Cameron Stone
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Joined on: Jan 16, 2013 18:16:15 GMT -5
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Post by Cameron Stone on Nov 5, 2013 22:43:04 GMT -5
I'm not a huge Hogan fan, but if he made an appearance as a Rumble entrant, i would mark a little
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Post by K5 on Nov 5, 2013 23:54:20 GMT -5
was hogan big in the awa? yes. did him being featured in rocky very much help that? yes. was verne going to put hogan over nick bockwinkel overall? no. would awa have moved away from their traditional wrestling style to meet the new age of wrestling? absolutely not, verne was a traditionalist to death. hell, i learnt most of that crap from HOGAN's book...right from the horses' mouth. it is an utter and absolute joke to suggest that the awa could have surpassed the wwf had they kept hogan. vince was the vision, the force, and he had new york. check yourr facts, the wwf was already emerging as a serious force buying up national airtimes and pushing the territories out. The facts are that when Hogan left AWA, half the talent pool went with him or either left for WWF or elsewhere shortly thereafter. Yes Vince's plan was to obviously take pro wrestling to the next level, and as I stated verbatim, Verne Gagne was greedy. Not only with money, but the belt, and the AWA itself. I was just hypothetically pondering AWA's success had Hogan never left, nothing more. And really, my post was just indicating, while Vince did have the vision as you said, he really just took mostly what was already becoming huge with Hogan, and put the machine behind it, which Verne Gagne obviously didn't want/know how to do. And yes, in the territorial days, AWA was a pretty thriving company, as was the WWWF. And yes, Hogan's departure was a huge nail in their coffin. your original post was written as if hogan was bound to be a mega star despite the wwf's involvement or not. the gears were already turning, even with the hogan the awa never stood the slightest chance to vince's vision of empire. in the original new york days when vince jr took control he was eating up and spitting out talent, trying to find his main man, the serious draw. he found it in hogan. hogan deserves no more and no less credit than being the man to fill vince's vision. no one can know how else it could've been played out, anything stated is mere assumptions. |
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Post by ICW on Nov 5, 2013 23:59:15 GMT -5
I absolutely appreciate everything that Hulk Hogan has done for the wrestling industry but I'm also very tired of seeing him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 0:02:32 GMT -5
Brooke's coming too brother.
Brooke's legs brother.
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Post by Word™ on Nov 6, 2013 0:53:24 GMT -5
FALSE! Well, somewhat. Hogan had left for the AWA where he first started hearing the cheers and where Hulkamania was born. Verne was greedy, so a now mega-popular Hogan that was hot off an AWA (which was a viable competitor with, and possibly bigger than Vince Jr. at the time) stint, rode that initial wave of AWA success into the WWF where Vince capitalized on it. Hogan will tell you, if anyone, Verne Gagne helped bring the real Hulk Hogan out. Hell, Gagne can be accredited for a great deal of stars from throughout wrestling history. If anything, Vince Jr. was a smart business man that only lent a hand in the grand scheme of things. Vince did nationalise wrestling, but it's hard to say the AWA wouldn't have been in WWE's shoes today had Hogan never left. After all, where Hogan went, many would follow at that time. At this point, I could care less what Hogan does, I just want his Mattel figure! was hogan big in the awa? yes. did him being featured in rocky very much help that? yes. was verne going to put hogan over nick bockwinkel overall? no. would awa have moved away from their traditional wrestling style to meet the new age of wrestling? absolutely not, verne was a traditionalist to death. hell, i learnt most of that crap from HOGAN's book...right from the horses' mouth. it is an utter and absolute joke to suggest that the awa could have surpassed the wwf had they kept hogan. vince was the vision, the force, and he had new york. check your facts, the wwf was already emerging as a serious force buying up national airtimes and pushing the territories out. He also said "I have never taken steroids" in his book.. So. Something to think about. |
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