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Post by jordanimal on Jan 30, 2014 13:20:17 GMT -5
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Post by Sleazyness on Jan 30, 2014 13:43:56 GMT -5
There needs to be ONE thread just for CM Punk. Im not saying that anyone goes and makes one now because we already have two. Just for future reference. I mean look at how many hits this thread and the other thread has.
Its making the board unorganized. Sorry for sounding so strict but it makes sense.
Edit: Three including the "Dont Cave In" thread.
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Post by JWC on Jan 30, 2014 13:46:46 GMT -5
I'm not giving up on the best in the world. He'll be back.
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Post by RSCTom on Jan 30, 2014 14:54:09 GMT -5
I love Punk as much as everyone else but this shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. He wasn't terribly enthusiastic about the Undertaker feud which was his last interesting endeavor, and since returning from that he's been going through the motions. Why wouldn't he be annoyed and upset that his professional life is a snoozefest? He's better than that and he knows it and so does everyone else.
I get that many people are super faithful to WWE but this is a great indicator of what you have been getting and will continue to get. Everyone can pretend like WWE has the whole Daniel Bryan thing planned out but the truth is, they're struggling to make everyone happy and at the end of the day, only making their current core happy, which is an audience that is satisfied with simple storytelling and stereotypical massive heroes. The rest of us are frustrated because we like wrestling to come in different shapes, sizes and colors.
I hope Punk gets the rest that he wants and is eventually fulfilled because while I don't know him personally I can absolutely understand how he's feeling and the shoes he's in.
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Post by y2josh on Jan 30, 2014 15:31:11 GMT -5
Am I the only one who hopes he's gone for good? Clear that spot for someone who isn't just a holier-than-thou, smark's dream. Never liked the guy, never understood the hype, and now have no respect for a guy who throws a tantrum and goes home.
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Jan 30, 2014 15:43:35 GMT -5
Triple H can go  himself. He never had to threaten to quit for his spot, he just had to marry Stephanie. CM Punk IS better than 90% of the roster and as I fan I feel cheated knowing he was going to be wasted at yet another 'Mania. If Vince is still smart he'll bring Punk back and put him in the spot we want him in. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 30, 2014 16:39:46 GMT -5
WWE is a BUSINESS. They are in it to make money. Rock=MONEY. Its not spoon feeding. Its also professional wrestling. Its not fair. It never will be fair. Koko B. Ware was busting his ass on the road for years on years. Do you think he should have main evented WM at some point? Punk does work a ton of shows. He does battle injuries. And life on the road can be horrid at times. But its not all bad. You know it. I know it. He knows it. Also like in life....it isnt always fair. He who deserves it the most doesnt always get it. He who works the hardest doesnt always get to main event WM. Right now, there is NO ONE who deserves to main event WM more than Daniel Bryan. No one has a bigger gripe than he either. And yet.....I dont see him packing up and going home. Its a piss poor way to handle it. Play out your contract and hit the road when you are done. Leave WWE and tell them you are better than they are. Go out and make a ton of money in Japan and the indys and do it on your time table with your ideas. SHOW them....you dont need them. Everything he has bitched and whined about is hypocritical that I mentioned. The money most specifically. Where's my royalty check? I am not sure if you saw my question. If you were in line for a promotion but someone with who had less experience, left the company years ago, is getting paid more than you to work part time, just because they are a little more popular, would you be upset by that? If you were to receive a pay cut because of a change with in your job made, would you be upset? If you said yes to either, YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!!! Like I said, Punk and Taker both have wrestled full time for significantly greater amounts of time. There is nothing hypocritical in saying what he said. He is earning his spot just like the rest of the full time roster. The Rock is getting pay to show up a few times a year, Batista has had one match since his return, but Brock (the guy who has the least amount of required match) Has had the most matches. You (just like me) have know what is going on behind the scenes, what you are stating here is nothing but your opinion. For all we know it is a work. And I am not saying that anyone deserves the WM main event more than Bryan, if anything it is the opposite. I am not even saying it is Triple H or Vince's fault. What I am saying is that he is a human being and this isn't some hobby or form of entertainment, it is a job. And like you and me, there are parts of his job he doesn't like, but instead of just letting it fester he brings up these problems. Your question has NO relevance to Punk's situation. Let me reask and answer the question where it would be relevant and similar to Punk's situation. "If I was in line for a promotion but someone who had less experience, left the company years ago, was more popular AND made the company more money than me was to work part time and get paid more than me, would I be upset? The answer is NO! Absolutely, unequivocally NO! Reason why is simple. Its a business. It depends on earnings. I am a big believer on one being paid and receiving perks based on what they earn for the company.....not for how long they have worked for the company or how many more days they work there. The bottom line still is money. If I dont generate as much profit for the business, I dont deserve as many extra perks or as much money as the part time guy. In fact, I should be ashamed of myself. I work twice as long and cant make as much money for the company as someone working half my hours?! Welcome to reality. If you have ever worked for commission and not for salary or hourly wage....this happens every single day to thousands upon thousands of people. Its not how about how long or how much you work..,..its about how profitable you are to the company. I am firm believer that you should be paid based on your contribution to the company not because you show up and just do your job. I dont give 2 craps how long Punk or Taker has wrestled. Austin has worked considerably less for WWE and has generated more money for WWE than Punk. Should he not be considered an all time great?! Thats nonsense. Brooklyn Brawler has worked for WWE a lot longer than Punk or Taker....should he be making more money than either? Again...nonsense. My comments are based on the story listed. Whether the story is true or not true is not relevant for the discussion. Thats a whole nother debate. Maybe it is a work. Maybe its a work based in truth. Doesnt change my opinion nor does it change the facts that I have laid to support my opinion. Yes, it is a job. And like you and me, Punk has a right to not like parts of it....to grow tired of certain aspects. But like you and me, he also has the right to fulfill his commitment. He has a contract. Finish out your deal and take a hike. More than likely, you are not a contracted employee who is required to fulfill a certain number of obligations. We may quit at any point we so desired. Punk does not have that freedom. He can be sued for breech of contract for walking out. Let me ask you a question, if you were to go into a public forum...be that in a print, radio or television ad and spoke negatively towards the company you work for.....do you think you would be fired? If your company announced a major project that you were to have a big role in that same print, radio or television interviewer were to ask you about it and you responded you reserved your opinion till you got your paycheck....might you be fired for that? If you were to speak negatively for one of the legendary employees of your company that has gone on to do bigger and better things and returns to help out on a part time basis....might you be fired? As fans we all love hearing the truth. We love to see Punk speak against the WWE machine. But in reality, he is a PR nightmare. For the company who pays the money that puts food on his family's plate.....its ridiculous. This is not me supporting WWE. This me calling a spade a spade. I am just as critical of WWE as Punk is. But airing the dirty laundry publically is wrong. Walking out on the company is wrong. And not fulfilling your contract, screwing over the very people that have made you the star you are (the fans) is wrong and its selfish. |
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Post by Sleazyness on Jan 30, 2014 16:46:13 GMT -5
I am not sure if you saw my question. If you were in line for a promotion but someone with who had less experience, left the company years ago, is getting paid more than you to work part time, just because they are a little more popular, would you be upset by that? If you were to receive a pay cut because of a change with in your job made, would you be upset? If you said yes to either, YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!!! Like I said, Punk and Taker both have wrestled full time for significantly greater amounts of time. There is nothing hypocritical in saying what he said. He is earning his spot just like the rest of the full time roster. The Rock is getting pay to show up a few times a year, Batista has had one match since his return, but Brock (the guy who has the least amount of required match) Has had the most matches. You (just like me) have know what is going on behind the scenes, what you are stating here is nothing but your opinion. For all we know it is a work. And I am not saying that anyone deserves the WM main event more than Bryan, if anything it is the opposite. I am not even saying it is Triple H or Vince's fault. What I am saying is that he is a human being and this isn't some hobby or form of entertainment, it is a job. And like you and me, there are parts of his job he doesn't like, but instead of just letting it fester he brings up these problems. Your question has NO relevance to Punk's situation. Let me reask and answer the question where it would be relevant and similar to Punk's situation. "If I was in line for a promotion but someone who had less experience, left the company years ago, was more popular AND made the company more money than me was to work part time and get paid more than me, would I be upset? The answer is NO! Absolutely, unequivocally NO! Reason why is simple. Its a business. It depends on earnings. I am a big believer on one being paid and receiving perks based on what they earn for the company.....not for how long they have worked for the company or how many more days they work there. The bottom line still is money. If I dont generate as much profit for the business, I dont deserve as many extra perks or as much money as the part time guy. In fact, I should be ashamed of myself. I work twice as long and cant make as much money for the company as someone working half my hours?! Welcome to reality. If you have ever worked for commission and not for salary or hourly wage....this happens every single day to thousands upon thousands of people. Its not how about how long or how much you work..,..its about how profitable you are to the company. I am firm believer that you should be paid based on your contribution to the company not because you show up and just do your job. I dont give 2 craps how long Punk or Taker has wrestled. Austin has worked considerably less for WWE and has generated more money for WWE than Punk. Should he not be considered an all time great?! Thats nonsense. Brooklyn Brawler has worked for WWE a lot longer than Punk or Taker....should he be making more money than either? Again...nonsense. My comments are based on the story listed. Whether the story is true or not true is not relevant for the discussion. Thats a whole nother debate. Maybe it is a work. Maybe its a work based in truth. Doesnt change my opinion nor does it change the facts that I have laid to support my opinion. Yes, it is a job. And like you and me, Punk has a right to not like parts of it....to grow tired of certain aspects. But like you and me, he also has the right to fulfill his commitment. He has a contract. Finish out your deal and take a hike. More than likely, you are not a contracted employee who is required to fulfill a certain number of obligations. We may quit at any point we so desired. Punk does not have that freedom. He can be sued for breech of contract for walking out. Let me ask you a question, if you were to go into a public forum...be that in a print, radio or television ad and spoke negatively towards the company you work for.....do you think you would be fired? If your company announced a major project that you were to have a big role in that same print, radio or television interviewer were to ask you about it and you responded you reserved your opinion till you got your paycheck....might you be fired for that? If you were to speak negatively for one of the legendary employees of your company that has gone on to do bigger and better things and returns to help out on a part time basis....might you be fired? As fans we all love hearing the truth. We love to see Punk speak against the WWE machine. But in reality, he is a PR nightmare. For the company who pays the money that puts food on his family's plate.....its ridiculous. This is not me supporting WWE. This me calling a spade a spade. I am just as critical of WWE as Punk is. But airing the dirty laundry publically is wrong. Walking out on the company is wrong. And not fulfilling your contract, screwing over the very people that have made you the star you are (the fans) is wrong and its selfish. On the last paragraph, I agree. We haven't been in the position he is in though, so I dont believe that we can act like we know exactly how hes feeling and how he is wrong. We are all so quick to judge when we dont have first hand experience. I see where you are going with this. I think what we need to do is just let this play out. Some people are getting too worked up over this whole situation. |
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Post by Nick on Jan 30, 2014 16:48:25 GMT -5
I'm just sitting back reading everyone argue about all this. It's actually quite entertaining. I'm just waiting until we hear official word of Punks departure.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 30, 2014 16:59:11 GMT -5
Your question has NO relevance to Punk's situation. Let me reask and answer the question where it would be relevant and similar to Punk's situation. "If I was in line for a promotion but someone who had less experience, left the company years ago, was more popular AND made the company more money than me was to work part time and get paid more than me, would I be upset? The answer is NO! Absolutely, unequivocally NO! Reason why is simple. Its a business. It depends on earnings. I am a big believer on one being paid and receiving perks based on what they earn for the company.....not for how long they have worked for the company or how many more days they work there. The bottom line still is money. If I dont generate as much profit for the business, I dont deserve as many extra perks or as much money as the part time guy. In fact, I should be ashamed of myself. I work twice as long and cant make as much money for the company as someone working half my hours?! Welcome to reality. If you have ever worked for commission and not for salary or hourly wage....this happens every single day to thousands upon thousands of people. Its not how about how long or how much you work..,..its about how profitable you are to the company. I am firm believer that you should be paid based on your contribution to the company not because you show up and just do your job. I dont give 2 craps how long Punk or Taker has wrestled. Austin has worked considerably less for WWE and has generated more money for WWE than Punk. Should he not be considered an all time great?! Thats nonsense. Brooklyn Brawler has worked for WWE a lot longer than Punk or Taker....should he be making more money than either? Again...nonsense. My comments are based on the story listed. Whether the story is true or not true is not relevant for the discussion. Thats a whole nother debate. Maybe it is a work. Maybe its a work based in truth. Doesnt change my opinion nor does it change the facts that I have laid to support my opinion. Yes, it is a job. And like you and me, Punk has a right to not like parts of it....to grow tired of certain aspects. But like you and me, he also has the right to fulfill his commitment. He has a contract. Finish out your deal and take a hike. More than likely, you are not a contracted employee who is required to fulfill a certain number of obligations. We may quit at any point we so desired. Punk does not have that freedom. He can be sued for breech of contract for walking out. Let me ask you a question, if you were to go into a public forum...be that in a print, radio or television ad and spoke negatively towards the company you work for.....do you think you would be fired? If your company announced a major project that you were to have a big role in that same print, radio or television interviewer were to ask you about it and you responded you reserved your opinion till you got your paycheck....might you be fired for that? If you were to speak negatively for one of the legendary employees of your company that has gone on to do bigger and better things and returns to help out on a part time basis....might you be fired? As fans we all love hearing the truth. We love to see Punk speak against the WWE machine. But in reality, he is a PR nightmare. For the company who pays the money that puts food on his family's plate.....its ridiculous. This is not me supporting WWE. This me calling a spade a spade. I am just as critical of WWE as Punk is. But airing the dirty laundry publically is wrong. Walking out on the company is wrong. And not fulfilling your contract, screwing over the very people that have made you the star you are (the fans) is wrong and its selfish. On the last paragraph, I agree. We haven't been in the position he is in though, so I dont believe that we can act like we know exactly how hes feeling and how he is wrong. We are all so quick to judge when we dont have first hand experience. I see where you are going with this. I think what we need to do is just let this play out. Some people are getting too worked up over this whole situation. I agree with you. However, I do understand why people are getting worked up. One of their favorites is no longer in WWE. They feel like Mania is gonna be less cuz Punk aint there. They wont be able to see him at house shows or autograph signings, or whatever they were planning to attend. I get why people are worked up. What I wish more people could do is take the blinders off and stop believing Punk can do no wrong. |
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Post by T R W on Jan 30, 2014 17:03:44 GMT -5
CM Punk just did this so everyone could stop talking about Sting. So for that I thank him.
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Post by Sleazyness on Jan 30, 2014 17:05:39 GMT -5
On the last paragraph, I agree. We haven't been in the position he is in though, so I dont believe that we can act like we know exactly how hes feeling and how he is wrong. We are all so quick to judge when we dont have first hand experience. I see where you are going with this. I think what we need to do is just let this play out. Some people are getting too worked up over this whole situation. I agree with you. However, I do understand why people are getting worked up. One of their favorites is no longer in WWE. They feel like Mania is gonna be less cuz Punk aint there. They wont be able to see him at house shows or autograph signings, or whatever they were planning to attend. I get why people are worked up. What I wish more people could do is take the blinders off and stop believing Punk can do no wrong. I agree. I pointed that out also, he gets bitter a lot and it is quite annoying. |
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Post by Jamal on Jan 30, 2014 17:37:29 GMT -5
How come I keep reading Punks last great fued was against Taker? His fued with Lesnar was excellent and they had the MOTY.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jan 30, 2014 17:44:15 GMT -5
I am not sure if you saw my question. If you were in line for a promotion but someone with who had less experience, left the company years ago, is getting paid more than you to work part time, just because they are a little more popular, would you be upset by that? If you were to receive a pay cut because of a change with in your job made, would you be upset? If you said yes to either, YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!!! Like I said, Punk and Taker both have wrestled full time for significantly greater amounts of time. There is nothing hypocritical in saying what he said. He is earning his spot just like the rest of the full time roster. The Rock is getting pay to show up a few times a year, Batista has had one match since his return, but Brock (the guy who has the least amount of required match) Has had the most matches. You (just like me) have know what is going on behind the scenes, what you are stating here is nothing but your opinion. For all we know it is a work. And I am not saying that anyone deserves the WM main event more than Bryan, if anything it is the opposite. I am not even saying it is Triple H or Vince's fault. What I am saying is that he is a human being and this isn't some hobby or form of entertainment, it is a job. And like you and me, there are parts of his job he doesn't like, but instead of just letting it fester he brings up these problems. Your question has NO relevance to Punk's situation. Let me reask and answer the question where it would be relevant and similar to Punk's situation. "If I was in line for a promotion but someone who had less experience, left the company years ago, was more popular AND made the company more money than me was to work part time and get paid more than me, would I be upset? The answer is NO! Absolutely, unequivocally NO! Reason why is simple. Its a business. It depends on earnings. I am a big believer on one being paid and receiving perks based on what they earn for the company.....not for how long they have worked for the company or how many more days they work there. The bottom line still is money. If I dont generate as much profit for the business, I dont deserve as many extra perks or as much money as the part time guy. In fact, I should be ashamed of myself. I work twice as long and cant make as much money for the company as someone working half my hours?! Welcome to reality. If you have ever worked for commission and not for salary or hourly wage....this happens every single day to thousands upon thousands of people. Its not how about how long or how much you work..,..its about how profitable you are to the company. I am firm believer that you should be paid based on your contribution to the company not because you show up and just do your job. I dont give 2 craps how long Punk or Taker has wrestled. Austin has worked considerably less for WWE and has generated more money for WWE than Punk. Should he not be considered an all time great?! Thats nonsense. Brooklyn Brawler has worked for WWE a lot longer than Punk or Taker....should he be making more money than either? Again...nonsense. My comments are based on the story listed. Whether the story is true or not true is not relevant for the discussion. Thats a whole nother debate. Maybe it is a work. Maybe its a work based in truth. Doesnt change my opinion nor does it change the facts that I have laid to support my opinion. Yes, it is a job. And like you and me, Punk has a right to not like parts of it....to grow tired of certain aspects. But like you and me, he also has the right to fulfill his commitment. He has a contract. Finish out your deal and take a hike. More than likely, you are not a contracted employee who is required to fulfill a certain number of obligations. We may quit at any point we so desired. Punk does not have that freedom. He can be sued for breech of contract for walking out. Let me ask you a question, if you were to go into a public forum...be that in a print, radio or television ad and spoke negatively towards the company you work for.....do you think you would be fired? If your company announced a major project that you were to have a big role in that same print, radio or television interviewer were to ask you about it and you responded you reserved your opinion till you got your paycheck....might you be fired for that? If you were to speak negatively for one of the legendary employees of your company that has gone on to do bigger and better things and returns to help out on a part time basis....might you be fired? As fans we all love hearing the truth. We love to see Punk speak against the WWE machine. But in reality, he is a PR nightmare. For the company who pays the money that puts food on his family's plate.....its ridiculous. This is not me supporting WWE. This me calling a spade a spade. I am just as critical of WWE as Punk is. But airing the dirty laundry publically is wrong. Walking out on the company is wrong. And not fulfilling your contract, screwing over the very people that have made you the star you are (the fans) is wrong and its selfish. You're looking at this like it's about money for Punk, and it clearly isn't. Everything we've ever read has been about how he saves his money and never makes any lavish purchases. Is it so hard to believe that there are some guys who are in this business because they genuinely love it? I guarantee you if you asked guys like Punk and Bryan to choose between being in the main event of Wrestlemania and earning their normal pay versus sitting in the back watching Batista wrestle in the main event and earning a larger paycheck, they'd choose being able to main event ten times out of ten. Not everybody lives like John Cena or Ric Flair; there are guys who don't let the fame get to their heads and continue to live the same simple lives they had before they started making millions of dollars. And you can't possibly compare a professional wrestler who wrestles 300 days a year and is in the public eye 24/7 to your average blue collar employee who works a 9-5 job. If you were displeased about things at work and were asked about it 500 times a day between Twitter, fans walking up to you on the street and press interviews I have a feeling you would crack, too. He wants the WWE to know how unhappy he is in his interviews so that they eventually decide they have to do something about it. If there's no room to continue moving up, why keep going to work every day with a stupid smile plastered on your face when everyone knows deep down you're lying and hate it there? |
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Post by RSCTom on Jan 30, 2014 17:50:53 GMT -5
How come I keep reading Punks last great fued was against Taker? His fued with Lesnar was excellent and they had the MOTY. Match was great but he's been sleeping through everything that isn't actually wrestling since the stuff with Taker ended. You can see it in his eyes, the way he speaks, everything. It isn't the same. I honestly didn't care much for the Taker feud either as I could see his enthusiasm fading even then but as I'm not much of a fan of Brock other than in UFC I had actually forgotten about it. The Brock feud, regardless of the match, saw Punk going through the motions just as he did with The Shield and the Wyatts and whatever else has gone on since last April. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 30, 2014 17:58:29 GMT -5
Your question has NO relevance to Punk's situation. Let me reask and answer the question where it would be relevant and similar to Punk's situation. "If I was in line for a promotion but someone who had less experience, left the company years ago, was more popular AND made the company more money than me was to work part time and get paid more than me, would I be upset? The answer is NO! Absolutely, unequivocally NO! Reason why is simple. Its a business. It depends on earnings. I am a big believer on one being paid and receiving perks based on what they earn for the company.....not for how long they have worked for the company or how many more days they work there. The bottom line still is money. If I dont generate as much profit for the business, I dont deserve as many extra perks or as much money as the part time guy. In fact, I should be ashamed of myself. I work twice as long and cant make as much money for the company as someone working half my hours?! Welcome to reality. If you have ever worked for commission and not for salary or hourly wage....this happens every single day to thousands upon thousands of people. Its not how about how long or how much you work..,..its about how profitable you are to the company. I am firm believer that you should be paid based on your contribution to the company not because you show up and just do your job. I dont give 2 craps how long Punk or Taker has wrestled. Austin has worked considerably less for WWE and has generated more money for WWE than Punk. Should he not be considered an all time great?! Thats nonsense. Brooklyn Brawler has worked for WWE a lot longer than Punk or Taker....should he be making more money than either? Again...nonsense. My comments are based on the story listed. Whether the story is true or not true is not relevant for the discussion. Thats a whole nother debate. Maybe it is a work. Maybe its a work based in truth. Doesnt change my opinion nor does it change the facts that I have laid to support my opinion. Yes, it is a job. And like you and me, Punk has a right to not like parts of it....to grow tired of certain aspects. But like you and me, he also has the right to fulfill his commitment. He has a contract. Finish out your deal and take a hike. More than likely, you are not a contracted employee who is required to fulfill a certain number of obligations. We may quit at any point we so desired. Punk does not have that freedom. He can be sued for breech of contract for walking out. Let me ask you a question, if you were to go into a public forum...be that in a print, radio or television ad and spoke negatively towards the company you work for.....do you think you would be fired? If your company announced a major project that you were to have a big role in that same print, radio or television interviewer were to ask you about it and you responded you reserved your opinion till you got your paycheck....might you be fired for that? If you were to speak negatively for one of the legendary employees of your company that has gone on to do bigger and better things and returns to help out on a part time basis....might you be fired? As fans we all love hearing the truth. We love to see Punk speak against the WWE machine. But in reality, he is a PR nightmare. For the company who pays the money that puts food on his family's plate.....its ridiculous. This is not me supporting WWE. This me calling a spade a spade. I am just as critical of WWE as Punk is. But airing the dirty laundry publically is wrong. Walking out on the company is wrong. And not fulfilling your contract, screwing over the very people that have made you the star you are (the fans) is wrong and its selfish. You're looking at this like it's about money for Punk, and it clearly isn't. Everything we've ever read has been about how he saves his money and never makes any lavish purchases. Is it so hard to believe that there are some guys who are in this business because they genuinely love it? I guarantee you if you asked guys like Punk and Bryan to choose between being in the main event of Wrestlemania and earning their normal pay versus sitting in the back watching Batista wrestle in the main event and earning a larger paycheck, they'd choose being able to main event ten times out of ten. Not everybody lives like John Cena or Ric Flair; there are guys who don't let the fame get to their heads and continue to live the same simple lives they had before they started making millions of dollars. And you can't possibly compare a professional wrestler who wrestles 300 days a year and is in the public eye 24/7 to your average blue collar employee who works a 9-5 job. If you were displeased about things at work and were asked about it 500 times a day between Twitter, fans walking up to you on the street and press interviews I have a feeling you would crack, too. He wants the WWE to know how unhappy he is in his interviews so that they eventually decide they have to do something about it. If there's no room to continue moving up, why keep going to work every day with a stupid smile plastered on your face when everyone knows deep down you're lying and hate it there? I'm looking at it as its about money, positioning, bitterness, tiredness, etc. Jebus is the one that posed a question concerning specifically financing. My response is directed towards that part of the equation. I agree with you 100%. If you arent happy....why keep doing it? But Punk knew this when he signed with WWE and he knew it even more when he resigned with WWE? Now his deal is supposed to be ending in a few months. There was your chance to walk away and tell them you dont need their money. Instead he threw a fit and walked out. Unprofessional behavior. If you are a fan of Punk, YOU like I...should be ticked off. You are correct when you said this isnt the same as Joe Bob's blue collar job. This is a job that comes with greater responsibility, greater hardships and greater compensation. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 30, 2014 18:03:10 GMT -5
Stone Cold and The Rock would be NOTHING right now if guys from the early 90s kept coming back as part timers to hog the spotlight and collect paychecks. Stone Cold and The Rock were good enough that Vince didn't need to bring back guys from the early 90s. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 30, 2014 18:08:13 GMT -5
I get that many people are super faithful to WWE but this is a great indicator of what you have been getting and will continue to get. Everyone can pretend like WWE has the whole Daniel Bryan thing planned out but the truth is, they're struggling to make everyone happy and at the end of the day, only making their current core happy, which is an audience that is satisfied with simple storytelling and stereotypical massive heroes. The rest of us are frustrated because we like wrestling to come in different shapes, sizes and colors. Wrestling does come in different shapes, sizes and colours. Mark Henry, The Great Khali, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan and Rey Mysterio have all been World champions. They're about as diverse in shape, size and colour as you can get. Most of the people upset now are upset because they only want wrestling to come in one shape and size -- shorter, thinner guys. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 18:19:05 GMT -5
But what will he bitch about now!? Seriously, he needs to get over himself. He held the WWE Title longer than anyone in 25 years or whatever, had a feud with The Rock, had a feud with the SHIELD which you'd figure would be something he'd enjoy because of the people involved, and was in a feud with the main storyline in WWE and was going to wrestle a near legend Triple H at WM, and that's not big or good enough? What else is there? A match with Randy Orton? Would THAT be bigger and better than possibly ending The Authority and Triple H, which is one of the biggest things in WWE right now? Oh, but the poor baby's not in the main event. He's seriously the biggest self mark in the world. If he's not champion and in the main event it's not good enough for him? He's one of the biggest stars in the world and had a record setting title reign and is raking in more money than most people will see in their life and is in a position a million people would kill to be in and the poor baby's bitching that it's not good enough for him? him, WWE doesn't need him. He can go away and sit at home and cry about all the money and history he made, BUT IT JUST WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH. |
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Post by Chip on Jan 30, 2014 18:34:08 GMT -5
you know everyone who is pissed off at Punk... WE DON'T KNOW WHY HE LEFT! All we know is RUMORS and DIRTSHEET SPECULATION. There is ZERO fact to ANYTHING. We don't even know if this is real. So why is everyone so ing pissed off? In the end, if Punk wanted to take some time off this may not have been the best way to do it (just walking out during Wrestlemania season). Seems kind of odd since his contract was up in 6 months anyway. It's long been known that Punk is a smart guy....doesn't party, saved his money, etc. Just because he's an bunghole to bunghole fans doesn't make him a bad guy. Just because he WANTS to be the man doesn't make him a bad guy. But it makes me think that if he really did go home, there is more to it than ANY dirtsheet writer or internet forum frequenter knows Punk JUST said the other day in an interview that he was happy Batista was back. Because 'Tista is back for 2 years, full time. I think Punk was definitley pissed that his amazing title reign from 2012-2013 was still viewed as second fiddle to John Cena most of the year, and then ended by a movie-star-turned-wrestler who was the biggest star in the world 10 years ago BECAUSE the WWE let him be so. Regardless of everything, it doesn't change the fact that we have ZERO idea why Punk apparently "went home"....so why is everyone just MAKING THINGS UP to be pissed off at Punk for?  ? Please educate yourselves and read JR's blog on this whole thing....everyone thinks JR is like the second smartest guy in the history of wrestling behind Heyman, and he does know what he's talking about here www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/jrs-talks-cm-punk-situation |
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