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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 29, 2014 11:52:28 GMT -5
When's the last time we waited, and WWE actually delivered? Nexus, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan? Name it, go ahead. The audience tells you what's good and bad. It's WWE that's wrong for ignoring it, not the audience. You're delusional if you think the people that pump money into the machine are the people who should sit on their hands and not voice their opinion for what they want to see. Not to mention that this Bryan story line has been going on since August that's 6  ing months Exactly. In reality, the Bryan "Main Event" angle has already ended. We waited, and WWE gave the title to Randy Orton when it was all over. The audience forced WWE to break away from the heel turn story because Bryan was so over. When the audience didn't get what they wanted from that angle they demand WWE do something about it. I wish we got more of that honestly so that WWE would break away from the status quo. |
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jan 29, 2014 14:24:13 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan cant become the face of the WWE or a main event player... that'd mean that they're re-using the Mick Foley isnt main event caliber (goes on to win the title) storyline. Oh wait, the IWC is ok with that? I thought they didnt like reuising old storylines oh I see... they over look that because its daniel bryan.... People are more demanding these days , it seems like they'll say anything to get what they want as quick as possible. its quite sad to see whole events torn down by the fans who're more interested in getting what they want NOW, rather than waiting a few weeks for a storyline to develop... When's the last time we waited, and WWE actually delivered? Nexus, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan? Name it, go ahead. The audience tells you what's good and bad. It's WWE that's wrong for ignoring it, not the audience. You're delusional if you think the people that pump money into the machine are the people who should sit on their hands and not voice their opinion for what they want to see. Theres been a few times, Ziggler winning the gold, people wanted it to happen at Mania, everyone started kicking off because he didnt cash in etc, then he cashed in the night after, and failed to look after himself enough to carry it properly. People wanted Christian to hit the main event for ages, he did and look what happened, he won and didn't do anything exciting, within a few weeks people were complaining about his "one more match" gimmick. Zack Ryder, people were all behind him for a while, they pushed him to the US title, then everyone went off him. Same with Fandango, everyone got behind him for a few weeks and we were getting the "Vince loves Fandango" now whats he doing? "feuding" with Khali, PTP where are they now? what I'm trying to say is, the IWC get behind either the wrong people, or become "fad fans" and soon as that superstar starts going somewhere the fans kinda move on to someone else. I'm not saying D-Bryan isn't worth the risk the guy is ing awesome. But are the fans gonna be behind him like they are now in the next 5 years? I can understand why they're a little more hesitant to take the fans word and put their top belt on him, eventhough a lot of the IWC were behind Punk in the Summer Of Punk, the ratings didn't reflect that. and weather we like it or not, if its What we want vs The ratings, we will not win. ratings = money, and WWE is above everything a business. I hope Daniel does win the belt though. |
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Post by Epic Z on Jan 29, 2014 17:20:37 GMT -5
I'm going to be completely honest here in saying that I don't really care who says it, wrestlers kids, wrestlers, or random fans, but I believe two things to be very true: 1. Daniel Bryan should have won the Royal Rumble on Sunday. He is unquestionably the most popular guy on the roster and the ball, at least in the past, has always gone to that guy. 2. Someone in WWE is holding Bryan back and doesn't want him to be the guy. I don't know if it's Vince, Stephanie, Triple H, or someone else, but "management" doesn't think Bryan is the guy. This is undeniable at this point. So anyone who makes those two points, even in a roundabout way, is someone I can agree with to a certain extent. QFT. |
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Post by Brad on Jan 29, 2014 18:07:12 GMT -5
When's the last time we waited, and WWE actually delivered? Nexus, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan? Name it, go ahead. The audience tells you what's good and bad. It's WWE that's wrong for ignoring it, not the audience. You're delusional if you think the people that pump money into the machine are the people who should sit on their hands and not voice their opinion for what they want to see. Theres been a few times, Ziggler winning the gold, people wanted it to happen at Mania, everyone started kicking off because he didnt cash in etc, then he cashed in the night after, and failed to look after himself enough to carry it properly. People wanted Christian to hit the main event for ages, he did and look what happened, he won and didn't do anything exciting, within a few weeks people were complaining about his "one more match" gimmick. Zack Ryder, people were all behind him for a while, they pushed him to the US title, then everyone went off him. Same with Fandango, everyone got behind him for a few weeks and we were getting the "Vince loves Fandango" now whats he doing? "feuding" with Khali, PTP where are they now? what I'm trying to say is, the IWC get behind either the wrong people, or become "fad fans" and soon as that superstar starts going somewhere the fans kinda move on to someone else. I'm not saying D-Bryan isn't worth the risk the guy is ing awesome. But are the fans gonna be behind him like they are now in the next 5 years? I can understand why they're a little more hesitant to take the fans word and put their top belt on him, eventhough a lot of the IWC were behind Punk in the Summer Of Punk, the ratings didn't reflect that. and weather we like it or not, if its What we want vs The ratings, we will not win. ratings = money, and WWE is above everything a business. I hope Daniel does win the belt though. This is definitely a fair point. |
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Post by marino13 on Jan 29, 2014 18:15:22 GMT -5
When's the last time we waited, and WWE actually delivered? Nexus, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan? Name it, go ahead. The audience tells you what's good and bad. It's WWE that's wrong for ignoring it, not the audience. You're delusional if you think the people that pump money into the machine are the people who should sit on their hands and not voice their opinion for what they want to see. Theres been a few times, Ziggler winning the gold, people wanted it to happen at Mania, everyone started kicking off because he didnt cash in etc, then he cashed in the night after, and failed to look after himself enough to carry it properly. People wanted Christian to hit the main event for ages, he did and look what happened, he won and didn't do anything exciting, within a few weeks people were complaining about his "one more match" gimmick. Zack Ryder, people were all behind him for a while, they pushed him to the US title, then everyone went off him. Same with Fandango, everyone got behind him for a few weeks and we were getting the "Vince loves Fandango" now whats he doing? "feuding" with Khali, PTP where are they now? what I'm trying to say is, the IWC get behind either the wrong people, or become "fad fans" and soon as that superstar starts going somewhere the fans kinda move on to someone else. I'm not saying D-Bryan isn't worth the risk the guy is ing awesome. But are the fans gonna be behind him like they are now in the next 5 years? I can understand why they're a little more hesitant to take the fans word and put their top belt on him, eventhough a lot of the IWC were behind Punk in the Summer Of Punk, the ratings didn't reflect that. and weather we like it or not, if its What we want vs The ratings, we will not win. ratings = money, and WWE is above everything a business. I hope Daniel does win the belt though.  Great post! |
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 29, 2014 18:22:20 GMT -5
When's the last time we waited, and WWE actually delivered? Nexus, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan? Name it, go ahead. The audience tells you what's good and bad. It's WWE that's wrong for ignoring it, not the audience. You're delusional if you think the people that pump money into the machine are the people who should sit on their hands and not voice their opinion for what they want to see. Theres been a few times, Ziggler winning the gold, people wanted it to happen at Mania, everyone started kicking off because he didnt cash in etc, then he cashed in the night after, and failed to look after himself enough to carry it properly. People wanted Christian to hit the main event for ages, he did and look what happened, he won and didn't do anything exciting, within a few weeks people were complaining about his "one more match" gimmick. Zack Ryder, people were all behind him for a while, they pushed him to the US title, then everyone went off him. Same with Fandango, everyone got behind him for a few weeks and we were getting the "Vince loves Fandango" now whats he doing? "feuding" with Khali, PTP where are they now? what I'm trying to say is, the IWC get behind either the wrong people, or become "fad fans" and soon as that superstar starts going somewhere the fans kinda move on to someone else. I'm not saying D-Bryan isn't worth the risk the guy is ing awesome. But are the fans gonna be behind him like they are now in the next 5 years? I can understand why they're a little more hesitant to take the fans word and put their top belt on him, eventhough a lot of the IWC were behind Punk in the Summer Of Punk, the ratings didn't reflect that. and weather we like it or not, if its What we want vs The ratings, we will not win. ratings = money, and WWE is above everything a business. I hope Daniel does win the belt though. Ziggler cashing in at Mania still would have been the better choice imo. The crowd chanted for it the whole match, and Mania ended up being a one match show. Also, Ziggler had no control over Swagger giving him a concussion. Ziggler and Christian were never given an opportunity to be any kind of real champion. What did Alberto Del Rio do for ratings and merchandise sales that Ziggler, or Christian for that matter, couldn't? The answer should be absolutely nothing because nobody cares about Del Rio. Ryder got over as midcard talent and then was forced to hand the belt off to Swagger, who nobody cared about, almost immediately. Who cares if it was a fad? Run with the fad as long as possible and make money off of it. Also, who the hell else has gotten over that way at the midcard level in recent memory? Ryder was more over than Big E and The Shield combined. He doesn't have to be your favorite wrestler, you can think he sucks, but the audience got hot for him and WWE wasn't even willing to run with it for a few months, with a title that's relatively meaningless anyway. WWE has a select group of guys that they hand pick to be champions. Why has Randy Orton been champion 9,000 times when he's proven to consistently lose ratings as champion? Because he's their boy, and that's coming from an Orton fan. WWE hasn't committed, really committed, to anyone in a very, very, long time. You can't make new stars if you don't commit to anyone. This Daniel Bryan thing is incredible. The audience spoon fed Vince a new star, but Vince won't do what it takes to solidify him for the next 5 years and beyond. We don't want to like who Vince tells us to like, we want to like who we like. Vince needs to come to terms with that or get the out of the chair. |
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Post by BCizzle on Jan 30, 2014 0:13:27 GMT -5
what I'm trying to say is, the IWC get behind either the wrong people It's not just the internet fans. I mean, who is a wrestling fan these days who doesn't have the internet? Backwoods rubes? It's wrestling fans, period. They are who are cheering for Daniel Bryan. And there is no IWC opinion because people always argue on the internet about everything. Saying fans are behind the wrong people sounds like something Vince would say. So I should be like this? "Man, Batista is great! I can't wait to see him battle Orton at WM 30! John Cena is a great hero! Del Rio is a dastardly dude! I root for all the Total Divas against all the not-Total Divas! And that Triple H, he is such a bad guy - or good guy - or I'm not even sure what he's supposed to be, but whatever it is, take my money!" |
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jan 30, 2014 0:23:10 GMT -5
Lol what a whiner.
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Post by Jack on Jan 30, 2014 2:50:31 GMT -5
Pretty bold words here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 3:17:42 GMT -5
what I'm trying to say is, the IWC get behind either the wrong people It's not just the internet fans. I mean, who is a wrestling fan these days who doesn't have the internet? Backwoods rubes? It's wrestling fans, period. They are who are cheering for Daniel Bryan. And there is no IWC opinion because people always argue on the internet about everything. Saying fans are behind the wrong people sounds like something Vince would say. So I should be like this? "Man, Batista is great! I can't wait to see him battle Orton at WM 30! John Cena is a great hero! Del Rio is a dastardly dude! I root for all the Total Divas against all the not-Total Divas! And that Triple H, he is such a bad guy - or good guy - or I'm not even sure what he's supposed to be, but whatever it is, take my money!" THIS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT NO IWC THE WHOLE WC THE WRESTLIG COMMUNITY ALL OVER THE INTERNET MAN SOCIAL MEDIA EVERY FAN LOVES DANIEL BRYAN IT'S FUNNY CUZ THE DUDES SAYING ITS JUST IWC FANS ARE THE IWC FANS. THIS GUY GETS POPS LARGER THAN ORTON CENA AND EVEN BATISTA GETS BOOED FOR NOT BEING HIM. LOL IT'S FUNNy REALLY FUNNY READING THESE SMARKY PEOPLE ACT LIKE THAT!!! |
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