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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 15:59:10 GMT -5
Eh, not the best TNA has ever looked.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 3, 2014 16:13:59 GMT -5
They were only paying him $30,000? That is equivalent to paying someone full time at $14.71. In the job I am going into, the starting salary is at least around $10,000 more. Unless you are on the indies you should be making more. He is making less than the average US citizen, Hogan really did drain them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 16:24:22 GMT -5
They were only paying him $30,000? That is equivalent to paying someone full time at $14.71. In the job I am going into, the starting salary is at least around $10,000 more. Unless you are on the indies you should be making more. He is making less than the average US citizen, Hogan really did drain them. If he was paying his own road expenses, and I assume he was, he was probably making less than $30,000. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 3, 2014 16:31:46 GMT -5
I have no idea whether 30K is true or not. But what did you expect? If you arent a main event level name, you are NOT getting paid big bucks. TNA is NOT the #2 or #3 company in the world. Its the #2 in the US. NJPW, CMLL, etc are bigger. Jesse wasnt getting outside indy work as steady as other names b/c he wasnt very good. He came from the Dudley's school and had no realy indy work on his resume. On TNA, he barely worked but a few matches. TNA IS a part time job. You gotta hustle to make good money if you are the lower card. Get yourself at indy bookings, conventions, etc. Anything and everything. And yes....waiting tables and other jobs are par for the course.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 3, 2014 16:41:50 GMT -5
I have no idea whether 30K is true or not. But what did you expect? If you arent a main event level name, you are NOT getting paid big bucks. TNA is NOT the #2 or #3 company in the world. Its the #2 in the US. NJPW, CMLL, etc are bigger. Jesse wasnt getting outside indy work as steady as other names b/c he wasnt very good. He came from the Dudley's school and had no realy indy work on his resume. On TNA, he barely worked but a few matches. TNA IS a part time job. You gotta hustle to make good money if you are the lower card. Get yourself at indy bookings, conventions, etc. Anything and everything. And yes....waiting tables and other jobs are par for the course. Still he should have been getting paid at least an extra $15k especially if they weren't paying for travel. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 16:42:41 GMT -5
TNA hasn't been a part time gig for years. I remember Styles mentioning that he personally worked on the road as much as most WWE guys. Granted, he's a bigger name and was probably busier, but people saying TNA is a part-time gig don't take into account all the house shows they do. They had an incredibly busy schedule in 2012 and 2013.
So, yeah, you're working full-time for a national promotion, you shouldn't be waiting tables on the side.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 3, 2014 16:54:52 GMT -5
I have no idea whether 30K is true or not. But what did you expect? If you arent a main event level name, you are NOT getting paid big bucks. TNA is NOT the #2 or #3 company in the world. Its the #2 in the US. NJPW, CMLL, etc are bigger. Jesse wasnt getting outside indy work as steady as other names b/c he wasnt very good. He came from the Dudley's school and had no realy indy work on his resume. On TNA, he barely worked but a few matches. TNA IS a part time job. You gotta hustle to make good money if you are the lower card. Get yourself at indy bookings, conventions, etc. Anything and everything. And yes....waiting tables and other jobs are par for the course. Still he should have been getting paid at least an extra $15k especially if they weren't paying for travel. What?! He doesnt have to work for TNA. He knows what he is getting into. Why should he get extra money for travel expenses when freaking AJ Styles doesnt? TNA hasn't been a part time gig for years. I remember Styles mentioning that he personally worked on the road as much as most WWE guys. Granted, he's a bigger name and was probably busier, but people saying TNA is a part-time gig don't take into account all the house shows they do. They had an incredibly busy schedule in 2012 and 2013. So, yeah, you're working full-time for a national promotion, you shouldn't be waiting tables on the side. TNA did do more house shows. That is true. But Jesse worked VERY FEW house shows. AJ worked a ton....but he wasnt working anywhere near 250 dates like someone in WWE does. He probably worked like 60 house shows in the year and then close to every tv taping, which was twice a month at best and close to every ppv. Probably like 100 dates a year is a good number. |
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Post by Scotty on Feb 3, 2014 17:29:30 GMT -5
You cant compare AJ and Jesse.
You have a jobber named Jesse who had like 5 matches, and you have AJ who was on pretty much every TNA show the last 10 years.
Of course Jesse is gonna make crapcompared to AJ
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 3, 2014 19:08:53 GMT -5
Still he should have been getting paid at least an extra $15k especially if they weren't paying for travel. What?! He doesnt have to work for TNA. He knows what he is getting into. Why should he get extra money for travel expenses when freaking AJ Styles doesnt? TNA hasn't been a part time gig for years. I remember Styles mentioning that he personally worked on the road as much as most WWE guys. Granted, he's a bigger name and was probably busier, but people saying TNA is a part-time gig don't take into account all the house shows they do. They had an incredibly busy schedule in 2012 and 2013. So, yeah, you're working full-time for a national promotion, you shouldn't be waiting tables on the side. TNA did do more house shows. That is true. But Jesse worked VERY FEW house shows. AJ worked a ton....but he wasnt working anywhere near 250 dates like someone in WWE does. He probably worked like 60 house shows in the year and then close to every tv taping, which was twice a month at best and close to every ppv. Probably like 100 dates a year is a good number. Because AJ Styles was getting paid more than 10 times that. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 3, 2014 19:35:22 GMT -5
What?! He doesnt have to work for TNA. He knows what he is getting into. Why should he get extra money for travel expenses when freaking AJ Styles doesnt? TNA did do more house shows. That is true. But Jesse worked VERY FEW house shows. AJ worked a ton....but he wasnt working anywhere near 250 dates like someone in WWE does. He probably worked like 60 house shows in the year and then close to every tv taping, which was twice a month at best and close to every ppv. Probably like 100 dates a year is a good number. Because AJ Styles was getting paid more than 10 times that. This is America....not communist China. AJ earned the right and ability to be paid more than Sorrensen. Jesse was just getting started and VERY lucky to even have the TNA job. |
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 3, 2014 19:46:53 GMT -5
Because AJ Styles was getting paid more than 10 times that. This is America....not communist China. AJ earned the right and ability to be paid more than Sorrensen. Jesse was just getting started and VERY lucky to even have the TNA job. No it isn', but the field I am looking into, the max wage is around twice the starting. WWE's developmental guys are getting paid more and aren't even on TV and aren't traveling to much. I am not saying hand this guy a six figure contract but at least give him one in the mid 5 figure range as opposed to the low. |
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Post by Scotty on Feb 3, 2014 20:07:34 GMT -5
This is America....not communist China. AJ earned the right and ability to be paid more than Sorrensen. Jesse was just getting started and VERY lucky to even have the TNA job. No it isn', but the field I am looking into, the max wage is around twice the starting. WWE's developmental guys are getting paid more and aren't even on TV and aren't traveling to much. I am not saying hand this guy a six figure contract but at least give him one in the mid 5 figure range as opposed to the low. Thats not true. Guys in WWE developmental are making awful pay. I remember somebody saying on one of the AOW that they only make $200 or a really low amount. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 3, 2014 20:13:42 GMT -5
This is America....not communist China. AJ earned the right and ability to be paid more than Sorrensen. Jesse was just getting started and VERY lucky to even have the TNA job. No it isn', but the field I am looking into, the max wage is around twice the starting. WWE's developmental guys are getting paid more and aren't even on TV and aren't traveling to much. I am not saying hand this guy a six figure contract but at least give him one in the mid 5 figure range as opposed to the low. Why does Jesse Sorrensen deserve $50,000?! What did he ever draw? What merch has he sold? How long did he cut his teeth on the indys? WWE developmental are being paid somewhat the same as Sorrensen. And Sorrensen BARELY traveled. He was in the Orlando area and hardly ever worked a house show. |
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Post by marino13 on Feb 4, 2014 11:06:15 GMT -5
Jesse was green and was around for a cup of coffee. So in no way should he have made much more.
And It's stupid for any of us to tell TNA how to spend their finances on their talent. They have their reasons. Same reason why many rookie NFL players don't make as much as the stars do. Plus like CM Showstopper™ said, Jesse knew what he was getting into before he signed.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 4, 2014 13:56:05 GMT -5
They were only paying him $30,000? That is equivalent to paying someone full time at $14.71. In the job I am going into, the starting salary is at least around $10,000 more. Unless you are on the indies you should be making more. He is making less than the average US citizen, Hogan really did drain them. Nothing to do with Hogan. TNA was paying the low-end talent bad money way before Hogan was there. A lot of the roster was paid on a per-appearance deal, and it was something low like $300. The idea being that the TV exposure then gets you more indie bookings, appearances etc. A lot of the TNA roster have had day jobs too, the Knockouts champion would be selling sunglasses at the mall etc. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 4, 2014 14:58:04 GMT -5
Jesse was green and was around for a cup of coffee. So in no way should he have made much more. And It's stupid for any of us to tell TNA how to spend their finances on their talent. They have their reasons. Same reason why many rookie NFL players don't make as much as the stars do. Plus like CM Showstopper™ said, Jesse knew what he was getting into before he signed. I agree with you he shouldn't expect to get paid like AJ, Daniels or any of the veterans in TNA especially him being new and all. He should stop whining, because this is him paying his dues as a wrestler and I guarantee mostly every wrestler has been through it. I asked Manik about it and he says he still owes money from the medical bills for his injuries in the indies. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 16:29:37 GMT -5
I'd like to hear the defense of Dixie promising she'd pay the medical bills then refusing to do so.
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Post by StingerSplash on Feb 4, 2014 16:41:59 GMT -5
Regardless of how much he was making, Dixie and TNA are pretty low to bail on his medical bills after promising him they'd take care of it. Shows what kind of class you have running that organization.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 4, 2014 17:12:27 GMT -5
If Dixie bailed on paying the medical bills that she promise to pay, its low and BS. But thats IF. Cuz right now all we have is Jesse's side. And lets face it, Sorrensen has been EXTREMELY bitter since his departure. I always think the truth lies in the middle. Perhaps she said she would cover some, she paid those some, but Jesse was responsible for the portion.
Bottom line its a damn shame what happened to him. I dont think he was ready for TNA and should have been working indys to get some more experience. He had a very old school Orton look and had a chance to be a star.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 15:22:26 GMT -5
If Dixie bailed on paying the medical bills that she promise to pay, its low and BS. But thats IF. Cuz right now all we have is Jesse's side. And lets face it, Sorrensen has been EXTREMELY bitter since his departure. I always think the truth lies in the middle. Perhaps she said she would cover some, she paid those some, but Jesse was responsible for the portion. Bottom line its a damn shame what happened to him. I dont think he was ready for TNA and should have been working indys to get some more experience. He had a very old school Orton look and had a chance to be a star. For the record, Daffney had a very similar story to Jesse's: they promised her they'd cover the medical bills, then spent the next year giving her the run around. April Hunter mentioned not wanting to sign because she always heard about them giving people the run around on hospital bills and that she knew two girls fighting to get them paid (presumably Daffney was one, no clue who the other was). You can say "Well, Jesse is just bitter" but it's not like he's saying anything that hasn't been said before. You look at TNA's history, and it looks bad for them here. |
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