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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 5:38:09 GMT -5
There's 3,000 jails in America for a reason. I'd rather someone spend their life suffering and rotting in jail as proof to kids that killing people is wrong than killing him as proof to kids that killing people is wrong. You realize how impressionable young kids can be? They see violence and drug and alcohol use and swearing and disrespectfulness and it gives them the impression that it's ok or it's something they can do, and people telling them that it's wrong while doing it themselves isn't going to effect them, they'll continue to think since they do it, they can too. If they see murdering on TV or a video game or a song or even in real life, and they see that the solution to that was killing the person that did it, how do you think that might leave an impression in their minds? I'm sure it's happened that a murder or death took place because a younger person's solution was violence, because that's what they saw and what they knew. And I'm not saying smoking or stealing are as bad as killing someone or killing someone is on that level. I'm, maybe at a stretch, comparing the situations. We wouldn't show a child that stealing is bad by stealing something from a theft. We wouldn't show them smoking is bad by making a smoker smoke the entire carton, because that would be ridiculous and further promotion the action, right? So why should we show them that killing is bad by killing people? Would spending your entire life alone and rotting and suffering in a bad place like prison not be the better and less impressionable deterrent, instead of a deterrent that promotes further death and violence in a big vicious circle? That's your opinion, that was mine. There you go. Your opinion and then there's mine so no need to judge mine. If you don't want me to judge your opinion, don't judge mine. Oh! Hey! There's another example! |
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Post by James on Apr 26, 2014 5:42:12 GMT -5
There you go. Your opinion and then there's mine so no need to judge mine. If you don't want me to judge your opinion, don't judge mine. Oh! Hey! There's another example! Just doing what you did to me, an eye for an eye huh? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 5:42:28 GMT -5
Okay this is just Fckd up why would you do that!?
This is as nowhere as bad but I decided to record all the fights that happend in my last year of school and there were 23Fights
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Post by Slim on Apr 26, 2014 5:53:24 GMT -5
This world is crazy, awful... Goodbye cruel world!  |
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Post by King Silva on Apr 26, 2014 6:42:29 GMT -5
I read this earlier.
Such a terrible story.
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Post by knupmc on Apr 26, 2014 6:46:57 GMT -5
 stupid bastards like this guy. What the is wrong with him? People these days. RIP  |
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Post by ahunter8056 on Apr 26, 2014 8:19:03 GMT -5
Wow, I'm glad that in the UK Proms aren't taken anywhere near as seriously as it clearly was done in this instance. At my Prom, hardly anyone actually had a date, and of those that did, they were usually going out with each other at the time anyway.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Apr 26, 2014 10:27:30 GMT -5
Well, prom will get banned...
I won't say things are getting worse now a days, but more is being reported.
Hell, people were having sex on the dance floor at my prom. That was 2007. People were spiking drinks and food with Oxy's and Perks at my prom. That was 2007.
But killing a girl over rejection. Come on guy... There's thousands of other girls you would have come in contact with through out your life, and your going to kill the first one that crapyou down? I expect therapy for wach kid in Conneticut now... No prom. Metal detectors. Armed security. Definatly not the place for kids as of late.
Somethong needs to be done. This generation has a no-holding-back mentality. Hell, look at the knockout game.. Hahaha i brought two kids in the world, and I'm scared for them!
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Post by slappy on Apr 26, 2014 12:31:56 GMT -5
That makes sense. Trying to make the world less violent by giving a violent punishment. You didn't read it right clearly, I said I've had enough. I didn't say anything about completely stamping it out did I? And I think you misread what I said. Where did I say anything about you saying "completely stamping it out"? I said 'less violent' not 'no violence'. I'll spare you the eye for an eye quote but it's ridiculous. If the death penalty doesn't deter killing then how would other eye for an eye punishments deter anything? They wouldn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 12:38:09 GMT -5
You didn't read it right clearly, I said I've had enough. I didn't say anything about completely stamping it out did I? And I think you misread what I said. Where did I say anything about you saying "completely stamping it out"? I said 'less violent' not 'no violence'. I'll spare you the eye for an eye quote but it's ridiculous. If the death penalty doesn't deter killing then how would other eye for an eye punishments deter anything? They wouldn't. They would deter eyes. |
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Post by James on Apr 26, 2014 12:51:29 GMT -5
You didn't read it right clearly, I said I've had enough. I didn't say anything about completely stamping it out did I? And I think you misread what I said. Where did I say anything about you saying "completely stamping it out"? I said 'less violent' not 'no violence'. I'll spare you the eye for an eye quote but it's ridiculous. If the death penalty doesn't deter killing then how would other eye for an eye punishments deter anything? They wouldn't. Making it less violent?, I never said anything about that. That what I was saying. Just read what anvil said, as he pretty much summed it up for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 12:55:10 GMT -5
And I think you misread what I said. Where did I say anything about you saying "completely stamping it out"? I said 'less violent' not 'no violence'. I'll spare you the eye for an eye quote but it's ridiculous. If the death penalty doesn't deter killing then how would other eye for an eye punishments deter anything? They wouldn't. Making it less violent?, I never said anything about that. That what I was saying. Just read what anvil said, as he pretty much summed it up for me. So essentially you want vengeance? |
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Post by slappy on Apr 26, 2014 12:55:19 GMT -5
And I think you misread what I said. Where did I say anything about you saying "completely stamping it out"? I said 'less violent' not 'no violence'. I'll spare you the eye for an eye quote but it's ridiculous. If the death penalty doesn't deter killing then how would other eye for an eye punishments deter anything? They wouldn't. Making it less violent?, I never said anything about that. That what I was saying. Just read what anvil said, as he pretty much summed it up for me. So you are sick of the violence but don't want less violence? What? And no, eye for an eye doesn't work. If the death penalty doesn't deter murders then how will other eye for an eye punishments deter criminals? |
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Post by James on Apr 26, 2014 13:02:14 GMT -5
Making it less violent?, I never said anything about that. That what I was saying. Just read what anvil said, as he pretty much summed it up for me. So you are sick of the violence but don't want less violence? What? And no, eye for an eye doesn't work. If the death penalty doesn't deter murders then how will other eye for an eye punishments deter criminals? I'm sick of CRIME. Did I say overall violence in life like video games, TV programmes?. It will deter people over here. It's cool, you don't have to agree with my opinion. As it's mine not yours. Death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye as with capital punishment, it may be viewed different for you as you live in a country that has capital punishment. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 13:05:44 GMT -5
So you are sick of the violence but don't want less violence? What? And no, eye for an eye doesn't work. If the death penalty doesn't deter murders then how will other eye for an eye punishments deter criminals? I'm sick of CRIME. Did I say overall violence in life like video games, TV programmes?. It will deter people over here. It's cool, you don't have to agree with my opinion. As it's mine not yours. Death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye as with capital punishment, it may be viewed different for you as you live in a country that has capital punishment. I can't speak for anywhere but the US, but over here, the death penalty does not do anything. |
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Post by James on Apr 26, 2014 13:06:56 GMT -5
I'm sick of CRIME. Did I say overall violence in life like video games, TV programmes?. It will deter people over here. It's cool, you don't have to agree with my opinion. As it's mine not yours. Death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye as with capital punishment, it may be viewed different for you as you live in a country that has capital punishment. I can't speak for anywhere but the US, but over here, the death penalty does not do anything. That's what I'm saying, where me and anvil live in the UK, we know it will deter people completely. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 26, 2014 13:08:57 GMT -5
So you are sick of the violence but don't want less violence? What? And no, eye for an eye doesn't work. If the death penalty doesn't deter murders then how will other eye for an eye punishments deter criminals? I'm sick of CRIME. Did I say overall violence in life like video games, TV programmes?. It will deter people over here. It's cool, you don't have to agree with my opinion. As it's mine not yours. Death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye as with capital punishment, it may be viewed different for you as you live in a country that has capital punishment. I was talking about violent crime. That was the whole point of the discussion. Ugh, I hate the whole "it's my opinion" cop out. If you don't want to talk about "your opinion" then don't post. Don't be shocked when people challenge "your opinion." I know the death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye. And it doesn't work. It's barbaric, cruel, not a deterrent, expensive and unnecessary. What makes you think the death penalty will work wherever you live? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 13:13:03 GMT -5
I'm sick of CRIME. Did I say overall violence in life like video games, TV programmes?. It will deter people over here. It's cool, you don't have to agree with my opinion. As it's mine not yours. Death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye as with capital punishment, it may be viewed different for you as you live in a country that has capital punishment. I was talking about violent crime. That was the whole point of the discussion. Ugh, I hate the whole "it's my opinion" cop out. If you don't want to talk about "your opinion" then don't post. Don't be shocked when people challenge "your opinion." I know the death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye. And it doesn't work. It's barbaric, cruel, not a deterrent, expensive and unnecessary. What makes you think the death penalty will work wherever you live? I'd also want to add it punishes the wrongfully accused to a point where they can't get justice (things like DNA testing have proven quite a few were wrongfully sentenced to death), but it also punishes the family members of the criminal. It also undermines the entire idea of the justice system, since the point is that rehabilitation is possible. If it weren't, everyone who committed any sort of crime might as well be killed off. Not only would crime be lower, but it'd also solve my issue with trying to find a decent parking space. |
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Post by James on Apr 26, 2014 13:19:24 GMT -5
I'm sick of CRIME. Did I say overall violence in life like video games, TV programmes?. It will deter people over here. It's cool, you don't have to agree with my opinion. As it's mine not yours. Death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye as with capital punishment, it may be viewed different for you as you live in a country that has capital punishment. I was talking about violent crime. That was the whole point of the discussion. Ugh, I hate the whole "it's my opinion" cop out. If you don't want to talk about "your opinion" then don't post. Don't be shocked when people challenge "your opinion." I know the death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye. And it doesn't work. It's barbaric, cruel, not a deterrent, expensive and unnecessary. What makes you think the death penalty will work wherever you live? That's the rule of an opinion, I can post it anywhere I damn well want. You can't say it won't work in my country over here in England. You don't live here. Our country has a system where criminals are scared of by law enforcement and ongoing operations and ways to deter criminals are in small numbers. When we had capital punishment/death penalty, it reduced numbers. It will also add greater protection to the public as especially here, we need something like that for our ongoing terrorism issues, murder etc. Talk to another UK member. You can't have a rational discussion any more on this forum can you? |
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Post by James on Apr 26, 2014 13:21:28 GMT -5
I was talking about violent crime. That was the whole point of the discussion. Ugh, I hate the whole "it's my opinion" cop out. If you don't want to talk about "your opinion" then don't post. Don't be shocked when people challenge "your opinion." I know the death penalty is the same as an eye for an eye. And it doesn't work. It's barbaric, cruel, not a deterrent, expensive and unnecessary. What makes you think the death penalty will work wherever you live? I'd also want to add it punishes the wrongfully accused to a point where they can't get justice (things like DNA testing have proven quite a few were wrongfully sentenced to death), but it also punishes the family members of the criminal. It also undermines the entire idea of the justice system, since the point is that rehabilitation is possible. If it weren't, everyone who committed any sort of crime might as well be killed off. Not only would crime be lower, but it'd also solve my issue with trying to find a decent parking space. Rehabilitation can't bring back murdered family members. Why keep them locked up for years and years when they can be put out of misery as most are sadistic individuals with problems of their own kind. |
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