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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 3:14:47 GMT -5
Well, sock color is a legitimate issue. those argyle-wearing mother ers. He buddy, back off. I LOVE ARGYLE! Also, argyle is not a color. Touché.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 3:26:11 GMT -5
This could open up a loophole to discriminate against anyone for anything on the basis of religious beliefs. Religion, race, color of your socks, if you were glasses, anything people can think of to deny people service. Why would you want to give your money to someone who clearly doesn't want it? I would not give my money to people who do not want it, I am just saying it in the general sense.
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Post by slappy on Feb 22, 2014 3:29:19 GMT -5
Why would you want to give your money to someone who clearly doesn't want it? I would not give my money to people who do not want it, I am just saying it in the general sense. It'd be a terrible business decision to discriminate and I would not go to a place that does but they should have the right to make that foolish mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 14:54:55 GMT -5
It is NOT bashing...Man...Do all you liberals think that if someone disagrees with it then they are bashing? I don't agree with it. Never will. BUT...I have seen Torch Song Trilogy so I know what they are going through. You just called gay people abnormal, then defended it by saying they are wrong for being gay. But, you're right; you saw a movie so you're totally tolerant. I watched American History X, so now I'm a racist. Or, if you're talking about the play, I saw The Phantom of the Opera, so now I can play the pipe organ. If that helps you sleep at night. My conscience is clean.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 16:16:53 GMT -5
You just called gay people abnormal, then defended it by saying they are wrong for being gay. But, you're right; you saw a movie so you're totally tolerant. I watched American History X, so now I'm a racist. Or, if you're talking about the play, I saw The Phantom of the Opera, so now I can play the pipe organ. If that helps you sleep at night. My conscience is clean. I never said you didn't have the right to state your opinion, I was just saying that if you're intolerant, own up to it. Also, free speech works both ways, so if you state your opinion, don't complain when I state I think your an bunghole for it.
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Post by Justin on Feb 22, 2014 16:22:13 GMT -5
You just called gay people abnormal, then defended it by saying they are wrong for being gay. But, you're right; you saw a movie so you're totally tolerant. I watched American History X, so now I'm a racist. Or, if you're talking about the play, I saw The Phantom of the Opera, so now I can play the pipe organ. If that helps you sleep at night. My conscience is clean. No get that crapoff of here!!! (Not your opinion, or anything you said, just the e card. Ecards suck) E Cards
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Post by Fleet Foxes on Feb 22, 2014 16:34:24 GMT -5
It's wrong but if it's a privately owned business, they should be able to refuse service to whoever they want.
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Post by Fleet Foxes on Feb 22, 2014 16:35:02 GMT -5
It's wrong but if it's a privately owned business, they should be able to refuse service to whoever they want.
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Post by Adam on Feb 22, 2014 19:59:03 GMT -5
To the taxpayers of Arizona, enjoy footing the bill when this goes to court and gets ruled unconstitutional just like all the gay marriage bans that are dropping like flies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2014 21:57:49 GMT -5
To the taxpayers of Arizona, enjoy footing the bill when this goes to court and gets ruled unconstitutional just like all the gay marriage bans that are dropping like flies. Exactly.
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Post by CrossRhodes on Feb 22, 2014 22:04:48 GMT -5
How can stuff like this Still happen in "the land of equal opportunity"... -.-
It sickens me that people still can't just learn to live and let live.
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Post by King Silva on Feb 23, 2014 10:37:36 GMT -5
To the taxpayers of Arizona, enjoy footing the bill when this goes to court and gets ruled unconstitutional just like all the gay marriage bans that are dropping like flies. Pretty much this. Arizona needs to just stop with the stupid laws.. This will fail and sooner or later they will have to recognize gay marriage.
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Post by Halloween King on Feb 23, 2014 10:39:15 GMT -5
This could open up a loophole to discriminate against anyone for anything on the basis of religious beliefs. Religion, race, color of your socks, if you were glasses, anything people can think of to deny people service. They already discriminate for color. If you are slightly tan in Arizona they will think you're hispanic/Mexican and you'll have to show them your papers, just like in Nazi Germany. Them deciding that gay's arent welcome is not a surprise to me. This slope where they pick and choose what peoples are allowed to live peacefully in Arizona isn't over.
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on Feb 23, 2014 13:24:47 GMT -5
Well, Arizona then.
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Post by Adam on Feb 24, 2014 7:52:12 GMT -5
I understand where people like Slappy are coming from, but unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world. Millions of people are entrenched in their beliefs and are never willing to change, it's kind of messed up for a minority to just sit and wait for equality in the hopes that several bigots will have a change of heart (assuming that AZ isn't the most gay-friendly state). Should we have waited for the South to eventually getting around to letting their slaves go free, or should we have "forced" them? If my fiancee and I were planning our wedding a century ago, we probably would have a hard time planning a lot of things as an interracial couple. If numerous businesses refused to serve us, should we have just thrown our hands up and gave up on planning a wedding, just for the sake of not forcing anyone to do anything?
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Post by T R W on Feb 24, 2014 8:06:11 GMT -5
What is there tons of in Arizona? Old white people. What do old white people generally not like? Homsexuals and people of color. Who votes the most in elections? Old white people.
And there you have it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 9:51:14 GMT -5
I'm absolutely appalled. I honestly can't believe it. What a terrible state. I agree...which is a shame because I have been there & could seriously get use to their lack of mosquitos
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 10:43:34 GMT -5
Guess I know someone who isn't getting married. Anyway, it's quite possible that the only people who are available are unwilling, thus leaving the LGBT community incapable of having any options. I agree that they should choose people who are willing to work with, but if there's no option... Also, telling the world that you must do something is a step towards acceptance, especially with generations to come. This is the way with all equal rights movements. Very few people wanted to work with black people or women, but after it was forced and time went on, almost nobody even considers the idea of it being a problem. Even if I wanted to it's illegal in my state. They should figure something out then instead of forcing an unwilling participant to do it. Telling someone you must do something will make them harbor hatred. If they progress naturally they won't be as resentful. Progressing naturally isn't exactly a strong suit in this situation...when a belief is based on religious views, it pretty much is set in stone. Plus, they're already harboring hatred (their choice, but that's already there - I don't say that lightly but it is a form of hate if you turn down business & want someone nowhere around) & maybe the country should push that as much as possible out of future generations. Without acceptance of others' beliefs, religions, lifestyles...we lose our humanity - it isn't agreeing with it or supporting it by giving business to a gay couple or Islamic person for example (if you're a Christian)..it is simply respecting that they are different & not pushing your beliefs on their everyday lives (not giving them a haircut/cooking them a taco/letting them buy a vehicle will negatively impact someone's life). I don't understand how this isn't a federal issue, but it will be when it's determined that someone uses "religion" as an excuse not to serve different racial groups..cuz that will happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 12:49:54 GMT -5
If that helps you sleep at night. My conscience is clean. I never said you didn't have the right to state your opinion, I was just saying that if you're intolerant, own up to it. Also, free speech works both ways, so if you state your opinion, don't complain when I state I think your an bunghole for it. Or in your case it would be the term you used, bunghole...
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Post by Adam on Feb 24, 2014 12:56:24 GMT -5
I never said you didn't have the right to state your opinion, I was just saying that if you're intolerant, own up to it. Also, free speech works both ways, so if you state your opinion, don't complain when I state I think your an bunghole for it. Or in your case it would be the term you used, bunghole... Only Obama supporters are pro-gay rights?
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