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Post by Dex on Mar 29, 2016 9:05:06 GMT -5
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Post by LtD73 on Mar 29, 2016 15:19:25 GMT -5
Anyone else hearing someone/something say Lex Luthors name about 5 seconds in?
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Post by Mark Martin on Mar 29, 2016 15:38:26 GMT -5
I wish there was a "All of the Above" option. I'm super excited for them to build this world.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 29, 2016 16:37:21 GMT -5
Comic book.com is reporting that BvS has had the biggest opening Friday-Monday drop off in comic book movie history, passing Fox's latest FF movie. Yeah Sunady was Easter and this week kids are off school but it'll be interesting to see how it does in the coming weeks. Not much competition until Jungle Book in 2 weeks.
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Post by Word™ on Mar 29, 2016 22:30:36 GMT -5
I've been patiently waiting for this.. Kevin Smith's review of BvS.. Hands down one of the biggest Batman/DC comics fan, and one of the largest and most vocal supporters of the DC movie-verse and Ben Affleck as Batman.
I've watched this entire review and even HE has trouble trying to like it.. Kevin's doing everything in his power to find silver linings in the movie, and he makes good points.. But he looks exhausted as he tries to make sense of it. He is really, really, really trying to find reasons to love this movie.. But he struggles to do so. He's carrying the attitude of "it is what it is".
When you have Kevin Smith questioning your Batman v Superman movie.. Something is wrong with your Batman v Superman movie.
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A more compact review of his..
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 29, 2016 23:02:27 GMT -5
Comic book.com is reporting that BvS has had the biggest opening Friday-Monday drop off in comic book movie history, passing Fox's latest FF movie. Yeah Sunady was Easter and this week kids are off school but it'll be interesting to see how it does in the coming weeks. Not much competition until Jungle Book in 2 weeks. Worth noting BVS also had a top five worldwide opening ever and that yesterday (Monday) was the single biggest Monday box office gross March has ever seen. That drop off doesn't mean as much with really big opening weekends.
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Post by Suckasays on Mar 30, 2016 13:12:57 GMT -5
Batman v Superman was better (to me) than most critics said it was. It was not without it's problems. Mainly, Jesse Eisenberg felt more Riddler than Luthor and I left still not knowing what his beef was. The only other problem was that it tried to cram in way too much world building in one movie. There was no real reason for Wonder Woman to be in this movie...other than to have another character. All things considered it was ambitious and while some of those ambitions missed the mark, I was entertained. The most amusing part is how riled up everyone got over Affleck's casting and his Batman ended up being really good and likely the best part of the movie. I'm looking forward to seeing where they go from here and hopefully they learn to concentrate on the movie they're making as opposed to spending so much time setting up the sequels. That was the biggest problem Marvel had with Age of Ultron. It dragged that movie down a bit and DC did the same with Batman v Superman. Regardless, it entertained and I wasn't sitting there just waiting for it to end.
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Post by LtD73 on Mar 30, 2016 14:52:47 GMT -5
Latest BvS news, its now made over $500 million and Ben Affleck is currently only contracted for the 2 Justice League movies but he has wrote a Batman script
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Post by ricflair4ever on Mar 30, 2016 15:00:24 GMT -5
Latest BvS news, its now made over $500 million and Ben Affleck is currently only contracted for the 2 Justice League movies but he has wrote a Batman script Yeah i saw the box office tally seems to be alievating any fears that critical response will hurt the franchise going forward. As for Affleck's Batman, he has been a bit low key concerning its future outside of the JL films. He's been kindy dodgy when the question of solo movies have been brought up. I think its all but a lock that he does at least one stand alone, even if he's not commited to it legally. Its just a question of whether its something tht will fit into the bigger DCEU picture, or if its something that may have to wait until all the universe building is done with post JL2. I know I wanna see this Batman tangle directly with some of his rouges in their own Gotham heavy flick.
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Post by Starscream on Mar 30, 2016 15:36:41 GMT -5
Hopefully he adapted Under the Red Hood. For me that is the best way to go, at the end of BvS Bruce now knows "men are still good" and by not branding Lex we can assume he will operate as a non killing Batman again. We know there is a dead Robin and with Jason`s way of dealing with criminals it can mirror the way Bruce felt at the start of BvS, "the rage that turn men cruel". It would be a more interesting conflict with Joker there too, like the comic and animated film Jason just has to ask "I know you killed before...but why not him?! Why don`t you kill him?". A little of Nightwing wouln`t hurt anyone either.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Mar 31, 2016 10:08:07 GMT -5
I enjoyed it but I'm not sure I would describe it as a good film. All the actors were fine/good in their roles as far as I'm concerned, no complaints there.
But the writing was just appalling IMO. I'm not a big comic fan by any means, but I enjoy the films. But so much here didn't make sense - not in a 'oh that's weird but there will be a cool explanation for it like Flash talking to Batman in his dream but straight up doesn't work like Batman can use a smoke grenade to disappear without Superman hearing his footsteps yet Superman can hear Lois banging on the rock in another city? And one minute Superman coming into any contact with kryptonite removes his powers, but the next he can fly between cities holding a spear that Batman says is pure kryptonite? I thought that the ending was dragged out a bit - it felt like Return of the King with 5 or 6 'final shot' scenes. Also, 1 dream sequence is fine, but 3 in 1 movie is way too much. Oh, and whilst I appreciate they acknowledged the destruction in MOS (which I'm guessing in an ideal world they wanted to ignore), the lengths they went to in order to hammer home that no civilians were around during the climactic battle were hilarious.
I'm rooting for them to do better, but I don't believe Snyder will be able to get the DC movies up to the required standard.
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Post by LtD73 on Mar 31, 2016 15:04:54 GMT -5
Reshoots are currently taking places for Suicide Squad to add more jokes and change the tone of the movie.
The Bohemian Rhapsody trailer apparently had all the jokes of the movie in the trailer, but as it was so well received they are now reshooting to add more jokes and lighten the tone of the movie
They do have a point. Out of the 2 trailers I've seen, I would much rather see the lighter, Bohemian rhapsody version than the more dark original trailer version
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 19:34:20 GMT -5
Reshoots are currently taking places for Suicide Squad to add more jokes and change the tone of the movie. The Bohemian Rhapsody trailer apparently had all the jokes of the movie in the trailer, but as it was so well received they are now reshooting to add more jokes and lighten the tone of the movie They do have a point. Out of the 2 trailers I've seen, I would much rather see the lighter, Bohemian rhapsody version than the more dark original trailer version I watch that second trailer at least once or twice a month now. They couldn't have picked a better song and the edits were top-notch .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 1:30:27 GMT -5
Reshoots are currently taking places for Suicide Squad to add more jokes and change the tone of the movie. The Bohemian Rhapsody trailer apparently had all the jokes of the movie in the trailer, but as it was so well received they are now reshooting to add more jokes and lighten the tone of the movie They do have a point. Out of the 2 trailers I've seen, I would much rather see the lighter, Bohemian rhapsody version than the more dark original trailer version Very interesting. Perhaps also a response to BVS perceived as too dark?
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Post by ricflair4ever on Apr 1, 2016 14:59:53 GMT -5
Reshoots are currently taking places for Suicide Squad to add more jokes and change the tone of the movie. The Bohemian Rhapsody trailer apparently had all the jokes of the movie in the trailer, but as it was so well received they are now reshooting to add more jokes and lighten the tone of the movie They do have a point. Out of the 2 trailers I've seen, I would much rather see the lighter, Bohemian rhapsody version than the more dark original trailer version Very interesting. Perhaps also a response to BVS perceived as too dark? Almost definitely a response to that. Although i like DC films having a totally different feel than Marvel (not a marvel hater either, i just like the idea of different styles much like WWF / WCW back in the day) , i do think BvS had some gravitas to it that didn't necessarily have to try to shoe horn humor into it. Whereas Suicide Squad, by the nature of the teams variety of personalities, should have some comedic moments. Not for pandering to any certain audience, but just because it fits properly in the scope of this one moreso than Supes and Bats colliding. That idea also carries over to Justice League as well. A roster of totally different team mates learning to function as a unit should lead to some off the cuff humor. As long as when they are supposed to get really serious, they actually do so, then all will be well.
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Post by johnnyb on Apr 1, 2016 16:20:21 GMT -5
Reshoots are totally normal. I don't believe for a minute they are shoehorning in jokes.
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Post by JTG on Apr 2, 2016 9:55:40 GMT -5
So it's been a week since this movie dropped and I've waited to weigh in on it because this film is creating such a crazy response from people. It's unlike any superhero movie I've ever seen and it's not a perfect movie as many have pointed out. It's worth pointing out that I've always been a DC guy, in particular Batman so needless to say I've been looking forward to this movie for a long time. I've since seen this movie twice (opening day and this past Thursday).
On my first viewing I was trying to take everything in. As I mentioned, this movie is very unique and I've never seen anything quite like. The movie itself went by very quickly on this viewing, but easy enough to follow. Actually I applaud the lack of hand holding this movie has on the audience although I'd imagine the casual movie goer had more than a few WTF moments because of this. At it's core, this movie was DC's way of setting up the Justice League and I think that's one of it's biggest faults. It fits a lot of cameos and sequences into this film to set this up. In my opinion the movie would have been better if it solely focused on Batman and Superman's conflict. This might even mean removing Wonder Woman from the film, despite Gal Gadot being impressive in the role during her small amount of screen time. Even so, I thought the movie took some incredible risks and as a comic book fan I truly did enjoy the movie and see the DCEU shape up.
Ben Affleck really killed it at Batman, although at first I was put off by this Batman's methods and his habit of killing (directly or indirectly). Henry Cavil once again impressed me as Superman, but if fans were upset with his mopey behaviour in Man of Steel, BvS definitely doesn't try to correct that. I've always been okay with it as under the circumstances of this movie I don't think Superman should be all bright and happy. I really enjoyed seeing Clark as a reporter at the Planet and his interactions with Lois. I was never fully onboard with Amy Adams as Lois Lane until I saw this and thought she was great in the role.
Upon my second viewing my perspective of Batman's characterization changed. Firstly, I went in without the crazy expectations I had the first time around. It dawned on me that this Batman has been put through the ringer. He's lost all hope and is essentially broken. He's lost a sidekick and his efforts to fight crime seemingly mean nothing as there's always new criminals popping up. This perspective allowed me to forgive his brutal behaviour because this Batman was literally teetering the lines between hero and villain. As a Batman fan I appreciated this fresh approach despite some people understandably being against it. I'm hoping that we get a more traditional Batman who dials back on the killing. I got the vibe that he's been reformed by the end of the film.
All in all I'm happy this movie exists as it accomplished what I believe the studio wanted from day one - to fast track a setup for the DCEU. This movie primes the Justice League accordingly and I'm very excited to see what those two movies are like. I'm even more excited to see Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman as standalone movies that seemingly don't need to accommodate the Justice League film. I've read the reports that WB has ordered reshoots on Suicide Squad to make it lighter. That to me is the wrong approach. DC shouldn't have to match the tone of Marvel movies. I crave variety for these properties and should have certain tones based on the content. A Flash movie should not feel like BvS, and Suicide Squad should certainly not feel like Ant-Man. Anyhow, the groundwork has been set.
One last note - I'm actually very much looking forward to the director's cut of this movie. I feel as though there are scenes that were cut that would have added some more context into these character's motivations and plot points (i.e., the deleted scene with Lex in the ship).
8/10 - Some might find that high, but I have so much respect for the risks taken in BvS. It was an uphill battle for DC/WB to sell this concept and play catchup to Marvel and while I understand that a lot of people hate this movie, I'm happy enough with how it turned out. It's exactly the type of movie that they wanted to make to set up this universe. I take it for what it is, not for what I wanted it to be.
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Post by johnnyb on Apr 2, 2016 22:44:18 GMT -5
Sweet Jesus! Second weekend is looking at as high as an 82% drop. That is staggering.
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Post by Nivro™ on Apr 2, 2016 23:04:01 GMT -5
Sweet Jesus! Second weekend is looking at as high as an 82% drop. That is staggering. That's failure on Green Lantern proportions....If I read the article correctly 30% of 2nd weekend sales were repeat viewers as well.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Apr 3, 2016 3:39:42 GMT -5
I saw it again this past Friday, and I have to say I loved it as much as I did on the first viewing! Affleck is born to be Batman, he's perfect, and personally I like my Batman a little crazy, more violent but then again I grew up on the Keaton Batman and always preferred that dark and tortured approach. But even though this Batman is supposed to be 20 years in, he has the characteristics of the Batman from 1939, where he was brutal, just a guy out there doing what had to be done.
Also the whole gun thing, people do realise that thats taking part in (a) a possible future that seems to be a "what if" Superman were to be taken over by Darksied, and (b) a Batman at the end of all hope, its no longer a world where he can capture criminals or brand them, hell where is he gonna put them?! The dream sequences really intrigue me for the future of the DCEU, Im not excited for SS though, I will only go see for Batman, and Wonder Woman Im still on the edge for, but again will go just for Batman I think.
Oh yeah, can we speak about that damn score?!!
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