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Post by IRS on May 18, 2016 15:29:59 GMT -5
I can't be the only wondering why it's not a full-fledged Teen Titans movie, right? I actually hadn't even thought of a Teen Titans movie, but that would be smarter. That would also involve them introducing characters that aren't main-stage Justice Leaguers and that ain't happenin' maggle... I don't love it, MAGGLE! But seriously, I'd punt a baby for live-action Starfire and Raven. I'm pissed that TNT Teen Titans series got scrapped recently.
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Post by TheLastDude on May 18, 2016 16:35:10 GMT -5
I actually hadn't even thought of a Teen Titans movie, but that would be smarter. That would also involve them introducing characters that aren't main-stage Justice Leaguers and that ain't happenin' maggle... I don't love it, MAGGLE! But seriously, I'd punt a baby for live-action Starfire and Raven. I'm pissed that TNT Teen Titans series got scrapped recently. Ooooh...that's a good point, I'd love to see that. Now...Adelaide Kane, Aubrey Plaza, or Rachel Roth for Raven?
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Post by IRS on May 18, 2016 16:49:38 GMT -5
I don't love it, MAGGLE! But seriously, I'd punt a baby for live-action Starfire and Raven. I'm pissed that TNT Teen Titans series got scrapped recently. Ooooh...that's a good point, I'd love to see that. Now...Adelaide Kane, Aubrey Plaza, or Rachel Roth for Raven? Not sure. But after a little googling, it appears Geoff Johns still has plans for the Teen Titans, even with the TNT series being axed. Maybe we get some cameos in the Cyborg movie?
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Post by TheLastDude on May 18, 2016 16:54:13 GMT -5
Ooooh...that's a good point, I'd love to see that. Now...Adelaide Kane, Aubrey Plaza, or Rachel Roth for Raven? Not sure. But after a little googling, it appears Geoff Johns still has plans for the Teen Titans, even with the TNT series being axed. Maybe we get some cameos in the Cyborg movie? That's probably the one thing that would get me to watch that movie, so here's hoping.
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Post by Word™ on May 18, 2016 20:44:52 GMT -5
I'm willing to bet money that Cyborg doesn't get made.. BECAUSE WHO WANTS TO SEE A SOLO CYBORG MOVIE?!... God! I can't be the only wondering why it's not a full-fledged Teen Titans movie, right? Because they don't know what they're doing.. Cyborg will BOMB.. They can barely make $800,000 with Batman AND Superman in the same movie.. How are they going to sell people on a character that I've heard casual movie goers call "Cyclops"?
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Post by IRS on May 18, 2016 21:00:25 GMT -5
I can't be the only wondering why it's not a full-fledged Teen Titans movie, right? Because they don't know what they're doing.. Cyborg will BOMB.. They can barely make $800,000 with Batman AND Superman in the same movie.. How are they going to sell people on a character that I've heard casual movie goers call "Cyclops"? Yup. They have virtually no chance of selling a B-level character. Hell, I don't even give a about The Flash - mainly because there's already a perfect version on TV every week. At least the Titans have some name value behind them.
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Post by marino13 on May 23, 2016 11:28:41 GMT -5
I was watching a video where someone said the best thing the DCEU would be to have Flash travel back to prevent Clark from getting his ship out of the ice in MOS. Because that is what initially helps Zod find Clark. Then Zod would never arrive on Earth. Thousands of lives would be saved. Sups wouldn't have killed Zod. Batman would not have a grudge. No Doomsday. Sups would not die.
After thinking about it for a few days, I think that's a decent idea. May be the best possible way to soft reboot without recasting or officially starting over. Both mediocre films would be wiped away. Sort of like what Fox did with Days of Future Past. Then we can keep the cast but maybe get a more cohesive story for Justice League.
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Post by TheLastDude on May 23, 2016 15:19:10 GMT -5
I was watching a video where someone said the best thing the DCEU would be to have Flash travel back to prevent Clark from getting his ship out of the ice in MOS. Because that is what initially helps Zod find Clark. Then Zod would never arrive on Earth. Thousands of lives would be saved. Sups wouldn't have killed Zod. Batman would not have a grudge. No Doomsday. Sups would not die. After thinking about it for a few days, I think that's a decent idea. May be the best possible way to soft reboot without recasting or officially starting over. Both mediocre films would be wiped away. Sort of like what Fox did with Days of Future Past. Then we can keep the cast but maybe get a more cohesive story for Justice League. That's...actually not a bad idea. As much as I despise giving them a mulligan, that's not a bad way to do it.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 5, 2016 23:46:13 GMT -5
Early reviews/screening of Suicide Squad have been deemed "mind blowing"
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Post by IRS on Jun 6, 2016 0:21:44 GMT -5
Early reviews/screening of Suicide Squad have been deemed "mind blowing" ... wasn't that initially what was said about BvS?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 0:24:06 GMT -5
Early reviews/screening of Suicide Squad have been deemed "mind blowing" ... wasn't that initially what was said about BvS? I think those were more of "How could they this up this bad?!?" level of mind blowing.
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Post by IRS on Jun 6, 2016 0:27:34 GMT -5
... wasn't that initially what was said about BvS? I think those were more of "How could they this up this bad?!?" level of mind blowing. I could've sworn that some of the really early reviews were very positive. Of course, I'll wait 'til I see it to judge, but I have zero faith in DC right now. I'm still not sold on this iteration of Joker, either.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 16, 2016 17:39:09 GMT -5
Early reviews of Tranks Average 4 & B vs S were "the best thing ever" too and it didn't pan out either.
Batman vs Superman had many issues for me.....I will break down what I liked and hated.
1) Eisenbergs Luthor....absolutely dreadful.
2) The introduction of the other heroes.....weak weak sauce.
3) Supermans representation....but I hear the extended cut repairs this.
4) Bruces visions......I liked them but they were dreadfully explained.
5) Everything Bats was great IMHO
6) GG still has a long way to go to convince me as WW. Granted she wasn't as bad as I thought she would be but carrying her own movie is a different animal altogether.
7) The reason for the fight and its conclusion were some of the weakest writing ever. Superman could have grabbed Bats and told him asap what was happening.
basically you could feel the studios hand here and that the movie had basically 2 directors. My hopes for Suicide Squad are a lot higher though.
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 16, 2016 22:59:23 GMT -5
Preface: I saw BvS a week before its premiere and generally thought it was pretty good. With every repeat viewing (and I'm both a loser and a masochist, so I saw it at least eight or nine times in theaters) its huge issues became very apparent. That said, I'm excited for the Ultimate Cut and it's a movie I'll still be able to enjoy despite its flaws.
To me, the biggest problem of BvS is the characterization of them. Batman was a naive, reckless, murderous psychopath (showing that Snyder is capable of reading something as great as TDKR and absolutely whiffing on what makes that book and the Batman character so cool) and Superman was a dull, emo, reluctant hero. And like, even after the disappointment that was Man of Steel, they very easily could have pivoted off of that and made this a really good movie that's true to the two title characters. You make Superman learn from the Black Zero event, both in how important it is to protect/save mankind and that he can never resort to killing, and have Batman be angry that Superman, the most prominent superhero in the world, was negligent while fighting a battle in a crowded city and in killing Zod instead of incapacitating him. This movie should have written itself, yet Snyder's takeaway was "emo Superman is cool, let's go with that, and let's make this Batman a desperate old butthole who kills enemies indiscriminately, that would be totally awesome bro".
Like... I wonder how bad the original script was if a great writer like Chris Terio could only redeem it to this level. I'm optimistic that the Ultimate Cut is going to be a little more palatable, but there are so many problems with this freaking movie. I hope for a high-quality fanedit like we got with MoS.
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 16, 2016 22:59:55 GMT -5
Also, I'm pretty sure Suicide Squad is going to be a better Batman movie than BvS even if he's only in it for five minutes.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 17, 2016 5:59:09 GMT -5
I'm hearing good things about the ultimate cut Batfleck. It makes Superman more of a hero for one I hear.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 11:15:17 GMT -5
I still can't get into the look of Jared Leto's Joker. Hopefully seeing the movie changes my mind.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 20, 2016 6:30:59 GMT -5
I'm a bit of a Joker fanatic and I have a lot less issues with the appearance of Letos Joker in comparison to Ledgers. I think Leto will deliver in spades.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 21, 2016 10:14:21 GMT -5
Excellent news for Justice League....Steppenwolf first and then Dark Seid for part 2. This just reassures me that BvS was more of a rushed deal and they do actually have plans laid out for all this.
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Post by hbkjason on Jun 21, 2016 11:05:58 GMT -5
I am a huge fan of the DC animated movies, if they just made them into live action then I would be very happy I finally got round to watching Justice League vs Teen Titans last night and I must say it was very disappointing. Probably my least favourite of the all the DC animated movies. It was not bad, but I just expected so much more there really was not much of a conflict between the two. Well there was, but not as much as the title, Justice League vs Teen Titans suggests. DC animated movies are not for kids, but a friend of mine who had seen this before me said it was much more kid friendly than other DC animated movies and that it would be fine for my 8 year old son. he loves the Teen Titans and while he enjoys Teen Titans Go, he prefers the more serious older Teen Titans cartoon so I thought this might be good for him...... I was wrong. He was not scared and the violence was not that bad. But there is a part in the movie where Raven tells the others that Trigon is her dad and then Beast Boy pipes up with the "your mom did it with a demon" type of thing and the whole time I was just cringing, praying my son would not ask what doing it meant. Thankfully the scene passed and I avoided that awkward conversation...... for now!
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