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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Mar 28, 2016 10:55:46 GMT -5
^ That's one of the first comments I've seen that didn't like Irons. Most reviews liked him and I thought he was the best live action Alfred we've gotten yet. I couldn't stand Michael Caine or his British humor. I never bought him as someone who assisted Bruce with his gadgets and crime fighting. Irons played his part well, but he just didn't have the look of Alfred to me. He seemed a bit too young, especially for what was supposed to be an older Bruce. I'm not sure why everyone hates the Nolanverse all of a sudden. At the time, people said nothing but good things about it and now that this has come out, people are treating the Nolanverse like it was Batman and Robin. A little harsh IMO. I've never liked the Nolan films, they spawned this subculture of "fans" that thought they knew everything about Batman and all his mythos because they had seen TDK, and any deviation from what Nolan/Bale/Ledger ect did was wrong. The same thing happened to Burton's films though; they were praised for 15 years (as they should have been btw) but once Nolan started they gradually lost fans and suddenly became campy in the eyes of this subculture.
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 28, 2016 10:56:28 GMT -5
...I haven't seen people suddenly hating on the Nolan-verse Batman(?). Some fans have said that Dawn Of Justice is their favourite screen Batman, which is fair... it doesn't mean they hate the Nolan (or Burton) Batman though. Irons played his part well, but he just didn't have the look of Alfred to me. He seemed a bit too young, especially for what was supposed to be an older Bruce. I'm not sure why everyone hates the Nolanverse all of a sudden. At the time, people said nothing but good things about it and now that this has come out, people are treating the Nolanverse like it was Batman and Robin. A little harsh IMO. Rises was meh, but Begins and TDK are ten times better than this movie for me anyways. Begins is my favorite Batman movieYeah, it often gets overlooked because of the hype from the sequels, but Begins is my favourite from the Dark Knight trilogy too.
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Post by PJ on Mar 28, 2016 11:18:45 GMT -5
I love the Lego Batman movies. (And the games) And today I picked up the Digital copy preorder from Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice. I will still pick up the Blu Ray combo when it hits. I will grab the one with the best exclusive offer.
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Post by LtD73 on Mar 28, 2016 12:49:35 GMT -5
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 28, 2016 12:54:16 GMT -5
...I haven't seen people suddenly hating on the Nolan-verse Batman(?). Some fans have said that Dawn Of Justice is their favourite screen Batman, which is fair... it doesn't mean they hate the Nolan (or Burton) Batman though. Rises was meh, but Begins and TDK are ten times better than this movie for me anyways. Begins is my favorite Batman movieYeah, it often gets overlooked because of the hype from the sequels, but Begins is my favourite from the Dark Knight trilogy too. This is me. The Dark Knight is far and away my favorite Batman film, one of my very favorite films of all time for that matter, and I don't think BvS even came close to touching it. That being said, Affleck's incarnation of Batman has been my very favorite to-date. As much as a I like Bale as an actor, I've always thought he was missing something as Batman, which I've said over-and-over again. I actually think the hate for Rises has grown immensely since it actually came out. I remember mostly positive perception of the film on the internet, and now I feel it gets mostly hated on. It's my least favorite of the 3 films, but the trilogy as a whole was great start to finish imo. I take a lot of the Nolanverse hate as people who didn't like those films finally getting a chance to be vocal over them, as most of us have moved on to arguing about the current situation. I don't know why it matters. I think Bernthal is the best version of the Punisher we've ever seen but I still love the Tom Jane film. I guess it's just another shining example of how fickle society can be with an opinion. I'm actually really looking forward to how BvS is viewed 10 years from now. I think it'll be extremely comical to read the reviews at that point. Audiences would have been totally lost with that scene imo.
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Post by Mark Martin on Mar 28, 2016 13:21:30 GMT -5
Agreed, I thought that was a pretty cool 44 seconds.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 28, 2016 13:50:11 GMT -5
Begins is my favorite Batman film. Does the best job IMO of blending the fantastical comic elements with the more real-world take Nolan was going for. TDK is a good film but I feel Nolan took most of the comic elements out of it and it just wasn't as fun as Begins. I hated TDKR.
I love the Burton films and feel Returns holds up great. Yeah they were more of Burton's take on Batman but fun movies. I did enjoy Batman Forever even with the lighter tone and horrible Two-Face. I enjoy Batman and Robin simply for how bad and cheesy it is.
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Post by Supreme Cross on Mar 28, 2016 13:59:39 GMT -5
i saw Batman vs Superman last night and enjoyed it alot. i didnt see why so many people gave it bad reviews. i thought the whole plot and everything was good
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Post by Manning Of Steel on Mar 28, 2016 14:51:25 GMT -5
I guess I'm in the minority of everyone else. I absolutely loved TDKR and thought Begins for forgettable. I know Nolan's original plan was to bring back Heath Ledger for TDKR, but considering what happened and what Nolan had to work with, I thought Tom Hardy as Bane was awesome and it was a great conclusion to that story. Begins for me was very dry and just didn't entertain me. With that being said, I 100% agree with the general consensus that Affleck was the best Batman.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Mar 28, 2016 15:58:04 GMT -5
Considering how most people were thrown off by some of the other guest cameos in the movie, this one definitely would have left them confused. I see people are claiming its supposed to be Luthor contacting Steppenwolf. I am well versed in DC and the New Gods especially......and if thats Steppenwolf, i never would have guessed it. And if its Darkseid. ..........well i just hope that isn't Darkseid. Lol.........i do see where the idea of it leaving audiences wondering what was going on could be a good idea. But with so many people claiming to be lost with the movie as is, I'd say they made the right call to cut it out for now.
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 28, 2016 16:21:39 GMT -5
Saw BvS yesterday. I have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a comic book movie this day and age, but I was able to sit through this and enjoy it for the first hour and a half or so. I really don't understand the grief. I found it pretty easy to follow, fairly managed in telling a story (which is what the Nolan movies tend to miss out on) and it didn't get ultra comic-booky for me until that final act, but I knew that was inevitable.
It was definitely kind of drab and humorless at times, but I enjoyed Affleck, enjoyed Eisenberg, even enjoyed Gadot when she wasn't quite Wonder Woman yet. I don't have much to say about Cavill (I didn't see Man of Steel) other than that he basically is just a male model on screen. Too bad Brandon Routh didn't work out here. That would've been a fun dynamic.
I would sit through this 100 times (ok, maybe like 10 times) over before I sit through another Marvel movie. (I take that back, I'll probably sit through Civil War because I was a fan of that comic arch, but other than that I avoid them like the plague.)
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Post by Mark Martin on Mar 28, 2016 16:37:10 GMT -5
Considering how most people were thrown off by some of the other guest cameos in the movie, this one definitely would have left them confused. I see people are claiming its supposed to be Luthor contacting Steppenwolf. I am well versed in DC and the New Gods especially......and if thats Steppenwolf, i never would have guessed it. And if its Darkseid. ..........well i just hope that isn't Darkseid. Lol.........i do see where the idea of it leaving audiences wondering what was going on could be a good idea. But with so many people claiming to be lost with the movie as is, I'd say they made the right call to cut it out for now. Yuga Khan makes sense just from looks alone but maybe they overhauled Darkseid a bit cause they were concerned he'd look too much like Thanos or something. I hope not but you never know.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Mar 28, 2016 17:34:23 GMT -5
Considering how most people were thrown off by some of the other guest cameos in the movie, this one definitely would have left them confused. I see people are claiming its supposed to be Luthor contacting Steppenwolf. I am well versed in DC and the New Gods especially......and if thats Steppenwolf, i never would have guessed it. And if its Darkseid. ..........well i just hope that isn't Darkseid. Lol.........i do see where the idea of it leaving audiences wondering what was going on could be a good idea. But with so many people claiming to be lost with the movie as is, I'd say they made the right call to cut it out for now. Yuga Khan makes sense just from looks alone but maybe they overhauled Darkseid a bit cause they were concerned he'd look too much like Thanos or something. I hope not but you never know. Yuga Kahn is the closest thing ,physically, to that look. And, from a chronological stance, it would make some sense for him to be a sort of precursor to Darkseid. Obviously too early to tell, but its the best option. Aesthetically, that design looks nothing like either Steppenwolf or Darkseid, so lets hope for Kahn here. Lol
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Post by Mark Martin on Mar 28, 2016 17:45:37 GMT -5
Yuga Khan makes sense just from looks alone but maybe they overhauled Darkseid a bit cause they were concerned he'd look too much like Thanos or something. I hope not but you never know. Yuga Kahn is the closest thing ,physically, to that look. And, from a chronological stance, it would make some sense for him to be a sort of precursor to Darkseid. Obviously too early to tell, but its the best option. Aesthetically, that design looks nothing like either Steppenwolf or Darkseid, so lets hope for Kahn here. Lol Yeah I was surprised at how many people were certain that it's Steppenwolf.
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 28, 2016 19:04:17 GMT -5
I was gonna write out a whole big thing but I really dont feel like getting into it. The movie is very up & down. When it comes to the fighting/action scenes the movie is fantastic. When its the casual banter back and forth between Superman-Lois, Batman-Alfred the movie just kinda slowly drags. I almost wish this movie would have just been Man of Steel 2 with cameos from Affleck & Gadot.
The movie just feels "rushed" like they had to throw a lot of crap into a little space so they could get to work on Justice League. While Im not a huge fan of the Marvel movies (I havent seen quite a few of them) I really think they did it right by putting out movies telling the characters stories before bringing them together. With Man of Steel being in 2013, I would have done Affleck Batman solo movie and Wonder Woman this year and then Suicide Squad & Dawn of Justice next year. Then in 2018 done Flash & Aquaman and in 2019 went into the Green Lantern & Justice League.
If I was going to give it a rating I would give it a 8/10. It has/had potential but it just wasnt there completely. As I said it feels rushed so to get to the Justice League so Im hoping that the Justice League movies will be a lot better written & developed.
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Post by PJ on Mar 28, 2016 19:05:53 GMT -5
While I am not familiar with the character as I only ever read of him in Kingdom Come years ago the creature in the deleted scene reminded me of Magog. Not going to say it is him, but that is who it reminded me of.
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Post by Word™ on Mar 28, 2016 20:15:00 GMT -5
Saw BvS yesterday. I have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a comic book movie this day and age, but I was able to sit through this and enjoy it for the first hour and a half or so. I really don't understand the grief. I found it pretty easy to follow, fairly managed in telling a story (which is what the Nolan movies tend to miss out on) and it didn't get ultra comic-booky for me until that final act, but I knew that was inevitable. It was definitely kind of drab and humorless at times, but I enjoyed Affleck, enjoyed Eisenberg, even enjoyed Gadot when she wasn't quite Wonder Woman yet. I don't have much to say about Cavill (I didn't see Man of Steel) other than that he basically is just a male model on screen. Too bad Brandon Routh didn't work out here. That would've been a fun dynamic. I would sit through this 100 times (ok, maybe like 10 times) over before I sit through another Marvel movie. (I take that back, I'll probably sit through Civil War because I was a fan of that comic arch, but other than that I avoid them like the plague.) Wait a sec.. Are you saying that Nolan's Batman movies did not manage to tell a story? And that BvS did a better job at telling a story?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 20:25:22 GMT -5
Saw BvS yesterday. I have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a comic book movie this day and age, but I was able to sit through this and enjoy it for the first hour and a half or so. I really don't understand the grief. I found it pretty easy to follow, fairly managed in telling a story (which is what the Nolan movies tend to miss out on) and it didn't get ultra comic-booky for me until that final act, but I knew that was inevitable. It was definitely kind of drab and humorless at times, but I enjoyed Affleck, enjoyed Eisenberg, even enjoyed Gadot when she wasn't quite Wonder Woman yet. I don't have much to say about Cavill (I didn't see Man of Steel) other than that he basically is just a male model on screen. Too bad Brandon Routh didn't work out here. That would've been a fun dynamic. I would sit through this 100 times (ok, maybe like 10 times) over before I sit through another Marvel movie. (I take that back, I'll probably sit through Civil War because I was a fan of that comic arch, but other than that I avoid them like the plague.) Roman Reigns this man!
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Post by LtD73 on Mar 29, 2016 4:06:23 GMT -5
Changed the thread title because no one talks about the TV shows here and added a poll with the current announced movies and The Batman
Just getting the movie list from Wikipedia
Theres been 2 movies in this universe so far, their budgets came to $475 million and they've currently made $1,092,145,518 at the box office..... I don't think DC and Warner Bros have anything to worry about
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Post by RSCTom on Mar 29, 2016 8:26:34 GMT -5
Saw BvS yesterday. I have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a comic book movie this day and age, but I was able to sit through this and enjoy it for the first hour and a half or so. I really don't understand the grief. I found it pretty easy to follow, fairly managed in telling a story (which is what the Nolan movies tend to miss out on) and it didn't get ultra comic-booky for me until that final act, but I knew that was inevitable. It was definitely kind of drab and humorless at times, but I enjoyed Affleck, enjoyed Eisenberg, even enjoyed Gadot when she wasn't quite Wonder Woman yet. I don't have much to say about Cavill (I didn't see Man of Steel) other than that he basically is just a male model on screen. Too bad Brandon Routh didn't work out here. That would've been a fun dynamic. I would sit through this 100 times (ok, maybe like 10 times) over before I sit through another Marvel movie. (I take that back, I'll probably sit through Civil War because I was a fan of that comic arch, but other than that I avoid them like the plague.) Wait a sec.. Are you saying that Nolan's Batman movies did not manage to tell a story? And that BvS did a better job at telling a story? I think they were always a little erratic, for sure, at least Dark Knight. I don't really remember Rises much because that's the extreme example of 'what is going on', don't care for Begins. Don't get me wrong, I love Dark Knight and will always enjoy watching it, but I have never felt like any of them really do narrative wonders.
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