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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Apr 7, 2014 1:46:27 GMT -5
My apologies for having an opinion that doesnt agree with everyone else. That isn't the problem, the problem is you are an extremist. You always have some ridiculously strong opinion in one direction or the other. You said you enjoyed at least the Tag Team and Bryan matches. Congratulations, you enjoyed at least 1:30 hours. The 4 way really showcased the Real Americans and gave Rybaxel some credibility without either winning. I enjoyed the opening segment quite a bit. The only part about Bryan Triple H I can complain about is having two long countout spots. The Shield squashing Kane and the OOA was hilarious and very fitting. The Andre Memorial, while it shouldn't have had a few of those guys anywhere near it, was fantastic in solidifying Cesaro as an upper mid-carder while also giving another great Kofi spot. Cena vs Wyatt's biggest downfall again was having Cena go out there and wrestle instead of brawl in another vengeance based storyline which doesn't put it near the worst WM match ever. Lesnar vs Undertaker was the most anti-climactic of the night as it wasn't good match (but was still better than Taker WM 28 by quite a bit) and it drained all the energy out of everyone. The Divas match was a little better than I thought it would be. The Triple Threat saw Daniel Bryan getting most odds defying WM win ever. With that said, I don't think it is the greatest WM ever, but I do put it up in at least the top five. There is no way in hell I would rank it below 9, 11, 13, 27, or 29 as each of those had literally the worst WM endings ever (aside from 29 which still wasn't more than meh) with maybe one or two good matches on the card. Shield squashing Kane/Outlaws was great. Kayfabe wise how are three guys past their prime suppose to beat three of the best young guys today? We also got a nice Powerbomb spot out of it.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Apr 7, 2014 1:51:07 GMT -5
That isn't the problem, the problem is you are an extremist. You always have some ridiculously strong opinion in one direction or the other. You said you enjoyed at least the Tag Team and Bryan matches. Congratulations, you enjoyed at least 1:30 hours. The 4 way really showcased the Real Americans and gave Rybaxel some credibility without either winning. I enjoyed the opening segment quite a bit. The only part about Bryan Triple H I can complain about is having two long countout spots. The Shield squashing Kane and the OOA was hilarious and very fitting. The Andre Memorial, while it shouldn't have had a few of those guys anywhere near it, was fantastic in solidifying Cesaro as an upper mid-carder while also giving another great Kofi spot. Cena vs Wyatt's biggest downfall again was having Cena go out there and wrestle instead of brawl in another vengeance based storyline which doesn't put it near the worst WM match ever. Lesnar vs Undertaker was the most anti-climactic of the night as it wasn't good match (but was still better than Taker WM 28 by quite a bit) and it drained all the energy out of everyone. The Divas match was a little better than I thought it would be. The Triple Threat saw Daniel Bryan getting most odds defying WM win ever. With that said, I don't think it is the greatest WM ever, but I do put it up in at least the top five. There is no way in hell I would rank it below 9, 11, 13, 27, or 29 as each of those had literally the worst WM endings ever (aside from 29 which still wasn't more than meh) with maybe one or two good matches on the card. Shield squashing Kane/Outlaws was great. Kayfabe wise how are three guys past their prime suppose to beat three of the best young guys today? We also got a nice Powerbomb spot out of it. The only bad thing to come out of that match is Gunn's health.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Apr 7, 2014 1:55:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't go that far. I still would put III in the top 3, but this way a $#!t ton better than 20, or the last 4 straight. It was very good, and the Taker's sacrifice is a part of that as strange as I feel about it right now. All of the matches were really good besides Taker/Lesnar and the squash, and there were some amazing Wrestlemania moments, so no real complaints. Hogan, Austin, and Rock was a magic moment. Piper/Magnum P.O. and Hogan/T was actually pretty funny for someone who lived through all of the heat of the first Wrestlemania. I do think that all of the 'top 3' and 'top 5' talk will subside after the high mellows a bit, but I like it so much better than so many others that it might really be in the top 5 or 10. Too soon to tell.
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Post by Dan on Apr 7, 2014 5:21:32 GMT -5
While the Card wasn't strong and lacked that big A Star Marquee Match (e.g. Taker/Cena, Austin/Cena), it provided everything necessary to make a perfect Show, but to the extreme. It had possibly the greatest 'Moment', in Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock in the same Ring. I doubt that will be topped. It had the emotional journey of Daniel Bryan. It had the celebration of Daniel Bryan. It had good Matches, good Spots, and the most shocking moment in Wrestling history with the Streak ending. All the ingredients for a perfect Show.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Apr 7, 2014 5:25:41 GMT -5
So what's more shocking? MSJ or Brock ending the streak?
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Post by Butchers on Apr 7, 2014 5:27:49 GMT -5
Oh, I see you're still as intolerable as you used to be. My apologies for having an opinion that doesnt agree with everyone else. Well it is what you pride yourself on...
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Post by Brad on Apr 7, 2014 5:46:59 GMT -5
I fully agree. Cena defeating Wyatt knocks it down to about an 8/10 which otherwise would've been a 10/10 show for me. Regardless, 8/10 is still better than 90% of other Manias. But...Steph showed us some skin. That makes it a 10/10
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Post by Brad on Apr 7, 2014 5:50:26 GMT -5
30 was the WORST WM of all time. Outside of DB finally winning and the nostaligic opening segment, this show was awful. Not even close. - An incredible opening match that had been months in the making. - The Shield and Cesaro looking like beasts, especially the latter. - Bray Wyatt, despite losing, looked like a mother ing star against the company's top name on the biggest stage imaginable. - The most shocking moment in WrestleMania history, and to some, wrestling history period. - A very enjoyable main event. To say that this WrestleMania was awful is nonsensical. QFT And the simple fact that he called Cena/Wyatt an awful match makes me question what he's doing on the board. That was some of the best storytelling I've ever seen. What more do you want?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 5:59:03 GMT -5
Not even close. - An incredible opening match that had been months in the making. - The Shield and Cesaro looking like beasts, especially the latter. - Bray Wyatt, despite losing, looked like a mother ing star against the company's top name on the biggest stage imaginable. - The most shocking moment in WrestleMania history, and to some, wrestling history period. - A very enjoyable main event. To say that this WrestleMania was awful is nonsensical. QFT And the simple fact that he called Cena/Wyatt an awful match makes me question what he's doing on the board. That was some of the best storytelling I've ever seen. What more do you want? He wants TNA.
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Post by James on Apr 7, 2014 5:59:12 GMT -5
16, 17, 22, 28 and 30 to me was all great.
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Post by philly boi on Apr 7, 2014 6:36:06 GMT -5
Not even close. - An incredible opening match that had been months in the making. - The Shield and Cesaro looking like beasts, especially the latter. - Bray Wyatt, despite losing, looked like a mother ing star against the company's top name on the biggest stage imaginable. - The most shocking moment in WrestleMania history, and to some, wrestling history period. - A very enjoyable main event. To say that this WrestleMania was awful is nonsensical. QFT And the simple fact that he called Cena/Wyatt an awful match makes me question what he's doing on the board. That was some of the best storytelling I've ever seen. What more do you want? I said it before and I'll say it again, Cena and Bray did a fantastic job. I loved WrestleMania 30 from start to finish. Literally made me feel every emotion possible while watching wrestling, what else do you want?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 7:19:05 GMT -5
I fully agree. Cena defeating Wyatt knocks it down to about an 8/10 which otherwise would've been a 10/10 show for me. Regardless, 8/10 is still better than 90% of other Manias. But...Steph showed us some skin. That makes it a 10/10 Hell yes!
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Apr 7, 2014 7:26:34 GMT -5
30 was the WORST WM of all time. Outside of DB finally winning and the nostaligic opening segment, this show was awful. You need to go back and watch previous WM's if you think 30 was the worse of all time.
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Post by philly boi on Apr 7, 2014 7:27:34 GMT -5
30 was the WORST WM of all time. Outside of DB finally winning and the nostaligic opening segment, this show was awful. You need to go back and watch previous WM's if you think 30 was the worse of all time. He's lost absolutely ALL credibility after a statement like that. Absolutely idiotic.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Apr 7, 2014 7:28:34 GMT -5
Loved WM30.
For me the order is 17,18,20,30.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 7, 2014 7:30:22 GMT -5
I liked it more than I expected to, mostly because I didn't have high hopes coming into it. The card was lackluster to me so it exceeded my low expectations. With that being said, I prefer 19, 17, 24, 28, 21 and 22 to it. It wasn't downright awful or incredibly awesome. The pre-show match was a lot of fun and should've been on the card. Triple H/Daniel Bryan was tremendous. The Shield match was short, but it made them look like beasts. The Battle Royal was more fun than most battle royals I've ever seen with cool spots from Kofi and Cesaro. Cesaro looked outstanding. Cena/Wyatt wasn't a great wrestling match, but it told a very good story and I hope the feud continues. Brock/Undertaker was the worst match of the night as I nearly fell asleep during it. However, it was a shocking moment. The Divas match was also better than I expected. Yes, it was a cluster but the girls got to hit their finishers, the Bellas suicide dive spot was cool and AJ retaining ruled. The Main Event was a throwback to the Attitude Era as it was overbooked, but was decent fun. Overall, I'd give this WrestleMania a 7.5 or 8 out of 10.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Apr 7, 2014 8:23:27 GMT -5
I really don't see why so many people loved this show so much.
The DB/HHH match was decent enough
Shield match was a waste
The Battle Royal was just a standard Battle Royal
Cena/Wyatt was an ok match, marred by Cena's shallow, overacting. "He's picking up the stairs and screaming wildly with an angry look on his face! That means he's thinking about giving in to Wyatt!"
Lesnar/Taker sucked. Not just because Lesnar won, it just wasn't a good match.
Divas.
Then the main event which was awesome.
The crowd was dead the whole night, I've never seen such an awful WM crowd. The commentary was abysmal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 9:16:37 GMT -5
It was a very good show. I'd rate it like this match quality wise:
Bryan/HHH - **** Shield/Authority - ** Andre Battle Royale - **1/2 Cena/Wyatt - *** Brock/Taker - **1/2 Divas - ** Bryan/Orton/Batista - ***
Two three-star matches and one four-star is nothing to sneeze at. Add to that the awesome ending of the battle royale, the shock of the streak ending and the joy of Bryan finally winning and you've got an historic show.
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Post by McBlake on Apr 7, 2014 9:26:22 GMT -5
Seems like the 8 months of bitching were actually worth it in the end. Card could have been stronger, but yeah, easily one of the most memorable Wrestlemania's of all time and up there with the best. What they went with they got right imo, everything. And as much as I disagree with the streak ending, it added so much to the event.
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Post by 0,Y on Apr 7, 2014 9:28:45 GMT -5
I still don't know what to make of this WrestleMania. On the one hand I'm happy for Bryan but on the other hand I'd have liked to see HHH or Batista leaving with the title just to piss everyone off. The ending of the streak was very anticlimatic, nobody seemed to care much for the match and when it was over it felt unfinished to me. This is a sad sad day.
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