shelf/falling off etc.
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Post by n2jib on Sept 18, 2013 3:28:55 GMT -5
I collect elites and i play with them. I don't think u can do piledriver, hurracanrana, tombstone, ect using basics.
Elites can do more moves than basics. And its not that fragile. I've never broken one playing.
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Post by Mr. Show on Sept 18, 2013 10:13:58 GMT -5
I would say Flexforce are the most durable, as they were designed for kids and they can take a healthy beating, however they arent very poseable, or detailed.
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Post by SuperJimmy12345 on Sept 18, 2013 10:50:07 GMT -5
I play with my figures nearly everyday;which are both Elites & Basics,and they're really durable, I've never even had one break on me.Sometimes I wonder how you people can snap a figure as soon as it's out the box when I do figure fours and they don't break. lol
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 18, 2013 19:12:33 GMT -5
You'll get loose little pieces that cause rattling noises with extended play.
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