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Post by Chip on Dec 15, 2013 23:18:19 GMT -5
so i guess after tonight we are getting the following:
Shield break up (that no one wants)
Tons of Funk break up (that no one cares about)
Bryan/Wyatts drama continuing (no one wants because they want Bryan fighting for the title)
another Orton & Cena feud (no one wants to see)
no more WHC (which means no one besides the true "big guys" will ever get a good main event spot again)
even more filler on PPVs (since there's 1 less title now, there will have to be more meaningless matches....or maybe they'll just start throwing everyone in tag matches)
sounds like things are going swmmingly
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Dec 15, 2013 23:18:34 GMT -5
I've never understood this either...They always end at :45, but the PPV is scheduled until the hour. Why not use the time? Which matches would have gotten extra time? Too many matches to give each match 2 extra minutes. PPV companies cut off at 10:00. If they go over they are  ed like WCW was. They'd rather cut it short than risk going long and people missing out. I understand that's the reason, but it doesn't make much sense because the thing that's on afterward is just a repeat of the same show (which you can watch for free since you already ordered it). |
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Post by Epic Z on Dec 15, 2013 23:19:07 GMT -5
Why is it that Raw ends 15 minutes late and PPVs end 15 minutes early??? I've never understood this either...They always end at :45, but the PPV is scheduled until the hour. Why not use the time? Because they don't want to pull a WCW and have there PPV cut off right at the end and have people screwed out of there 60 bucks, and on RAW they know that it doesn't matter how late it is USA won't cut of the broadcast. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 15, 2013 23:19:31 GMT -5
Which matches would have gotten extra time? Too many matches to give each match 2 extra minutes. PPV companies cut off at 10:00. If they go over they are ed like WCW was. They'd rather cut it short than risk going long and people missing out. I understand that's the reason, but it doesn't make much sense because the thing that's on afterward is just a repeat of the same show (which you can watch for free since you already ordered it). But then the replay would have to go long which would throw off all the other PPVs. |
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Post by Chip on Dec 15, 2013 23:20:12 GMT -5
instead they put on mediocre shows with screwjob endings or predictable boring endings to make people feel screwed out of 60 bucks  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 23:20:15 GMT -5
Tag match was good, Shield and Punk match was good, Wyatts vs Bryan was good, Cena and Orton was decent but a bit disappointing with a botched finish. All the other matches sucked. Also Cole said that this would be Cena's biggest win of his career.. Uh I think beating the Rock at WM 29 is 10x bigger. And they kept saying that it was the biggest match in the history of WWE am I the only one who thinks Rock/Hogan Rock/Austin Rock/Cena Taker/H HBK/Bret ETC was all MUCH bigger!? All I have to say after watching this is: TNA>WWE Dude that last Impact was off the chain! Best Impact of the year I think. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 23:20:18 GMT -5
Match of the night was definitely the 4 way Tag match, that would of won tag match of the year if there was a slammy for it
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Post by Joey Cush on Dec 15, 2013 23:24:36 GMT -5
Too bad I fell asleep during the tag match. Damn
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Post by wwextreme25 on Dec 15, 2013 23:27:13 GMT -5
was watching the ppv on sky go on my laptop (UKers will understand what i mean)
and my internet got cut off halfway through orton vs cena. I then quickly tried to use my phone as a hotspot to connect, still wouldnt connect and my internet was down. So tried turning my internet modem off and on, still didnt work!
I didnt initially wanna have to go downstairs to my living room to watch it as my parents were asleep and i didnt wanna wake them as their room is directly above my living room. But since i was missing the match i did, turned on the tele and it was on the bit where oront got some handcuffs so near the end of the match...
Basically im asking, did i miss much or? cause from what i saw, the match didnt seem that good at all for the big "spectacle" of the night. Sure it had some cool elements in there but still..
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Post by Chip on Dec 15, 2013 23:29:33 GMT -5
its amazing, last year at this time we all were watching Dolph Ziggler thinking that he was finally going to get to that next level. Like he was going to be the next big guy, the next one to step up to the main event and sell out arenas with the others. He was in the MAIN EVENT of the last PPV of 2012 getting a WIN over John Cena for his MITB briefcase. He was being talked about all over the place as one of the best in the business, with all the momentum in the world. Crowds were starting to get behind him, fans were ready to explode when he finally cashed in the case and won. (assuming he would) We are one year later....Ziggler is JOBBING on the PRE SHOW to a character with a lame & boring gimmick who barely wins matches in his own right. I just don't understand wrestling sometimes.... But at least Randy Orton got his moment, he hasn't had any of those ya know. Can't wait for tomorrow when they begin to build to Cena/Orton 2,436 at Wrestlemania 30 with Cena playing the roll he's never played before, the Underdog  |
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Post by Rob on Dec 15, 2013 23:29:44 GMT -5
What a lackluster main event. Crowd couldn't have been anymore dead. Tag match was an easy MOTN.
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Post by Chip on Dec 15, 2013 23:32:54 GMT -5
oh yeah, one thing i noticed that's kind of funny....
the WWE Championship used to be referred to as "World Heavyweight Wrestling Champion"
go look at pictures of the Winged Eagle....hell, even the Smoking Skull belt had that on it. So they really didn't come up with a NEW name, they just went back to the original one.
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Post by J12 on Dec 15, 2013 23:43:50 GMT -5
They schedule the shows to end early so that they have a buffer for things that run long. The show is getting cut at 11:00pm whether it's done or not, this isn't Raw.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Dec 15, 2013 23:47:00 GMT -5
I understand that's the reason, but it doesn't make much sense because the thing that's on afterward is just a repeat of the same show (which you can watch for free since you already ordered it). But then the replay would have to go long which would throw off all the other PPVs. True, but you could have the replay go 3.5 hours. It would make more sense than just cutting it off the second it hits ten. That being said, if WWE gave us 2:45 of quality entertainment every PPV, no one would really care. That's still more than Raw with all of the commercials/useless crap... Unfortunately, those appear on the PPV, too. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 15, 2013 23:53:48 GMT -5
But then the replay would have to go long which would throw off all the other PPVs. True, but you could have the replay go 3.5 hours. It would make more sense than just cutting it off the second it hits ten. That being said, if WWE gave us 2:45 of quality entertainment every PPV, no one would really care. That's still more than Raw with all of the commercials/useless crap... Unfortunately, those appear on the PPV, too. PPV providers then lose out on a half hour of money they could be making from other shows. So if they extended the time then PPV prices would probably rise and no one wants that. And for everyone else, ending early isn't a recent thing. I remember as a kid seeing it was nearly 9:45 and knowing the PPV would be over fairly quick. They have gone over in the past. WrestleMania 27 springs to mind but you see how the main event suffered because they had to rush due to cutting it so close. |
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Post by Jamie on Dec 16, 2013 1:45:06 GMT -5
Complaints...
Why did you all buy it? Yes, the card looked better than the show panned out, but if you are a fan you'll enjoy it.
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Post by Edge618 on Dec 16, 2013 2:02:53 GMT -5
Calling it the WWE World Heavyweight Championship is absolutely stupid for many reasons. One thing, there hasn't been weight divisions in wrestling in over a decade, and even then they weren't really enforced. Another thing, this leads me to believe there will be no new belt, and the WHC will not be absorbed into the WWE title like it should be. I knew WWE would not pass the novelty of the top guy carrying 2 belts. And lastly I know the WHC is prestigious, but original WWE titles should always absorb titles not created by WWE. It doesn't make the title absorbed less meaningful, it's just common sense
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Post by Escape The Rules on Dec 16, 2013 3:39:23 GMT -5
its amazing, last year at this time we all were watching Dolph Ziggler thinking that he was finally going to get to that next level. Like he was going to be the next big guy, the next one to step up to the main event and sell out arenas with the others. He was in the MAIN EVENT of the last PPV of 2012 getting a WIN over John Cena for his MITB briefcase. He was being talked about all over the place as one of the best in the business, with all the momentum in the world. Crowds were starting to get behind him, fans were ready to explode when he finally cashed in the case and won. (assuming he would) We are one year later....Ziggler is JOBBING on the PRE SHOW to a character with a lame & boring gimmick who barely wins matches in his own right. I just don't understand wrestling sometimes.... But at least Randy Orton got his moment, he hasn't had any of those ya know. Can't wait for tomorrow when they begin to build to Cena/Orton 2,436 at Wrestlemania 30 with Cena playing the roll he's never played before, the Underdog They booked Ziggler like crap all the way up until his title win, I really wasn't expecting anything major from it at all. Highly doubt Orton v Cena is the WM main event, I'm certain Bryan will win the Rumble, it just seems people have absolutely no patience. I really doubt WWE don't realise what they have in Bryan, he'll get his time. Everyone in the IWC just wants everything here & now... |
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Post by Jamie on Dec 16, 2013 5:49:00 GMT -5
I too hate the name. Technically, it's always been the WWE World Heavyweight Championship and the WWE Championship.
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Post by King Silva on Dec 16, 2013 7:51:10 GMT -5
its amazing, last year at this time we all were watching Dolph Ziggler thinking that he was finally going to get to that next level. Like he was going to be the next big guy, the next one to step up to the main event and sell out arenas with the others. He was in the MAIN EVENT of the last PPV of 2012 getting a WIN over John Cena for his MITB briefcase. He was being talked about all over the place as one of the best in the business, with all the momentum in the world. Crowds were starting to get behind him, fans were ready to explode when he finally cashed in the case and won. (assuming he would) We are one year later....Ziggler is JOBBING on the PRE SHOW to a character with a lame & boring gimmick who barely wins matches in his own right. I just don't understand wrestling sometimes.... But at least Randy Orton got his moment, he hasn't had any of those ya know. Can't wait for tomorrow when they begin to build to Cena/Orton 2,436 at Wrestlemania 30 with Cena playing the roll he's never played before, the Underdog OMG if I could like your post twice I would.. It is the God damn truth and it is ing sad that WWE screwed Dolph over.. |
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