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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jan 13, 2014 14:17:34 GMT -5
I don't see the issue. What issue I do see is TNA could hit places like Montana and likely hit good crowds because WWE hasn't touched here in 10 years. But when I was put in contact through a mutual friend I was told "TNA focuses on areas they can do a bigger impact". I find that idea to be completely backwards.
Either way, I see TNA has a highly glorified indy a lot of the time, so whatever if they do gyms. I'd rather see stars in that intimacy over a massive stadium, which is why I don't plan to go to Wrestlemania.
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Post by Scotty on Jan 13, 2014 14:47:28 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was a charity event being sponsered by tna
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Post by Jack on Jan 13, 2014 14:50:00 GMT -5
Just hope they can last long enough to get to the UK tour, I'm going to 3 out of 4 events so I'd love my tickets to be honoured! I am sure they will make it through the next 3 weeks  |
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Post by Scotty on Jan 13, 2014 16:06:41 GMT -5
I dont get why you people get so riled up over the venue or size of the audience. Its the wrestling and entertainment thats supposed to matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 16:31:52 GMT -5
That pic was taken before the show started. People were still coming in. Typical TNA hater nonsense.
Impacts were drawing several thousand people every other week for months. TNA house shows always averaged 500-900 people depending on the venvue. Just a week ago they did a NY area show that got several thousand for the house show. Now suddenly they only drew 300 fans to a show? Highly unlikely.
But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story, I suppose.
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Post by P@ul on Jan 13, 2014 18:11:35 GMT -5
That pic was taken before the show started. People were still coming in. Typical TNA hater nonsense. Impacts were drawing several thousand people every other week for months. TNA house shows always averaged 500-900 people depending on the venvue. Just a week ago they did a NY area show that got several thousand for the house show. Now suddenly they only drew 300 fans to a show? Highly unlikely. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story, I suppose. Per an attendee, this was the crowd mid-show. Card was: Dewey Barnes vs Local Wrestler Chris Sabin vs Austin Aries Gail Kim vs Madison Rayne The BroMans vs James Storm/Gunner Abyss vs Bobby Roode Magnus vs Sting Samoa Joe vs Bully Ray |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 13, 2014 18:24:11 GMT -5
WTF?! It wasnt sold out?! How can you even say it was or was not? That picture could have been taken 30 mins before showtime. People may still have been coming in. If this is from the Arkansas house shows from this past weekend, then I can tell you according to my friends....it was sold out. They went there....sat on the floor and said the place was packed and the crowd was hot all night.
The bitching and complaining never ends. TNA books a large arena and tarps, something WWE does, and people bitch they are booking a building too large. Book a small venue and they are mocked. Whatever TNA does...its wrong, wrong, wrong. Just blindly follow WWE. THATS exactly why WWE sucks so much right now. They DO NOT have to put effort into their product or become more creative or writing compelling stories. They have conditioned fans to a point that ticket prices, merchandise, etc are being over priced while putting out a poor product because they have fans conditioned that this is all acceptable. The reason WWE business declined in the early to mid 90s is because WWE tried doing it and fans sought other forms of entertainment and found another wrestling product in WCW. They started to turn away and WWE STILL refused to make changes until it started to hurt their bottom line. When they finally felt it in the purse....THEN the attitude era came and THEN WWE was forced to put out an A worthy product and bring back its core base of fans.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 13, 2014 19:00:45 GMT -5
Per reddit, this is ROH running in the same venue:  Def not the same arena. In the OP pic you can see a large woman standing to the left that is almost the same height as the wall. So its aprox 6ft wall. However in the other pic you can see the people below and its easly 10-12 feet drop to them. |
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jan 13, 2014 20:36:18 GMT -5
I'm not taking part in these threads anymore. I'm an old school TNA fan, from the days in 2004-2008 where their product was the best thing in the business. That said, I'm not a fanboy and I'm not blind. TNA is in  ing trouble. There are fans around here who won't dare believe it, but god dammit, just open your eyes. Like I said, though, I'm done. This was my last "TNA is in trouble" response. |
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Post by That 80s Guy on Jan 13, 2014 21:12:11 GMT -5
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That doesn't bother me. Hell, when I was there for the Fargo houseshow, it took place at a BAR!! Even then, the bar was jam packed, and the crowd popped LOUDLY to guys like James Storm, Bully Ray (face at the time), and especially AJ...
Besides, the WWF used to hold house shows in high school gyms in the early to mid 90s, during the "down time" of the business.
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Post by Scotty on Jan 13, 2014 21:21:00 GMT -5
Per reddit, this is ROH running in the same venue: Def not the same arena. In the OP pic you can see a large woman standing to the left that is almost the same height as the wall. So its aprox 6ft wall. However in the other pic you can see the people below and its easly 10-12 feet drop to them. Yeah idk what that guys this talking about. That roh show was at the tna asylum, the tna show was at a gym somehwere. |
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 14, 2014 10:50:26 GMT -5
 Here's another pic of the house show. Now in this pic, it looks like some seats filled, but it's sad that on a show with someone like Sting couldn't sell out a high school gym. BTW, this is the number two promotion in America, people. |
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Post by Danger10 on Jan 14, 2014 21:12:01 GMT -5
LMAO at "Gympact Wrestling"
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 15, 2014 1:55:54 GMT -5
Here's another pic of the house show. Now in this pic, it looks like some seats filled, but it's sad that on a show with someone like Sting couldn't sell out a high school gym. BTW, this is the number two promotion in America, people. That picture was taken 30 mins before showtime! People were still coming in! The guys in the ring are just fans in fancy dress! TNA is fine! Nothing is wrong! That show was sold out, my imaginary friends who were there told me! |
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Post by deskjet on Jan 16, 2014 10:47:36 GMT -5
The wrestlers are probably Like... This is bs
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 16, 2014 11:08:17 GMT -5
Here's another pic of the house show. Now in this pic, it looks like some seats filled, but it's sad that on a show with someone like Sting couldn't sell out a high school gym. BTW, this is the number two promotion in America, people. That picture was taken 30 mins before showtime! People were still coming in! The guys in the ring are just fans in fancy dress! TNA is fine! Nothing is wrong! That show was sold out, my imaginary friends who were there told me! I forgot to add, the picture I posted, was during the show. So any TNA super nerd who wants to say that my pic was before the show started, you're showing your markness for TNA lol. It's looking bad for TNA, and I hope somehow, they can pull it together, cause they have the talent to be great, but the person in charge is a clueless money mark who will convince people that things are looking good for TNA, when really are bad. Like when they had to decrease their PPVs from 12, to 4, now to 3 since Genesis was going to be a PPV and is now a TNA special episode. IMO, these TNA special episodes/free PPVs should have been done WAY earlier. Remember when WCW had around 4-5 PPVs a year and had their Clash of Champions and then slowly increased the PPVs? THIS is what TNA should have done instead of decreasing their PPVs because it made them look like they decreased them because their buy rates weren't doing good so they couldn't afford to keep so many PPVs. Universal Studios (this time) decided not to let them use their studios anymore so they were forced back on the road. Their biggest PPV couldn't even sell out 1/3 of the arena, when they were on the road with their TV shows, they couldn't even sell those out. So yeah, TNA's in major trouble and anyone who says they're not in major trouble are blind or in denial that their "precious wrestling company" might not be around in the next year or two. I will SHOCKED if TNA stays in business by 2016. |
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jan 16, 2014 11:21:54 GMT -5
I knew TNA was in bad shape, but OMG I didn't know they were in so bad shape that they couldn't even sell out a high school gym. And to top off this joke, Sting was on the card as well. That makes it even more sadder IMO. I don't really fault TNA's roster for that one.. I fault their promoting. Dixie was supposed to be a PR person before she owned TNA, and she obviously doesn't know what she's doing. Seriously, how hard is it to promote a wrestling show? Post flyers on college campuses, light poles, some social media (can't rely on this, overrated at times), get some radio spots, send a guy a few weeks in advance (like a Sting or Angle) to party/sign autographs at a mall or something. Jeeeez |
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 16, 2014 11:27:00 GMT -5
I knew TNA was in bad shape, but OMG I didn't know they were in so bad shape that they couldn't even sell out a high school gym. And to top off this joke, Sting was on the card as well. That makes it even more sadder IMO. I don't really fault TNA's roster for that one.. I fault their promoting. TNA was supposed to be a PR person before she owned TNA, and she obviously doesn't know what she's doing. Seriously, how hard is it to promote a wrestling show? Post flyers on college campuses, light poles, some social media (can't rely on this, overrated at times), get some radio spots, send a guy a few weeks in advance (like a Sting or Angle) to party/sign autographs at a mall or something. Jeeeez You know what, you're absolutely right about this and it shows just how clueless Dixie is about the wrestling business. I didn't even know she was a PR person till you said that. If I could add to your point, when has TNA ever gotten one of their wrestlers on a show like the Tonight Show, Late Night, Conan, even Michael and Kelly? I really can't name one and I don't even watch those shows, but I can name wrestlers that have showed up on those types of shows. ANY type of major promoting will help TNA, but they're not doing it right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2014 21:11:10 GMT -5
- Here are the TNA attendance figures for last weekend. Sting made rare house show appearances on both events…
January 10th live event in Bristol, Tennessee drew approximately 800 fans.
January 11th live event in McMinnville, Tennessee drew approximately 1,200 fans.
It should be noted that a WWE house show in McMinnville, Tennessee only drew 900 fans on one of their stops through the area.
As expected, these photos and supposed 300 number, is BS. These numbers which are right in line with what TNA always does was reported and verified at all the major websites. So again, non-story. Just some WWE fan who went to a TNA show for giggles, taking a photo before the show started and claiming nobody was there. As if it couldn't be more obvious, the floor seats are empty. Floor seats always sell out first and if they don't, people from the bleachers are moved down. You don't leave floor seats open, even at a house show.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 20, 2014 4:22:54 GMT -5
Oh my good gracious me.
I'm done.
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