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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 21:04:22 GMT -5
So after watching StevieBreech's new video, this thought entered my mind. I have seen people saying that the WWE should go and give Punk whatever he wants and get him back. Steve made a big point. If WWE gives Punk what he wants, which is ultimately creative control, then WWE will be no better than WCW when Hogan and his cronies ran the company. It killed the company in the long run.
I'm not saying that this will happen to WWE, but if they let Punk win, then who says someone else won't try to get past the system. If Punk wants to leave, fine, let him. WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to him or anyone else for that matter.
What are your thoughts on this. I love Punk, but WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to get him back.
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 29, 2014 21:06:51 GMT -5
I don't know what to think. I think CM Punk was burned out
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 21:10:50 GMT -5
So after watching StevieBreech's new video, this thought entered my mind. I have seen people saying that the WWE should go and give Punk whatever he wants and get him back. Steve made a big point. If WWE gives Punk what he wants, which is ultimately creative control, then WWE will be no better than WCW when Hogan and his cronies ran the company. It killed the company in the long run. I'm not saying that this will happen to WWE, but if they let Punk win, then who says someone else won't try to get past the system. If Punk wants to leave, fine, let him. WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to him or anyone else for that matter. What are your thoughts on this. I love Punk, but WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to get him back. the only difference is hogan and his cronies was worth the money. The only people who like Punk and Bryan are in there 20s and never really seen real good old school wrestling. And no attitude era is not old school
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jan 29, 2014 21:16:58 GMT -5
So after watching StevieBreech's new video, this thought entered my mind. I have seen people saying that the WWE should go and give Punk whatever he wants and get him back. Steve made a big point. If WWE gives Punk what he wants, which is ultimately creative control, then WWE will be no better than WCW when Hogan and his cronies ran the company. It killed the company in the long run. I'm not saying that this will happen to WWE, but if they let Punk win, then who says someone else won't try to get past the system. If Punk wants to leave, fine, let him. WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to him or anyone else for that matter. What are your thoughts on this. I love Punk, but WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to get him back. the only difference is hogan and his cronies was worth the money. The only people who like Punk and Bryan are in there 20s and never really seen real good old school wrestling. And no attitude era is not old school
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Post by ricflair4ever on Jan 29, 2014 21:25:11 GMT -5
I don't think his "push" or the illogical general direction of the creative department played as much a role in this as people think. I'm sure it played some role, but I think the major factors were burn out and physical problems. I still believe he'll return to the ring at some point. Maybe not in WWE, definitely not in TNA, but somewhere down the line. And I DO think it will be WWE, because this whole situation lends itself to many creative possibilities. If he would have been able to take the year off after losing to Taker last year.....or even if he waited until Summer Slam or Survivor Series to return...we wouldn't be having this conversation at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 21:25:38 GMT -5
So after watching StevieBreech's new video, this thought entered my mind. I have seen people saying that the WWE should go and give Punk whatever he wants and get him back. Steve made a big point. If WWE gives Punk what he wants, which is ultimately creative control, then WWE will be no better than WCW when Hogan and his cronies ran the company. It killed the company in the long run. I'm not saying that this will happen to WWE, but if they let Punk win, then who says someone else won't try to get past the system. If Punk wants to leave, fine, let him. WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to him or anyone else for that matter. What are your thoughts on this. I love Punk, but WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to get him back. the only difference is hogan and his cronies was worth the money. The only people who like Punk and Bryan are in there 20s and never really seen real good old school wrestling. And no attitude era is not old school you.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 29, 2014 21:28:50 GMT -5
NOBODY should have creative control over their own character. It never works out well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 21:32:08 GMT -5
the only difference is hogan and his cronies was worth the money. The only people who like Punk and Bryan are in there 20s and never really seen real good old school wrestling. And no attitude era is not old school Only if your the chick in the pic you.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 29, 2014 21:37:50 GMT -5
the only difference is hogan and his cronies was worth the money. The only people who like Punk and Bryan are in there 20s and never really seen real good old school wrestling. And no attitude era is not old school
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jan 29, 2014 21:43:00 GMT -5
Difference is Punk has proven he knows what is best for business more than the McMahons. I'd be all for it.
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Post by BCizzle on Jan 29, 2014 21:46:50 GMT -5
I think they are doing a good job killing the company already, they don't need Punk to help. WCW pissed off fans for a long time before they began their downslide - Vince and company shouldn't forget the past.
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Post by DarthVeach on Jan 29, 2014 21:48:04 GMT -5
So after watching StevieBreech's new video, this thought entered my mind. I have seen people saying that the WWE should go and give Punk whatever he wants and get him back. Steve made a big point. If WWE gives Punk what he wants, which is ultimately creative control, then WWE will be no better than WCW when Hogan and his cronies ran the company. It killed the company in the long run. I'm not saying that this will happen to WWE, but if they let Punk win, then who says someone else won't try to get past the system. If Punk wants to leave, fine, let him. WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to him or anyone else for that matter. What are your thoughts on this. I love Punk, but WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to get him back. the only difference is hogan and his cronies was worth the money. The only people who like Punk and Bryan are in there 20s and never really seen real good old school wrestling. And no attitude era is not old school HAHAHA, that's funny. I am 40 and Punk and Bryan are two of the best the company has to offer and WWE continues to misuse them. They are 2 of the few old school style wrestlers. I have been watching since WrestleMania 3. Punk and Bryan are the closest things we have now to Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels anymore!! Yet Vince keeps pushing Cena.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 21:50:05 GMT -5
I blame Batista.
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Post by @Sweetbob on Jan 29, 2014 21:50:22 GMT -5
In Punk's recent inteview with Ariel Helwani, he mentioned that he wasn't very pleased with part-time guys, but did mention that he thought Batista was going to work more than the other guys.
He did attend the MMA event in Chicago the day before the Rumble, so maybe he is thinking about trying out MMA. It's just a hunch, but he did thank Dana and the UFC owner for a great night. I'm sure it's in the back of his mind. Punk seems like a guy who loves to be challenged.
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Post by Epic Z on Jan 29, 2014 22:24:35 GMT -5
So after watching StevieBreech's new video, this thought entered my mind. I have seen people saying that the WWE should go and give Punk whatever he wants and get him back. Steve made a big point. If WWE gives Punk what he wants, which is ultimately creative control, then WWE will be no better than WCW when Hogan and his cronies ran the company. It killed the company in the long run. I'm not saying that this will happen to WWE, but if they let Punk win, then who says someone else won't try to get past the system. If Punk wants to leave, fine, let him. WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to him or anyone else for that matter. What are your thoughts on this. I love Punk, but WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to get him back. You also watch Steviebreech?
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Post by dgnr8 on Jan 29, 2014 22:40:10 GMT -5
NOBODY should have creative control over their own character. It never works out well.
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Post by inkboy83 on Jan 29, 2014 23:00:38 GMT -5
I think the reason Punk left is the combination of being burnt out, the writing (let's face it he hasn't had a good angle since WM29) and well HHH's politics. HHH has his buddy Orton and now his buddy Dave headlining WM30. I think Punk is just getting out before it gets worse for him. I mean Punk doesn't even look like the guy from 2011 in my opinion it seems like he is underweight, very disheveled it just looks like he doesn't care.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 23:09:51 GMT -5
So after watching StevieBreech's new video, this thought entered my mind. I have seen people saying that the WWE should go and give Punk whatever he wants and get him back. Steve made a big point. If WWE gives Punk what he wants, which is ultimately creative control, then WWE will be no better than WCW when Hogan and his cronies ran the company. It killed the company in the long run. I'm not saying that this will happen to WWE, but if they let Punk win, then who says someone else won't try to get past the system. If Punk wants to leave, fine, let him. WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to him or anyone else for that matter. What are your thoughts on this. I love Punk, but WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to get him back. the only difference is hogan and his cronies was worth the money. The only people who like Punk and Bryan are in there 20s and never really seen real good old school wrestling. And no attitude era is not old school
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jan 29, 2014 23:27:14 GMT -5
So after watching StevieBreech's new video, this thought entered my mind. I have seen people saying that the WWE should go and give Punk whatever he wants and get him back. Steve made a big point. If WWE gives Punk what he wants, which is ultimately creative control, then WWE will be no better than WCW when Hogan and his cronies ran the company. It killed the company in the long run. I'm not saying that this will happen to WWE, but if they let Punk win, then who says someone else won't try to get past the system. If Punk wants to leave, fine, let him. WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to him or anyone else for that matter. What are your thoughts on this. I love Punk, but WWE shouldn't have to kiss up to get him back. the only difference is hogan and his cronies was worth the money. The only people who like Punk and Bryan are in there 20s and never really seen real good old school wrestling. And no attitude era is not old school I've been watching wrestling from all over the world since 1979. You can take Hogan, Warrior, Sid, HHH, Batista, Cena, and Orton, roll them up into a big, uncoordinated ball, and they still aren't worth one CM Punk.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Jan 29, 2014 23:35:35 GMT -5
In Punk's recent inteview with Ariel Helwani, he mentioned that he wasn't very pleased with part-time guys, but did mention that he thought Batista was going to work more than the other guys. He did attend the MMA event in Chicago the day before the Rumble, so maybe he is thinking about trying out MMA. It's just a hunch, but he did thank Dana and the UFC owner for a great night. I'm sure it's in the back of his mind. Punk seems like a guy who loves to be challenged. No way. He knows better than that. He couldn't do it.
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