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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 5, 2014 1:44:24 GMT -5
No. I didnt say he wasnt KNOWN for his run there. I said he is MORE well known from his IWA:MS and PWG runs. You are wrong about that though. Dude laid his claim in the Midwest and then moved to the east coast, laid his claim there and literally was caws golden boy. Don't let your bias get in the way of that. You didn't even respond to my video of the whole czw arena chanting for him, yeah more well known in front of 300 stoned pwg fans right. He wrestled for czw for nearly eight years, in front of thousands and thousands of different people, how would he be more well known for 1-2 years of work in pwg? Just because he was living on the west coast when he got his wwe backstage segment with ryback? Where is your logic here cm? How can you even try and say that he is more known for his pwg run when most people will immediately think of younger as a hardcore wrestler and associate him with iwa or czw? CZW doesnt draw thousands and thousands. In addition, you dont have to attend a PWG show to be a fan. DVDS, internet, etc. I mentioned IWA....I didnt say just PWG. I said he was more well known for his IWA and PWG runs than his CZW. By the time Younger got to CZW, most hardcore indy fans knew who Drake Younger was. By the time he signed his WWE contract, he had become more than just a deathmatch wrestler and his work with PWG solidifies that....why WWE signed him.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 5, 2014 1:44:35 GMT -5
Not even remotely. CZW fans are so arrogant. They take credit for every single guy who has ever come through the CZW doors as a "CZW guy". Cept NONE of them are getting signed out of the CZW door....cept maybe Callihan. They all are making their names in other feds. Is a Hero a "CZW guy"? Im sure CZW fans will say yes. Cept he has worked 1 show for CZW since he came back and a several more for ROH. Hell...he worked 2 for Pro Wrestling Syndicate. Not saying CZW is the only good indie fed that has contributed to WWE, but CZW has gave birth or have helped to a lot of the popular ones today get on the map. But all CZW does is break glass and throws chairs right? I'm not going to continue arguing with you people. Its not ALL CZW does....its what its known for. There have been a ton of great guys to go through the CZW locker room. And CZW has had some great matches. But the company is poorly run, poorly operated and for the most part....the shows arent all that great. There was a time CZW was awesome. There was a time CZW was good. Those times are over.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Mar 5, 2014 1:45:00 GMT -5
No. I didnt say he wasnt KNOWN for his run there. I said he is MORE well known from his IWA:MS and PWG runs. You are wrong about that though. Dude laid his claim in the Midwest and then moved to the east coast, laid his claim there and literally was caws golden boy. Don't let your bias get in the way of that. You didn't even respond to my video of the whole czw arena chanting for him, yeah more well known in front of 300 stoned pwg fans right. He wrestled for czw for nearly eight years, in front of thousands and thousands of different people, how would he be more well known for 1-2 years of work in pwg? Just because he was living on the west coast when he got his wwe backstage segment with ryback? Where is your logic here cm? How can you even try and say that he is more known for his pwg run when most people will immediately think of younger as a hardcore wrestler and associate him with iwa or czw? Not to mention the guy went to Japan, Mexico, Germany and many other European countries representing CZW. Drake is a CZW guy. I don't care what CM has to say regarding this because he is wrong. Anytime a guy is the main focal point of a company for such a long period of time and argument can be made for them being a "___" guy and its all a matter of opinion which makes this whole argument pointless. I could say that CM Punk is an IWA MS guy. Am I wrong? Nope. But is he more of an ROH guy? Your damn right. Either way I could care less I just want to see this referee rumor confirmed to be exactly that....rumor. If its true then like I said that PMA is some serious shit. I'd imagine it hurts a guys pride quite a bit to be offered a referee gig after busting your ass to get in the best shape of your life. I actually just remember something rather ironic. During one of Youngers smart mark video shoot interviews he was asked about venturing to the WWE and he almost laughed at the question like he was saying "Me? In the WWE? Lol yeah sure. Your kidding right?". Its ironic and really makes this a wonderful story about a guy turning his life completely around.
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