WMWanimations
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Post by WMWanimations on Apr 6, 2014 23:14:17 GMT -5
So, heres my theory about why the Undertaker lost to Lesnar. Its simple and short. I don't believe it was all about Brock Lesnar, but rather the ending of the show. I think it was supposed to be a roller coaster, or whatever you want to call it. I think that by having the people at an all time low with their hearts sunk, it made the victory of Daniel Bryan even higher and more special. So by Taker losing and having everybody so sad, he indirectly made Bryan winning even bigger and happier then it already was. Taker indirectly put over Bryan.
But, thats just what I thought of. Would love to see what you guys have thought of. Its a really polarizing subject, about Takers streak and Daniel Bryan's win.
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Post by Triple S on Apr 6, 2014 23:15:08 GMT -5
Even more simple. Taker is done.
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Post by bad guy™ on Apr 6, 2014 23:17:55 GMT -5
Sort of. Tonight was definitely a changing of the guard. Out with the legend, in with the fresh face. But because of the scope of The Streak, Bryan winning may have been part of the "roller coaster" yeah, but the payoff we wanted for almost a year now will be overshadowed forever. Just my thoughts on it.
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Post by facemeat on Apr 6, 2014 23:19:13 GMT -5
Nah, it took a bit away from the last match and Daniel Bryan's moment in my opinion. I mean, how can a fan's heart and mind be fully into the main event when they just haphazardly ended a 20+ year old legacy?
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Post by StingerSplash on Apr 6, 2014 23:19:38 GMT -5
If anything, Taker's loss took away some of the joy of Bryan's win.
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Post by King Silva on Apr 6, 2014 23:20:54 GMT -5
If anything, Taker's loss took away some of the joy of Bryan's win. That is how I feel. It is a bigger story imo. |
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Apr 6, 2014 23:22:36 GMT -5
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Post by Darkhawk on Apr 6, 2014 23:23:26 GMT -5
Nah, it took a bit away from the last match and Daniel Bryan's moment in my opinion. I mean, how can a fan's heart and mind be fully into the main event when they just haphazardly ended a 20+ year old legacy? I just wanted to stop watching, because I just in disbelief and still shocked he lost. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Apr 6, 2014 23:26:26 GMT -5
Nah, it took a bit away from the last match and Daniel Bryan's moment in my opinion. I mean, how can a fan's heart and mind be fully into the main event when they just haphazardly ended a 20+ year old legacy? Haphazardly means he didn't plan to end it, which I believe he did. He has something with his career that no one else ever will. He never NEEDED world titles because a 21 win streak is bigger than that. That's a man who, if dirt sheets are right, go to choose his opponents and do it the way he wanted. It's his end and he deserves to end it the way he wanted. Thank whoever for him, because if this is his end, he's been WWE's rock. If they needed something to make sure they had a solid draw, he was there. I don't think there's a theory behind his own willingness to end it. Your rollercoaster theory plays on for what makes sense the same way with concerts, end on a high note. If that match was to be "bigger" and shown has his end, it would have been on last and everyone would have seen it coming. It needed to end abruptly because the last few years, he could have lost and it would have made sense. As Botchamania put it: Undertaker defeated, Paul Bearer dead...we're all officially adults. |
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Post by WMWanimations on Apr 6, 2014 23:30:35 GMT -5
Nah, it took a bit away from the last match and Daniel Bryan's moment in my opinion. I mean, how can a fan's heart and mind be fully into the main event when they just haphazardly ended a 20+ year old legacy? Haphazardly means he didn't plan to end it, which I believe he did. He has something with his career that no one else ever will. He never NEEDED world titles because a 21 win streak is bigger than that. That's a man who, if dirt sheets are right, go to choose his opponents and do it the way he wanted. It's his end and he deserves to end it the way he wanted. Thank whoever for him, because if this is his end, he's been WWE's rock. If they needed something to make sure they had a solid draw, he was there. I don't think there's a theory behind his own willingness to end it. Your rollercoaster theory plays on for what makes sense the same way with concerts, end on a high note. If that match was to be "bigger" and shown has his end, it would have been on last and everyone would have seen it coming. It needed to end abruptly because the last few years, he could have lost and it would have made sense. As Botchamania put it: Undertaker defeated, Paul Bearer dead...we're all officially adults. Wow. That is probably the best explanation or idea that I have heard. You pretty much just said it all. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 23:31:42 GMT -5
Taker put over Daniel Bryan by losing to Lesnar which, in turn, makes Lesnar the biggest heel in the company and the top contender for Bryan's title.
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Post by Matt on Apr 6, 2014 23:37:04 GMT -5
Let's see how Raw plays out tomorrow.
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Post by jeffro2000 on Apr 6, 2014 23:40:06 GMT -5
Should have been Bryan's night, but this completely overshadows it. 21-1 is the story of this Mania. It was shocking. I just hope WWE gains something from it because they lost something tonight.
I know this may have been UT's idea and if it wasn't he could have vetoed it, but you got to do what is best for the company. I don't see where this was, but I hope something great comes out of it and it possibly can.
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Post by Jaz on Apr 6, 2014 23:41:39 GMT -5
Taker put over Daniel Bryan by losing to Lesnar which, in turn, makes Lesnar the biggest heel in the company and the top contender for Bryan's title. This. |
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Post by Alpha Q Up on Apr 6, 2014 23:44:29 GMT -5
Honestly, my heart wasn't in the Main Event until Stephanie and HHH got involved and it looked like Bryan might lose with Batista grabbing some momentum. The divas match was definitely needed..it took me about 30 minutes to settle down and by the end of the main event, I was where I should be emotionally for Bryans moment (ecstatic).
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Post by facemeat on Apr 6, 2014 23:53:17 GMT -5
Nah, it took a bit away from the last match and Daniel Bryan's moment in my opinion. I mean, how can a fan's heart and mind be fully into the main event when they just haphazardly ended a 20+ year old legacy? Haphazardly means he didn't plan to end it, which I believe he did. He has something with his career that no one else ever will. He never NEEDED world titles because a 21 win streak is bigger than that. That's a man who, if dirt sheets are right, go to choose his opponents and do it the way he wanted. It's his end and he deserves to end it the way he wanted. You're right, he obviously deserves to end it however he wishes, but that certainly doesn't mean I have to think it was a good idea. And to me, ending the streak in a horrible match, that was part of a worthless feud, against a guy who will seemingly gain very little from it, was not a good idea. But, as jeffro2000 said, hopefully something great does come out of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 23:57:38 GMT -5
I think you could look at it that way, you could also look at 'Taker as having put Bryan over in that he made Lesnar look very, very strong, and if he [Lesnar] goes into Extreme Rules and puts over Bryan in a title match, Bryan looks even better than he already would have.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Apr 7, 2014 0:01:38 GMT -5
I guess I didn't view it as useless. Here was Brock Lesnar who believed he was too big to be in the Rumble, deserved a title shot, etc. Then here comes the Undertaker, the proverbial gatekeeper in the WWE. Who better to come out and say "You have to beat me to get what you want". Now Lesnar can, he doesn't even NEED a title because he has one bigger than anyone else, he beat the streak. For Lesnar, as a character, it makes sense to be that guy. I don't like it, but I think it logically makes sense. He's a legitimate athlete, a beast of a man, and more than likely could rip my arm off so quick it would suture close before I noticed it was gone. This is coming from someone who just makes Jimmy John's jokes about him. I think if a younger guy beat him, he may not live up to it. If Cena did it, what would be the point? He's already the guy. Lesnar is the nasty heel who can be a braggart piece of crap about it now.
No one has to like it, but it is what it is.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Apr 7, 2014 0:34:21 GMT -5
I agree that it took some of the luster from D Bry's big moment, even if it was unintentional. It is sort of like a huge favorite suffering a serious injury earlier in the show. A title win doesn't seem to matter as much. The end of the Undertaker (which this is at least the beginning of if he doesn't walk out and say goodbye tomorrow night) is more depressing than D Bry's title win was happy. I'm not complaining, I have just had a very odd feeling since the end of the streak. Not to be overly dramatic, but that was 23 years of history. It was such a surreal ending, and to someone who not only didn't need it, but someone who isn't even a full-timer. I said this in another thread, maybe he's just really had enough.
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Post by The Hitman on Apr 7, 2014 0:42:06 GMT -5
I feel like it took away from Bryans victory. After the match, my friend was so down. I tried to get cheered up, I loved and reacted to Bryan winning, but felt Taker losing just took over the event. Should of never happened. Still in shock. Sami Zayn said it best, the most shocking moment in the WWE, since 1997.
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