That 80s Guy
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Post by That 80s Guy on Nov 29, 2013 12:55:51 GMT -5
-- The angle lacked heel / face turns. It was great seeing Wes & Garrett turn, but that was just 1 occasion. Bully's turn was good as well. When Anderson joined, it wasn't a quick turn, as it was played out a few weeks. Devon's revealing was nice, but wasn't a quick turn. So you really only had 2 heel turns. And nobody from the faction, defected to TNA. Had DOC still been around, it would've been nice to see him turn face. The only time an A&8's member turned face, was after the fact Anderson was booted from the group. Plus, where's Wes been?! You would think by now, he would've extracted some sort of revenge on the group, and the fact that TNA hasn't used him for that purpose - knowing how talented the guy is, is just poor writing & booking. Another thing that killed the gimmick (for me), was when they stopped entering/exiting through the crowd. Using the same entrance as the rest of the TNA roster, it highly watered down the gimmick. In closing, the Aces & Eights had a TON of potential, but lack of creativity, that potential went frail to the wasteside. And now thanks to that, the group will forever be known as a 3rd rate nWo knockoff. I can't see how that's only '2 real heel turns' if you have Bully, Devon, Garrett and Wes turning. Plus I'd never go as far as saying Wes is as talented as you're saying. He botched so often, was awful on camera and couldn't speak/act convincingly for the stories that he was involved in. He was more like a wet blanket. I'd take Bischoff over Brisco for those reasons. -- Had you comprehended what I said in my post, Wes/Garrett was 1 occasion (technically 2 individuals, but 1 heel turn as a duo), and I acknowledged Bully's heel turn as the other. Devon wasn't so much as a heel turn, as it was a revealing when he as unmasked @ BFG'12 (remember, it was thought that Devon was gone completely from the company prior to this, so there was technically no character to turn... just a revealing). And calling Wes Brisco a "wet blanket" - you must've missed his GutCheck match with Garrett... the guy impressed me - I'll take a great in-ring performer over a great segment actor any day, but that's just me. And we didn't even see him at his best, during that match! I hardly recall Wes botching spots, as he always seemed to have good ring timing (in my eyes), but if you noticed something I didn't, I'd chalk it up as to having to work in jeans during matches. When I used to train at Severn's camp, I worked a match with a buddy of mine on a non-training day, wearing jeans... I have a whole nother respect for guys who can work in jeans, because it makes it that much tougher for maneuverability. So before you resort to calling him a "wet blanket", I'll tell you what I tell any other critic: try it before you knock it. |
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TheXtremisT
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Post by TheXtremisT on Nov 29, 2013 13:46:58 GMT -5
I can't see how that's only '2 real heel turns' if you have Bully, Devon, Garrett and Wes turning. Plus I'd never go as far as saying Wes is as talented as you're saying. He botched so often, was awful on camera and couldn't speak/act convincingly for the stories that he was involved in. He was more like a wet blanket. I'd take Bischoff over Brisco for those reasons. -- Had you comprehended what I said in my post, Wes/Garrett was 1 occasion (technically 2 individuals, but 1 heel turn as a duo), and I acknowledged Bully's heel turn as the other. Devon wasn't so much as a heel turn, as it was a revealing when he as unmasked @ BFG'12 (remember, it was thought that Devon was gone completely from the company prior to this, so there was technically no character to turn... just a revealing). And calling Wes Brisco a "wet blanket" - you must've missed his GutCheck match with Garrett... the guy impressed me - I'll take a great in-ring performer over a great segment actor any day, but that's just me. And we didn't even see him at his best, during that match! I hardly recall Wes botching spots, as he always seemed to have good ring timing (in my eyes), but if you noticed something I didn't, I'd chalk it up as to having to work in jeans during matches. When I used to train at Severn's camp, I worked a match with a buddy of mine on a non-training day, wearing jeans... I have a whole nother respect for guys who can work in jeans, because it makes it that much tougher for maneuverability. So before you resort to calling him a "wet blanket", I'll tell you what I tell any other critic: try it before you knock it. I'm not buying into 'technicalities' with you, so let's nip that in the bud. His gut check match was short, and didn't seem anything special. And every time he went out to perform, he botched at least once and more often twice, his timing was off. I call it like I see it. He is not as talented as you are believing. And for the jeans comment - you look at Anderson, Devon, Knux and DOC wrestling in jeans in every match, and I never noticed them botch. I saw Bischoff botch a handful of times, but he's still green. I couldn't help but notice whenever Brisco was out there he would mistime things. Just look at the awful way he took Jeff's Twist of Fate, not once but twice. |
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Nov 29, 2013 14:03:16 GMT -5
Glad it is over, thank jebus.  |
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