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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 15:29:34 GMT -5
'Feels like I'm wearing nothing at all...nothing at all...nothing at all...' Is... is that Tina Yothers in the background? Excellent focus there mate!
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Post by el torro on Aug 2, 2016 18:15:37 GMT -5
DC fans started a petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes. Crazy
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 2, 2016 18:22:00 GMT -5
DC fans started a petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes. Crazy As a huge DC fan and pragmatic DCEU apologist, I have to say that is extremely childish and embarrassing.
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Post by Word™ on Aug 2, 2016 22:03:01 GMT -5
DC fans started a petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes. Crazy As a huge DC fan and pragmatic DCEU apologist, I have to say that is extremely childish and embarrassing. If I was a huge lifelong fan of everything DC and they continued to release terrible movies, I'd be pretty upset too.. There is NO reason WB should still be making the same mistakes over and over again.
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 2, 2016 23:22:47 GMT -5
As a huge DC fan and pragmatic DCEU apologist, I have to say that is extremely childish and embarrassing. If I was a huge lifelong fan of everything DC and they continued to release terrible movies, I'd be pretty upset too.. There is NO reason WB should still be making the same mistakes over and over again. To be fair, they didn't really have a lot of time to make quality adjustments to Suicide Squad in the wake of the BVS criticism without delaying the movie. As easy as it is to be critical of Man of Steel three years later, it got a mixed response, not an overwhelmingly negative one. Now, if Wonder Woman AND Justice League are bad..... Well, that probably still isn't enough to scare me away but my enthusiasm would wake considerably for anything that isn't solo Batfleck movies (which I still expect to be great in spite of everything else).
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Post by Word™ on Aug 3, 2016 0:01:32 GMT -5
If I was a huge lifelong fan of everything DC and they continued to release terrible movies, I'd be pretty upset too.. There is NO reason WB should still be making the same mistakes over and over again. To be fair, they didn't really have a lot of time to make quality adjustments to Suicide Squad in the wake of the BVS criticism without delaying the movie. As easy as it is to be critical of Man of Steel three years later, it got a mixed response, not an overwhelmingly negative one. Now, if Wonder Woman AND Justice League are bad..... Well, that probably still isn't enough to scare me away but my enthusiasm would wake considerably for anything that isn't solo Batfleck movies (which I still expect to be great in spite of everything else). Hey man, you like what you like.. When I was a kid I LOVED Mortal Kombat: Annihilation.. It was terrible.. But I didn't have any other option of Mortal Kombat cinema fun, so I burned out watching that flick over and over again. I am let down right now.. I've secretly wanted Suicide Squad to be really good to the point of forcing me to go see it opening weekend.. But I'm not gonna ignore the critics on this one like I did with BvS. I'm listening to what critics are saying and I'm going to wait for a dollar showing or a matinee of some kind weeks down the line.. WB can't make a killing every time they release mediocre movies just because they have a franchise. WB is making a fortune right now and stuffing their pockets full of money, but they are also slowly running DC into the ground. And it will take them a decade or longer to rebuild again. And by then comic book movies probably won't be as profitable. I can't imagine what happens if Wonder Woman AND Justice League get destroyed like this. They are truly wasting Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill, my honest opinion.. They deserve better than what they're getting out of the DCEU right now.. Henry Cavill is a charismatic actor, they've turned him into a depressed mute.. Ben Affleck packs so much of a punch he could literally write and direct an entire trilogy of Batman's and get Oscar consideration.. WB is really irritating me with their handling of everything so far.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 8:03:11 GMT -5
From what I've heard, suicide squad is really bad. Welp. It looks like I'm not going to go see it. I'll wait for the inevitable director's cut on blu ray.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 3, 2016 8:07:43 GMT -5
DC fans started a petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes. Crazy As a huge DC fan and pragmatic DCEU apologist, I have to say that is extremely childish and embarrassing. It sure is...... my entire life I have been a 50/50 fan of DC & Marvel.....any time it swang 60/40? It was in DC's favour. But on other sites, facebook etc the reaction of DC fans is absolutely incredible to me........it really is. I thought the nonsense conspiracy about Disney/Marvel was over the top but what's being said now beats that hands down. You are literally NOT ALLOWED be a fan of both......people that are? generally branded as not real comic book fans because apparently its impossible to like both.........Ive been reading through stuff all morning and quite frankly it has the potential to put me off DC movies altogether. Unreal. It reminds me of 2008 on this very forum.....If you dared say anything bad about TDK you were called every name under the sun without a hint of defence from Mods or Admins. The Nolan movies created this sh*tehawk type of a fan and they haven't gone away.....they have become crazed anti Marvel fanatics. Apparently you are also mentally challenged(to put it mildly & mannerly) if you enjoy ANY Marvel movie The Joker is my favourite Comic book villain and cracks my top 5 characters easily. Batman is my favourite Superhero hands down. The sheer amount of Bat trades I have compared to any other character/team confirms that 100%. But if WB have made a mess of S.Squad? I will truly despair. Ayer is a great director IMHO(Fury is one of my fave movies) but going back to the Hardy/Smith debacle I have sensed studio interference here.......I hope it hasn't wrecked this movie which has been my 2nd most anticipated after Cap III all year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 8:16:34 GMT -5
From what I've heard, suicide squad is really bad. Welp. It looks like I'm not going to go see it. I'll wait for the inevitable director's cut on blu ray. I think Ayer stated there won't be one. Idk man...I like to reserve judgment until I see something myself. Besides, the conspiracy nut in me wants to believe that Disney is hiring these critics lol. Maybe it's because we've been conditioned to want to see the upbeat Marvel tones in DC films. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed the extended cut of BvS. Yeah it's still rough around the edges but it was still a fun movie for me. I'm still pumped for SS. If it isn't good, then oh well. Its not like The Incredible Hulk and the Thor movies were good but people think they are. There's gonna be trial and error with DC. And I think it's the impatience of the studio and the fans that are trying way too hard to make these films be as good if not better than Marvel. Also, I feel like there are no real consequences to the Marvel films not named Captain America: Winter Soldier. At least DC is stepping up the game in that department, Fan backlash due to MoS notwithstanding lol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 8:53:10 GMT -5
From what I've heard, suicide squad is really bad. Welp. It looks like I'm not going to go see it. I'll wait for the inevitable director's cut on blu ray. I think Ayer stated there won't be one. Idk man...I like to reserve judgment until I see something myself. Besides, the conspiracy nut in me wants to believe that Disney is hiring these critics lol. Maybe it's because we've been conditioned to want to see the upbeat Marvel tones in DC films. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed the extended cut of BvS. Yeah it's still rough around the edges but it was still a fun movie for me. I'm still pumped for SS. If it isn't good, then oh well. Its not like The Incredible Hulk and the Thor movies were good but people think they are. There's gonna be trial and error with DC. And I think it's the impatience of the studio and the fans that are trying way too hard to make these films be as good if not better than Marvel. Also, I feel like there are no real consequences to the Marvel films not named Captain America: Winter Soldier. At least DC is stepping up the game in that department, Fan backlash due to MoS notwithstanding lol. Yeah I enjoyed the extended cut of BVS too. I gave the original a 5/10 and the extended a 7/10. But I've seen a movie review of Suicide Squad by YouTube film critic Chris Stuckmann, and he gave it a C. I saw another movie review of suicide squad by another YouTube critic named Jeremy Jahns and he said it was really good. So idk.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 3, 2016 9:18:20 GMT -5
From what I've heard, suicide squad is really bad. Welp. It looks like I'm not going to go see it. I'll wait for the inevitable director's cut on blu ray. I think Ayer stated there won't be one. Idk man...I like to reserve judgment until I see something myself. . . Yeah I remember him saying that too. I also like to reserve judgement until I see something myself. Its just the way I am......If everyone is raving about something? I tend to get a bit more excited. Whereas if everybody slating something or opinion if sharply divided? I tend to be a bit more reserved and lower my expectations. My expectations for BvS for instance were low as hell......because of that I found a lot to like in it. But even then it couldn't hide its whopping flaws.....main one being the introduction method of the other heroes......good grief.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 9:21:41 GMT -5
I think Ayer stated there won't be one. Idk man...I like to reserve judgment until I see something myself. . . Yeah I remember him saying that too. I also like to reserve judgement until I see something myself. Its just the way I am......If everyone is raving about something? I tend to get a bit more excited. Whereas if everybody slating something or opinion if sharply divided? I tend to be a bit more reserved and lower my expectations. My expectations for BvS for instance were low as hell......because of that I found a lot to like in it. But even then it couldn't hide its whopping flaws.....main one being the introduction method of the other heroes......good grief. Hey you have to admire the time that Lex took out to create the logos for all of the found footage of Cyborg, Aquaman, Flash, and Wonder Woman. So there's that lol.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 3, 2016 9:23:25 GMT -5
Yeah I remember him saying that too. I also like to reserve judgement until I see something myself. Its just the way I am......If everyone is raving about something? I tend to get a bit more excited. Whereas if everybody slating something or opinion if sharply divided? I tend to be a bit more reserved and lower my expectations. My expectations for BvS for instance were low as hell......because of that I found a lot to like in it. But even then it couldn't hide its whopping flaws.....main one being the introduction method of the other heroes......good grief. Hey you have to admire the time that Lex took out to create the logos for all of the found footage of Cyborg, Aquaman, Flash, and Wonder Woman. So there's that lol. Oh man I had forgotten the logos...LOL. Damn the DCEU Lex is one creative cat!!
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 3, 2016 10:16:56 GMT -5
DC fans started a petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes. Crazy Do that many people not really understand how Rotten Tomatoes works? Their site is a compilation of critic and user reviews... it's not like someone from RT is putting out these bad reviews and people are just taking them as gospel. This is probably one of the dumber things I've heard in recent months, and I've heard some doozies with this election season. I can understand being frustrated with their top 25 and viewing the flaws in the credibility of that group but you can't get mad at the messenger haha. I am incredibly disappointed to hear about SS though. I thought Leto and Robbie as a pairing were going to be enough to carry this film, at least into something bigger like the solo Bats film. Seems like most people were really disappointed with both. I kind of don't care though. My better judgement says I agreed with how abysmal BvS was and I saw that twice just to make sure. Then I sat through the UE, proving I may be a masochist. But still, in keeping with that theme, I need to see this for myself. I was going to make it a priority this weekend but it doesn't seem quite as important now.
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Post by JokerFC on Aug 3, 2016 13:31:22 GMT -5
well as I said above Quint & Capone from AICN are usually good barometers for me and Quint has just reviewed it. I will say before I go into it that the 2 guys were 100% on point from my own POV with everything that hit & missed in BvS.
Now there's NO spoilers so read on in comfort.
Margot Robbie steals the show as Harley. She's given a lot to work with. Ditto for Smiths Deadshot.
Jai Courtney is the most charismatic he has been as Boomerang.
The editing is choppy and incoherent and he would like to hear Ayers thought process on why certain decisions were made. He suspects the studios hand or as he puts it a "mid road diversion".
lots of things that make ZERO sense and lots of things to like.......but overall it a very mixed bag. neither good nor bad.......just kinda in the middle and a chronically missed opportunity with the cast.
now his opinions on the characters........some may consider this SPOILERS. I don't because he doesn't ruin anything.....but just in case.
ok you've been warned.
Joker is hardly in it we've seen 80% of his role in the trailers.
Ditto for Katana & Slipknot.
Croc is a background guy for most of it.
Enchantress as she evolves makes less sense and because of it the finale is poor.
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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 3, 2016 15:02:56 GMT -5
To be fair, they didn't really have a lot of time to make quality adjustments to Suicide Squad in the wake of the BVS criticism without delaying the movie. As easy as it is to be critical of Man of Steel three years later, it got a mixed response, not an overwhelmingly negative one. Now, if Wonder Woman AND Justice League are bad..... Well, that probably still isn't enough to scare me away but my enthusiasm would wake considerably for anything that isn't solo Batfleck movies (which I still expect to be great in spite of everything else). Hey man, you like what you like.. When I was a kid I LOVED Mortal Kombat: Annihilation.. It was terrible.. But I didn't have any other option of Mortal Kombat cinema fun, so I burned out watching that flick over and over again. I am let down right now.. I've secretly wanted Suicide Squad to be really good to the point of forcing me to go see it opening weekend.. But I'm not gonna ignore the critics on this one like I did with BvS. I'm listening to what critics are saying and I'm going to wait for a dollar showing or a matinee of some kind weeks down the line.. WB can't make a killing every time they release mediocre movies just because they have a franchise. WB is making a fortune right now and stuffing their pockets full of money, but they are also slowly running DC into the ground. And it will take them a decade or longer to rebuild again. And by then comic book movies probably won't be as profitable. I can't imagine what happens if Wonder Woman AND Justice League get destroyed like this. They are truly wasting Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill, my honest opinion.. They deserve better than what they're getting out of the DCEU right now.. Henry Cavill is a charismatic actor, they've turned him into a depressed mute.. Ben Affleck packs so much of a punch he could literally write and direct an entire trilogy of Batman's and get Oscar consideration.. WB is really irritating me with their handling of everything so far. This. Very much this. And it's all because they have absolutely no ing patience. Superman should have started as the smiling big blue boy scout in his debut. Then it would make sense for him to become a little darker and less prone to smiling and speaking as he matured and realized there is a lot of bad crapout there. I think they wasted that opportunity by having him kill Zod in the first movie. It would have had a MUCH greater impact if that was the impetus for his character maturation...but after a movie or two...not right off the bat. Zero... ing...patience. This isn't that hard. Well first off...fire Snyder. I'm sorry, the dude has proven that he can't handle it when it comes to crunch time. This is a slash and burn scenario. Start the over. As much as I hate it and it pains me to say it: use Flash and the speed force as a mulligan to reboot the universe and give us what we should have gotten from the start.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Aug 3, 2016 15:08:32 GMT -5
Trying to print my passes for the advanced screening tonight at the library, same woman has been hogging the printer/photocopier for half an hour now lol. FML
From what I'm hearing I'll probably be pretty meh on this film, but I'm giving it a chance. Review up late tonight or tomorrow morning.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 3, 2016 18:12:16 GMT -5
DC fans started a petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes. Crazy Like that will stop Rotten Tomatoes
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 3, 2016 18:18:05 GMT -5
Trying to print my passes for the advanced screening tonight at the library, same woman has been hogging the printer/photocopier for half an hour now lol. FML From what I'm hearing I'll probably be pretty meh on this film, but I'm giving it a chance. Review up late tonight or tomorrow morning. From what I'm hearing, this is going to be the 2nd straight DCEU movie that gets absolutely bludgeoned in the editing room at the behest of WB. BVS is a bad movie no matter how you slice it, but the Ultimate Edition/Director's Cut is a better and much more complete story. Sounds like we might have to wait for Blu-Ray for Suicide Squad too. Though FWIW I still think I'm going to like it, especially now since I'll go in with pretty low expectations.
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Post by Word™ on Aug 3, 2016 21:30:34 GMT -5
It's called the DC Extended Universe because of all these extended editions..
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