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Post by J-MANN on Dec 30, 2013 23:32:07 GMT -5
That we have so many die-hard wrestling fans, and there isn't a product out there on television that isn't straight up garbage. I feel the only reason I try and watch the WWE anymore is because that's all we've got. It sucks this is what we get, and we can't do anything to change it.
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Post by Epic Z on Dec 30, 2013 23:45:22 GMT -5
 If you don't like that then go on a website that you can watch ROH, there are tons of more options right now then WWE. You just have got to give everything a chance and find something you like. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 23:46:43 GMT -5
WWE definitely has gone downhill in recent years, but there are always alternatives. And if you don't like it, don't watch it
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Post by Doctor Worm on Dec 30, 2013 23:50:37 GMT -5
Actually, I have to say, WWE normally has stuff for Die-hard wrestling fans as of late. There's normally at least one segment or match on RAW that will appeal to the straight up wrestling fans.
Even if, you don't seem to be looking far. If you have three hours to devote to watching RAW, watch NXT. That show is a wrestling fan's wet dream. It's amazing most weeks.
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Post by rudyhoneybee on Dec 30, 2013 23:56:03 GMT -5
This is how I feel everytime someone complains about the WWE or anything TV related. It is entertainment with ups and downs and no matter what happens people bitch. People are and will never be satisfied and if it is such an inconvenience in your perfect existence than don't watch. It is not hard, I've watched WWE for years and there have been downright awful sometimes but I continuously watch it because I can relax and watch it change over time. A blanket statement of "...there isn't a product out there on television that isn't straight up garbage" is more sad than anything that you cannot look past things.
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Post by Falconsinclair on Dec 31, 2013 0:00:20 GMT -5
If everyone on here actually stopped watching and DVR'ing the WWE product and the numbers dropped to the range of TNA & ROH to a lesser extent than you damn well bet the WWE would put some serious effort into the product. Sadly I don't see that happening. I would love to see the WWE get back into the Attitude Era ratings, but without the show having that "Must see TV" feel to it those numbers will NEVER happen again.
Maybe the new network (if they move) will pressure the WWE to step up their game, sadly if they stay where they are I can't see that happening. I think this new TV Rights deal will be make or break for the WWE as far as ratings are concerned
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Dec 31, 2013 0:03:10 GMT -5
Was I the only one that enjoyed RAW tonight? I felt it was awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2013 0:07:44 GMT -5
Was I the only one that enjoyed RAW tonight? I felt it was awesome. It was awesome, especially with no Cena or Orton. Then everything changed when the Wyatt nation attacked. |
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Post by Flair Forever on Dec 31, 2013 0:19:27 GMT -5
I've been checking out some local independent wrestling organizations, lately - there are three that have shows regularly within driving distance and two or three more that are a little further (like an hour). They are a lot of fun, I'd encourage you to check them out!
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It's sad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2013 0:21:10 GMT -5
Was I the only one that enjoyed RAW tonight? I felt it was awesome. It was awesome, especially with no Cena or Orton. Then everything changed when the Wyatt nation attacked. Yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed Raw tonight up until the end. I'm hoping Bryan's just playing the Wyatt Family, but with WWE's constant burying of guys that the fans are really behind, I don't really see that happening. |
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Post by Mr. Orange on Dec 31, 2013 0:23:37 GMT -5
PWG is the best wrestling company out there. Bar none.
On topic, I honestly... I'm holding faith. But I dont know what they're thinking.
- Brock Lesnar, Batista (realistically he's not going to be floating in the mid card), Cena and Orton are the top 4 guys realistically in the title picture heading in to WrestleMania. Cena/Orton itself will not headline, thus enter whoever's not fighting the Undertaker at Mania. It's likely Undertaker/Lesnar, and with 'Tista in the Rumble, I wouldn't put it past them to have him win it, because we want another part timer in the main event! Honestly, I love Batista, but in NO WAY does he or anyone else besides Bryan deserve that conquering face spotlight at Mania.
- Bryan is in no mans land with the Wyatts. The best thing that can happen now is he knee's Wyatt's head off to win the Rumble, then goes on to win the title at Mania. Will that happen? Not over Cena's alive body, and WWE clearly dont think Bryan can do it by himself. We're likely getting a "Cena shows Bryan the light" deal leading to a Yes chant with Cena/Bryan at Mania. Great. Bryan wont be quite as popular as before, BECAUSE he turned. Briefly, but he showed he can be swayed. Just like Austin turning back after the InVasion. It betrays the audience's trust. They loved him as the underdog. Cena is still so popular because he's NEVER been swayed. Hogan wouldn't have been swayed in 87.
- The Shield is breaking up. It's GOOD. As a group, there's NOTHING they can do left besides fight the Wyatts, and the Wyatts are booked. People bitch about so many 6 man tags being stale. Well, there's a way to end that. It's time to do it. Reigns will be the guy to beat Ambrose for the US title & go babyface. Because WWE has no idea how to handle top babyfaces, he'll flounder quick unless WWE falls in love with him like Cena, Sheamus and Orton.
- Punk is just there for now. In all liklihood, Punk goes against Triple H & the Authority. Which is badass.
So, honestly Mania COULD be this:
WWE Title: Orton vs. Batista
The Streak vs. The Beast: Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar
For Bryan's Freedom: John Cana vs. Bray Wyatt or John Cena & Daniel Bryan vs. The Wyatt Family
CM Punk vs. Triple H
US Title Match: Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Dec 31, 2013 0:28:29 GMT -5
I'll say it again. My personal opinion, the 2008 WWE product was the worst I've ever seen.
So what did I do?
I left wrestling behind until 2011.
The product sucked, I didn't like it, so I didn't watch.
Try it.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Dec 31, 2013 1:05:51 GMT -5
The WWE has been in a down period for many years. But if you know anything about the business, it's cyclical. It will eventually be great again...Just DVR through RAW and find the good stuff if you hate the current product so much.
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Post by Starscream on Dec 31, 2013 1:13:20 GMT -5
It´s not that bad, it would be hilarious if people would still cheer for Bryan (only if they really turned him heel) plus this is a great moment for people to give other companies a chance, not only the indies but puroresu as well, come on guys, give other companies a chance!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2013 1:21:34 GMT -5
You can, you know, just quit watching.
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Post by Darkhawk on Dec 31, 2013 2:21:41 GMT -5
You can just quit watching and read the results online instead, so you save time and keep up without watching.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2013 2:52:30 GMT -5
Hell, I'm a "diehard" fan and I enjoy it.
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