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Post by Hendrix83 on Apr 7, 2014 0:22:26 GMT -5
Im probably the only one who feels this way but Im just being honest; I just feel Undertaker losing, on this fashion, kind of devalues the importance of his matches the past 10 years when the streak was actually a big deal. The reason his matches with Michaels, Edge, Batista, HHH, Punk were so epic was because of the circumstances regarding the streak and now that its over, it feels like it doesnt mean anything. Like the New England Patriots, they WERE 18-0, but they lost that 1 and now it really means nothing. We can tell our grand-kids that Undertaker was 21-0 and then lost, would have been better to say, I watched Undertaker retire at 22-0. Just how I feel honestly. Yeah, a 55 year old man who can't even do his Last Ride/Tombstone or take bumps properly anymore is going to beat a former UFC Champion, in the reality era. Relax. Yeah the Last Ride was botched but the Tombstone was fine. |
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Apr 7, 2014 0:26:33 GMT -5
He wasn't even afforded the opportunity to have a re-match with Lesnar. Just sayin' Maybe he would've been if he stayed. Juuust sayin. Bryan has been shat on more than Punk ever was in his time with WWE and he got his moment. Maybe Punk's moment was yet to come. And again. We don't know why he left, so quit trying to make this about your hero because it's not. I beg to differ. |
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Post by ohernan6 on Apr 7, 2014 0:28:47 GMT -5
Yeah, a 55 year old man who can't even do his Last Ride/Tombstone or take bumps properly anymore is going to beat a former UFC Champion, in the reality era. Relax. Yeah the Last Ride was botched but the Tombstone was fine. Everyone I watched the match with agreed Undertaker looked like a mess. Brock had to constantly wait on Taker to get into position. The only reason I don't have a problem with Lesnar going over is because it's much more believable. And Taker also botched the Hell's Gate. |
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Post by Kanenite on Apr 7, 2014 0:29:37 GMT -5
I was watching with 3 friends and we all shot forward in our seats, had our hands up near our faces, and were completely silent. Time froze. Brock and Heyman were the only things moving in the Universe at that time from my view.
Still completely shocked.
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Post by Mr. K.O on Apr 7, 2014 0:30:07 GMT -5
Watching the replay, the black dude's reaction is hilarious.
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Post by Hendrix83 on Apr 7, 2014 0:31:10 GMT -5
I agree Taker didn't look great tonight. But in professional wrestling, you're only as good as your dance-partner. Undertaker is coming off a great match last year with CM Punk. I think he could've had a better match this year with Wyatt/Sting or even Cena.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Apr 7, 2014 0:31:36 GMT -5
It is what it is. Obviously if Taker didn't think it was right, he wouldn't have done it.
In the Japanese culture, if you walk away from combat undefeated, you're disgraced. If you continue to win, how can you stop fighting? You're supposed to fight until you can no longer compete. If that means you lose 10 fights in a row, thats fine. It's not wins and losses, its heart.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Apr 7, 2014 0:32:16 GMT -5
Maybe he would've been if he stayed. Juuust sayin. Bryan has been shat on more than Punk ever was in his time with WWE and he got his moment. Maybe Punk's moment was yet to come. And again. We don't know why he left, so quit trying to make this about your hero because it's not. I beg to differ. Punk's never been fired for essentially following the script. Punk's never had to dance in the middle of the ring like a jackass for the Bellas. Punk's never lost HIS World Title in 18 seconds of Wrestlemania's opening match. |
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Apr 7, 2014 0:33:45 GMT -5
It is what it is. Obviously if Taker didn't think it was right, he wouldn't have done it. In the Japanese culture, if you walk away from combat undefeated, you're disgraced. If you continue to win, how can you stop fighting? You're supposed to fight until you can no longer compete. If that means you lose 10 fights in a row, thats fine. It's not wins and losses, its heart. This guy gets it. WHY would any of you want the streak to not be broken? I was only for it not being broken, if Taker stopped at 20-0. ANYTHING AFTER THAT is disgraceful, put someone over and call it a career. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 0:34:44 GMT -5
Im probably the only one who feels this way but Im just being honest; I just feel Undertaker losing, on this fashion, kind of devalues the importance of his matches the past 10 years when the streak was actually a big deal. The reason his matches with Michaels, Edge, Batista, HHH, Punk were so epic was because of the circumstances regarding the streak and now that its over, it feels like it doesnt mean anything. Like the New England Patriots, they WERE 18-0, but they lost that 1 and now it really means nothing. We can tell our grand-kids that Undertaker was 21-0 and then lost, would have been better to say, I watched Undertaker retire at 22-0. Just how I feel honestly. You brought up the patriots. I am a diehard Pats fans yet the only thing I remember vividly in my mind was 1, 1 loss. Not 18 wins, not the fifty td passes, but 1, and this will be the same with Taker. Not 21 wins, but 1. Not the ultimate HBK matches, not the cell match with HHH, but instead I will remember the three f5s that destroyed the streak, i will remember 1. |
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Apr 7, 2014 0:35:24 GMT -5
Not to mention, guys, who's the greatest of all time in professional boxing?
Muhammad Ali. No doubt.
...How many of you are aware that he lost his last two fights, and was beaten down badly in his final performance?
Barely anyone. Because it's not what he didn't do, it's what he DID do that people remember.
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Post by J12 on Apr 7, 2014 0:35:59 GMT -5
I heard "give me the F5" clear as day during the live broadcast. Now I've gone back and I can't pinpoint the moment.
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Post by Joey Cush on Apr 7, 2014 0:36:38 GMT -5
Im probably the only one who feels this way but Im just being honest; I just feel Undertaker losing, on this fashion, kind of devalues the importance of his matches the past 10 years when the streak was actually a big deal. The reason his matches with Michaels, Edge, Batista, HHH, Punk were so epic was because of the circumstances regarding the streak and now that its over, it feels like it doesnt mean anything. Like the New England Patriots, they WERE 18-0, but they lost that 1 and now it really means nothing. We can tell our grand-kids that Undertaker was 21-0 and then lost, would have been better to say, I watched Undertaker retire at 22-0. Just how I feel honestly. You brought up the patriots. I am a diehard Pats fans yet the only thing I remember vividly in my mind was 1, 1 loss. Not 18 wins, not the fifty td passes, but 1, and this will be the same with Taker. Not 21 wins, but 1. Not the ultimate HBK matches, not the cell match with HHH, but instead I will remember the three f5s that destroyed the streak, i will remember 1. Thats what Im saying, and it sucks. You remember the loss, the one loss, not that multiple victories that got you there. The one stupid loss. Damn.. |
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Post by Booger Red on Apr 7, 2014 0:37:27 GMT -5
Maybe he would've been if he stayed. Juuust sayin. Bryan has been shat on more than Punk ever was in his time with WWE and he got his moment. Maybe Punk's moment was yet to come. And again. We don't know why he left, so quit trying to make this about your hero because it's not. I beg to differ.  |
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Post by Hendrix83 on Apr 7, 2014 0:37:39 GMT -5
Not to mention, guys, who's the greatest of all time in professional boxing? Muhammad Ali. No doubt. ...How many of you are aware that he lost his last two fights, and was beaten down badly in his final performance? Barely anyone. Because it's not what he didn't do, it's what he DID do that people remember. Floyd Mayweather, 45-0. Now there's a streak that needs to be broken. |
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Apr 7, 2014 0:41:22 GMT -5
Not to mention, guys, who's the greatest of all time in professional boxing? Muhammad Ali. No doubt. ...How many of you are aware that he lost his last two fights, and was beaten down badly in his final performance? Barely anyone. Because it's not what he didn't do, it's what he DID do that people remember. Floyd Mayweather, 45-0. Now there's a streak that needs to be broken. Haha, maybe it will be. And if it is, it doesn't matter. Floyd is a god damn technician and will go down as one of the greats. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 0:41:59 GMT -5
there are rumors about 21/1
1. Brock changed script
This one shocked me
2. Vince and WWE wanted to keep the streak and retire undertaker but undertaker refused and chose brock to defeat his streak
3. Brock actually beat the crap out of the old man and he couldn't get up ( undertaker shouldve kicked out )
Oh and undertaker retires tommorow "tommorow"
Sorry if someone else already said this
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 0:42:56 GMT -5
Not to mention, guys, who's the greatest of all time in professional boxing? Muhammad Ali. No doubt. ...How many of you are aware that he lost his last two fights, and was beaten down badly in his final performance? Barely anyone. Because it's not what he didn't do, it's what he DID do that people remember. Floyd Mayweather, 45-0. Now there's a streak that needs to be broken. mr Pac Man Manny Paci... Fuq i cant spell his last name |
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Post by JTG on Apr 7, 2014 0:45:35 GMT -5
This may have already been said, but I'm not going to go through the entire thread. My perspective after tonight is that the streak was never meant to make it to 25-0. I see it as Undertaker wanting to make it to Wrestlemania 30. That could be completely off the reservation, but that to me makes more sense than him changing the script. I look forward to seeing Raw tomorrow just to see the fallout from this match.
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Post by Hendrix83 on Apr 7, 2014 0:46:36 GMT -5
Floyd Mayweather, 45-0. Now there's a streak that needs to be broken. mr Pac Man Manny Paci...  i cant spell his last name Pacquiao probably could've done it a few years ago. We'll see how he looks this Saturday against Tim Bradley. The difference between Floyd Mayweather and Muhammad Ali, Manny Pacquiao or even The Undertaker is those guys always fought the best, they never ducked anyone and they gave rematches. Ali lost but it only added to his greatness that he came back and fought through the adversity. |
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