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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 23:18:29 GMT -5
I think suicide squad will be another film where bits and bobs will be good but overall the movie will be very unsatisfactory. That's the way I thought about batman vs superman. Some really good bits but also some shocking
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Post by Word™ on Jun 22, 2016 1:44:25 GMT -5
I'm a bit of a Joker fanatic and I have a lot less issues with the appearance of Letos Joker in comparison to Ledgers. I think Leto will deliver in spades. I keep hearing these rumblings that he is not playing the actual Joker.. I don't think there is much stock in the theory, but I would definitely be on board with that being one of the reasons he is covered in identifiable tattoos.. Like if they eventually reveal that it's Jason Todd after he went insane.. That would be better than The Joker being some flashy urban mob boss.. Everything Leto has going on in Suicide Squad is almost the complete opposite of everything The Joker stands for. Excellent news for Justice League....Steppenwolf first and then Dark Seid for part 2. This just reassures me that BvS was more of a rushed deal and they do actually have plans laid out for all this. They had 4 years to do BvS.. They even delayed release to make it better.. I don't think BvS was anything other than bad.. But I guess we'll see with Justice League part 1.. I stand firm in blaming Zack Snyder. Right now I'm curious in Suicide Squad, but I won't rush to see it at all if the reviews aren't anything less than great.. I am looking forward to Aquaman and Wonder Woman though.. And I think Cyborg is a giant waste of time that needs to be scrapped.. totally believe it will BOMB hard.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 22, 2016 9:56:45 GMT -5
I'm very meh on Justice League to be honest......I look forward to Aquaman but WW will bomb badly IMO and I don't know what to make of Flash. The way the other heroes were teased in Bats vs Supes was absolutely atrocious.
I stand by my assertion that Gadot was bad choice for the role of WW. But I cant judge her totally based on B vs S tho....but can anybody see her carrying her own movie? She struggled IMO in Bats vs Supes.
Ive heard all the theories about leto not actually being Joker and I reckon their bull...particularly the one about him being a deranged robin doing a tribute act.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 15:41:39 GMT -5
Are people still saying that Leto isn't the "real" Joker?
People need to let that theory go. Its like they just don't want to believe The Joker has tattoos.
Why is he still obsessed with Harley if he ain't the real deal clown Prince of crime? Why is Harley even with him (as evidenced in the trailers via flashback) if he isn't The Joker. Harley won't settle for an imposter.
Tatted up Joker is here to stay. Now, come August, if I'm proven wrong, I will.....more than likely not do anything about it because sh** happens.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 22, 2016 23:28:19 GMT -5
Are people still saying that Leto isn't the "real" Joker? People need to let that theory go. Its like they just don't want to believe The Joker has tattoos. Why is he still obsessed with Harley if he ain't the real deal clown Prince of crime? Why is Harley even with him (as evidenced in the trailers via flashback) if he isn't The Joker. Harley won't settle for an imposter. Tatted up Joker is here to stay. Now, come August, if I'm proven wrong, I will.....more than likely not do anything about it because sh** happens. I dont believe anyone that actually pays any remote attention to DC Comics thinks Leto isnt real. Its not even the tats that people have a problem with. Its the placement of the tats that seem to drive people crazy. I made a comment on Instagram at how stupid the tats made Leto look as The Joker and some kid told me that this look is the defining comic book Joker look and everything else was just for movies. Now I freely admit Im not a huge comic book reader but Ive damn sure never seen any Joker looking like Leto in any comic. If they would drop the damaged tat on his forehead and the stupid grill for his teeth, his look would actually be pretty bad ass. I'm a bit of a Joker fanatic and I have a lot less issues with the appearance of Letos Joker in comparison to Ledgers. I think Leto will deliver in spades. I keep hearing these rumblings that he is not playing the actual Joker.. I don't think there is much stock in the theory, but I would definitely be on board with that being one of the reasons he is covered in identifiable tattoos.. Like if they eventually reveal that it's Jason Todd after he went insane.. That would be better than The Joker being some flashy urban mob boss.. Everything Leto has going on in Suicide Squad is almost the complete opposite of everything The Joker stands for. Excellent news for Justice League....Steppenwolf first and then Dark Seid for part 2. This just reassures me that BvS was more of a rushed deal and they do actually have plans laid out for all this. They had 4 years to do BvS.. They even delayed release to make it better.. I don't think BvS was anything other than bad.. But I guess we'll see with Justice League part 1.. I stand firm in blaming Zack Snyder. Right now I'm curious in Suicide Squad, but I won't rush to see it at all if the reviews aren't anything less than great.. I am looking forward to Aquaman and Wonder Woman though.. And I think Cyborg is a giant waste of time that needs to be scrapped.. totally believe it will BOMB hard. I meant rushed more as in they stuffed about 2-3 movies worth of crap into 1 movie. Smart writing would have Justice League not coming out for another couple years as they built the franchises. While Im not a huge fan of Marvel, its the one thing they did absolutely right. They built Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Captain America before dropping The Avengers on us.
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Post by JTG on Jun 26, 2016 11:13:36 GMT -5
I watched the Ultimate Edition of BvS last night and was very impressed and yet disappointed that that movie wasn't the one released in theatres. Granted it's three hours, but it adds so much context and exposition to what was going on in that movie. And let's face it, people would have still gone in droves to see Batman v Superman despite a three hour runtime. Definitely give it a watch. It doesn't change the plot or anything, but it fleshes it out and actually makes the movie flow a lot better (editing isn't choppy anymore).
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 26, 2016 11:34:57 GMT -5
I watched the Ultimate Edition of BvS last night and was very impressed and yet disappointed that that movie wasn't the one released in theatres. Granted it's three hours, but it adds so much context and exposition to what was going on in that movie. And let's face it, people would have still gone in droves to see Batman v Superman despite a three hour runtime. Definitely give it a watch. It doesn't change the plot or anything, but it fleshes it out and actually makes the movie flow a lot better (editing isn't choppy anymore). I agree, though FWIW the version floating around online isn't great quality.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 12:26:12 GMT -5
I wish they would do like Marvel and have all of their shows connected. Would make for a much more enjoyable experience, imo. Seeing Amell and Gustin with Affleck & Cavill would have been something
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 26, 2016 12:36:29 GMT -5
I wish they would do like Marvel and have all of their shows connected. Would make for a much more enjoyable experience, imo. Seeing Amell and Gustin with Affleck & Cavill would have been something You cant say that...You're gonna bring Ezra Miller fan boys out of the wood work now who are going to rant and rave, bash you and call you an idiot and a moron. (But I do agree)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 13:23:00 GMT -5
I wish they would do like Marvel and have all of their shows connected. Would make for a much more enjoyable experience, imo. Seeing Amell and Gustin with Affleck & Cavill would have been something You cant say that...You're gonna bring Ezra Miller fan boys out of the wood work now who are going to rant and rave, bash you and call you an idiot and a moron. (But I do agree) I don't even have a clue who Ezra Miller is, so it's not me bashing me him or anything haha I'd just prefer to keep characters I already know the backstory of, rather than them building a brand new story for the same character with a different actor.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 26, 2016 13:40:06 GMT -5
You cant say that...You're gonna bring Ezra Miller fan boys out of the wood work now who are going to rant and rave, bash you and call you an idiot and a moron. (But I do agree) I don't even have a clue who Ezra Miller is, so it's not me bashing me him or anything haha I'd just prefer to keep characters I already know the backstory of, rather than them building a brand new story for the same character with a different actor. I didnt know who he was until he was cast as Flash...I looked up a couple of his movies and tried to watch them but I just couldnt. I didnt like him as an actor and I just cannot see him as the Flash. Which reminds me of this meme I came across on IG...
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 26, 2016 17:03:47 GMT -5
BVS was a hot mess. Like another poster said, they had 4 years to put it together and it was crap. Affleck was the only interesting part to me and even he was hindered by the terrible writing of the character.
SS looks to be an even bigger hot mess. Smith is simply playing himself and not Deadshot, and I still cannot get past Leto's look. His appearance and descriptions of his version seem to go against everything the character stands for. I was ecstatic when they announced him as Joker, but after seeing the footage and his look I just can't get behind it. And when he's constantly saying that Nicholson and Ledger would approve of his portrayal in interviews, it seems more like DC pr work than anything else.
As for the rest of the DCCU, I have no interest in seeing them except for the solo Affleck film (since he is writing and directing it). I'm not sold on Gadot as WW. Miller as Flash is another WTF casting and Snyder recently saying his suit will have 148 pieces makes me think they're giving him a mechanical, transformers look. And Cyborg is the most overrated character in DC.
It's amazing that we're in an age where Antman and Black Panther are bigger cinematic draws than Superman, WW, and Flash. WB is crap.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jun 26, 2016 17:49:14 GMT -5
I wish they would do like Marvel and have all of their shows connected. Would make for a much more enjoyable experience, imo. Seeing Amell and Gustin with Affleck & Cavill would have been something It all ties in to why DC is MILES behind Marvel when it comes to their visual universe. The Multiverse angle is their free play card to do whatever they want. They can recast every time there's a new show or movie and they can just say "MULTIVERSE BITCHES!" and we can't do all about it...except choose to stay home and not watch the mess they put out. They have zero idea what they're doing. They don't have the patience to put the time in and correctly flesh out their worlds. They want to get where Marvel is RIGHT NOW in ONE movie and they're pissed because it didn't work out the way they thought it should. and I still cannot get past Leto's look. His appearance and descriptions of his version seem to go against everything the character stands for. I was ecstatic when they announced him as Joker, but after seeing the footage and his look I just can't get behind it. And when he's constantly saying that Nicholson and Ledger would approve of his portrayal in interviews, it seems more like DC pr work than anything else. I've thought about this and come to this conclusion. Leto is all right in my book. I was against it in the beginning too, but them I started looking at all the DC movies and shows and I watched Romero and Jack...I listened to Mark Hamill...and then I marveled at Ledger...and then I realized that even though all these men were playing the same character, they were all playing him in very different ways...yet they all worked. So, I'm willing to give Jared Leto a shot. His Joker is going to be different from all the other Jokers...and that's ok.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jun 26, 2016 18:31:17 GMT -5
Anybody know how much the digital purchase is and where you can buy it? Is it something I can order through my PS4 or do I need to go to a store to buy it?
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 26, 2016 18:49:41 GMT -5
I wish they would do like Marvel and have all of their shows connected. Would make for a much more enjoyable experience, imo. Seeing Amell and Gustin with Affleck & Cavill would have been something It all ties in to why DC is MILES behind Marvel when it comes to their visual universe. The Multiverse angle is their free play card to do whatever they want. They can recast every time there's a new show or movie and they can just say "MULTIVERSE BITCHES!" and we can't do all about it...except choose to stay home and not watch the mess they put out. They have zero idea what they're doing. They don't have the patience to put the time in and correctly flesh out their worlds. They want to get where Marvel is RIGHT NOW in ONE movie and they're pissed because it didn't work out the way they thought it should. and I still cannot get past Leto's look. His appearance and descriptions of his version seem to go against everything the character stands for. I was ecstatic when they announced him as Joker, but after seeing the footage and his look I just can't get behind it. And when he's constantly saying that Nicholson and Ledger would approve of his portrayal in interviews, it seems more like DC pr work than anything else. I've thought about this and come to this conclusion. Leto is all right in my book. I was against it in the beginning too, but them I started looking at all the DC movies and shows and I watched Romero and Jack...I listened to Mark Hamill...and then I marveled at Ledger...and then I realized that even though all these men were playing the same character, they were all playing him in very different ways...yet they all worked. So, I'm willing to give Jared Leto a shot. His Joker is going to be different from all the other Jokers...and that's ok. I'm all for actors doing their own thing, and I love Leto, but my fear is WB and producers meddling with his portrayal to make it something they want (like a semi-Ledger rip off) instead of letting Leto completely create his version.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jun 26, 2016 20:10:15 GMT -5
It all ties in to why DC is MILES behind Marvel when it comes to their visual universe. The Multiverse angle is their free play card to do whatever they want. They can recast every time there's a new show or movie and they can just say "MULTIVERSE BITCHES!" and we can't do all about it...except choose to stay home and not watch the mess they put out. They have zero idea what they're doing. They don't have the patience to put the time in and correctly flesh out their worlds. They want to get where Marvel is RIGHT NOW in ONE movie and they're pissed because it didn't work out the way they thought it should. I've thought about this and come to this conclusion. Leto is all right in my book. I was against it in the beginning too, but them I started looking at all the DC movies and shows and I watched Romero and Jack...I listened to Mark Hamill...and then I marveled at Ledger...and then I realized that even though all these men were playing the same character, they were all playing him in very different ways...yet they all worked. So, I'm willing to give Jared Leto a shot. His Joker is going to be different from all the other Jokers...and that's ok. I'm all for actors doing their own thing, and I love Leto, but my fear is WB and producers meddling with his portrayal to make it something they want (like a semi-Ledger rip off) instead of letting Leto completely create his version. I get you, and that's not an invalid worry when you consider what has already been done, but I think they're smart enough to let Leto do his thing. If anyone in the cast has earned it, it's that guy. He's shown when you let him do his stuff, you're probably going to get something memorable.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 27, 2016 5:54:40 GMT -5
Wouldn't the introduction of the heroes have been much better if they did something like this:
There is small scene where Batman finds a mother box in the aftermath of the battle and he is horrified to recognise it from his vision/dream.....he relays his fears to WW after the funeral when they are talking and says they need to "organise" because something worse may be on the horizon. They both say they know of people they could approach and they part ways.
Cue to Flash zipping down an alleyway and letting himself in through the back door of his apartment when he turns around to see Batman skulking on a fire escape. He says "how did you know about me" and he simple replies "that's what I do" with a wicked smirk.
we then cut to see WW standing on the rocks of a beach in her full WW garb with Amazonian cloak. The sea gets unsettled and Aquaman rises slowly from the ocean as he strides onto the beach. He plants the trident in the rocks aggressively and tells Diana " I told you never to contact me again" he turns to leave but she grabs him and begs him to listen saying that "something terrible is coming our way and we need you Arthur" and that she would never have broken her word to contact him if she wasn't genuinely worried.... he simply replies "I'm listening"
I don't care about Cyborg so I couldn't come up with anything meaningful for his intro.
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Post by Word™ on Jun 28, 2016 0:56:42 GMT -5
Wouldn't the introduction of the heroes have been much better if they did something like this: There is small scene where Batman finds a mother box in the aftermath of the battle and he is horrified to recognise it from his vision/dream.....he relays his fears to WW after the funeral when they are talking and says they need to "organise" because something worse may be on the horizon. They both say they know of people they could approach and they part ways. Cue to Flash zipping down an alleyway and letting himself in through the back door of his apartment when he turns around to see Batman skulking on a fire escape. He says "how did you know about me" and he simple replies "that's what I do" with a wicked smirk. we then cut to see WW standing on the rocks of a beach in her full WW garb with Amazonian cloak. The sea gets unsettled and Aquaman rises slowly from the ocean as he strides onto the beach. He plants the trident in the rocks aggressively and tells Diana " I told you never to contact me again" he turns to leave but she grabs him and begs him to listen saying that "something terrible is coming our way and we need you Arthur" and that she would never have broken her word to contact him if she wasn't genuinely worried.... he simply replies "I'm listening" I don't care about Cyborg so I couldn't come up with anything meaningful for his intro. Much better.. I honestly don't know who approved of the JL introduction.. Might be the laziest piece of shoe horning I've ever seen in a film.. Them going to different locations gathering the intell and or literally anything other than stumbling upon a folder on a hard drive.. "oh I stumbled upon such a thing".
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Post by IRS on Jun 28, 2016 4:00:26 GMT -5
Concept art for Justice League: I'm really not digging that Flash.
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 28, 2016 4:47:25 GMT -5
Concept art for Justice League: I'm really not digging that Flash. I don't really mind Flash but I really don't like the version of barry Allen their seemingly going with based on the cctv footage from BvS.
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